Mahathir sacked

[Nice-Gook]

a lot of arm chair critics here ,throwing tons of articles avilable in the net to substantiate their take

but how many here had lived in the ground zero ? I have

not in many in malusia themselves know the grounds of malusia..those living in w malusia ,say Penang or Malacca ,seldom know how in the East , like kelantan or trengganu , lives... ,and almost all peninsula malaysian donch noe how those in sabah and sarawak lives ...I have and my perspective differes

i had driven from Kuching in sarawak all the way to Sandakan Sabah ,many a times ...knew the terrain and knew the various tribes and it's people too ...had fratenised with villagers whether orang asli in Gua Musang or dayaks in borneo

the politics in malusia is fraught with racial and religious tensions ....much more than it was in the 70s ...and while the peninsula malusia is leaning towards islamistaion the East malaysia ,the sabah and sarawak, is mostly Christian..know that first

and this racial and religious tensions mostly came about particularly in peninsular malaysia simply because of the chinks ,unlike in East Malaysia ,where you will find a Buddhist chinese family with christians and Muslims in the same house ...but that never is and never will be in peninsular malaysia

for a simple reason ,it's the chinks who took up arms against malusia as communists ,who rejected malusia even as an independent nation from the colonists ...than it was and is DAP ,it's a party founded by Devan Nair ,as in Mahathirs words a Trojan horse left by the PAP ..the chinks were not entirely left out of malusia politics either , as they had Malaysian Chinese Party and Gerakan within the ruling BN...so ,DAP as an opposition relied entirely on riling chinks communal and religious tensions in malusia ..it's this DAP that seems to be the culprit of the horrid May 13 in the 60s when chinese were slaughtered

now ,what does the melayu wants ?..in reality they do want the Chinese and Indians to stay ,yes ! indeed ..but the m&ds don't want the chinks to interfere in their religion and politics ...

not long ago ,DAP the chinks racist party , and PAS ,the m&d extremist religious party entered into a pact as one ..Yes ,they did ..at that time DAP almost kenna deregistered..but between Anwar's PKR party and PAS ,..the DAP chose PAS if a deregistration takes place ...but than Lim Kit Siang ,the DAP supremo took the opportunity to enter PAS territory and cause a split within PAS ...this is the fucking DAP..today PAS split into 2 ,PAS and Amanah

so,that sums up malusia politics ... the chinks in malusials simply don't know how to play politics ..in that respect the m&ds had come very well indeed

you see ,Mahathir had been on the receiving side when he stepped down ,...Badawi and Najib didn't like Mahathir one bit but did they do a LKY on Mahathir ? hell noooo,in Sinkie if you stand against LKY you and your entire life and family would be kaput ,just as Chia Thye Poh or JBJ or even Chee found out ...but not in malusia ...even today Najib despite being the global kleopocrat still has his billions and despite Anwar being imprisoned by Mahathir is not a bitter man ...that is melayu psyche and malusial pokitics

something that malusial chinks fail to understand despite living in malusia for decades

 

[syed putra]

Mahathir has already got a good legacy; he is now trying to put the country back on track after the Najib plundering. Mujahiddin has always been a lapdog; he is still a lapdog. His tenure as PM will be short-lived; his legacy will be the shortest PM on record and an UMNO lapdog till death.

Dr m legacy will be determined after his death.
He abused affirmative action which indirectly discriminated others. Data gathered will determine if his policies indeed worked or it was merely due to luck as oil and gas buffered and masked the country from actual damage on the ground.
Blacks in the US had better employment opportunities before minimum wage, workers severance if sacked and equal pay were enforced.
Had Dr m not applied NEP or affirmt8ve policies, who knows where the economy would be by now.currently it is so dependent on oil and gas. Its tax receipt is barely enough to vover civil service operations. Nothing left for development. Dr m used oil and gas income to destroy tax paying private businesses by creating national cars, banks, steel mills. Most failed.
This is similar to what Sweden experienced in the 1970's. They abandoned socialism and the economy boomed ft9m then onwards.
A economy that is totally dependent on oil and gas is termed as the " Dutch disease".

Muhyiddin's background is very murky.scandals of land grabs when he was johore MB. As a federal minister in gahmen, he used contracts to get support from umno members to get vice president post. NFC, national feedlot centre given to husband of umno wanita chief being a good example. Then there is the 4G towers as education minister he gave to ytl to erect in most schools in rural areas for web based teaching.until today, that system is unused.

So to sum up, both are useless.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Dr m legacy will be determined after his death.
He abused affirmative action which indirectly discriminated others. Data gathered will determine if his policies indeed worked or it was merely due to luck as oil and gas buffered and masked the country from actual damage on the ground.
Blacks in the US had better employment opportunities before minimum wage, workers severance if sacked and equal pay were enforced.
Had Dr m not applied NEP or affirmt8ve policies, who knows where the economy would be by now.currently it is so dependent on oil and gas. Its tax receipt is barely enough to vover civil service operations. Nothing left for development. Dr m used oil and gas income to destroy tax paying private businesses by creating national cars, banks, steel mills. Most failed.
This is similar to what Sweden experienced in the 1970's. They abandoned socialism and the economy boomed ft9m then onwards.
A economy that is totally dependent on oil and gas is termed as the " Dutch disease".

Muhyiddin's background is very murky.scandals of land grabs when he was johore MB. As a federal minister in gahmen, he used contracts to get support from umno members to get vice president post. NFC, national feedlot centre given to husband of umno wanita chief being a good example. Then there is the 4G towers as education minister he gave to ytl to erect in most schools in rural areas for web based teaching.until today, that system is unused.

So to sum up, both are useless.

are all those so called know how you thus talk arrived out of your exposure or experience ? ...or just swiped from some malusia portals ? just because some malusials say you arso say one mah?

 

[syed putra]

a lot of arm chair critics here ,throwing tons of articles avilable in the net to substantiate their take

but how many here had lived in the ground zero ? I have

not in many in malusia themselves know the grounds of malusia..those living in w malusia ,say Penang or Malacca ,seldom know how in the East , like kelantan or trengganu lives ,and almost all peninsula malaysian donch now how those in sabah and sarawak lives ...I have and my perspective differes

i had driven from Kuching in sarawak all the way to Sandakan ,Sabah many a times ...knew the terrain ,knew the various tribes and it's people too ...had fratenised with villagers whether orang asli in Gua Musang or dayaks in borneo

the politics in malusia is fraught with racial and religious tensions ....much more than it was in the 70s ...and while the peninsula malusia is leaning towards islamistaion the East malaysia ,the sabah and sarawak is mostly Christian..know that first

and this racial and religious tensions mostly came about particularly in paeninsular malaysia simply because of the chinks ,unlike in East Malaysia where ,you will find a Buddhist chinese family with christians and Muslims in the same house ...but that never is and never will be in paeninsular malaysia

for a simple reason ,it's the chinks who took up arms against malusia as communists ,who rejected malusia even as an independent nation from the colonists ...than it was and is DAP ,it's a party founded by Devan Nair ,as in Mahathirs words a Trojan horse by left by the PAP ..the chinks were not entirely left out of malusia politics either as they had Malaysian Chinese Party and Gerakan within the ruling BN...so ,DAP as an opposition relied entirely on riling chinks communal and religious tensions in malusia ..it's this DAP ,that seems to be the culprit of the horrid May 13 in the 60s when chinese were slaughtered

now ,what does the melayu wants ?..in reality they do want the Chinese and Indians to stay ,yes indeed ..but the m&ds don't want the chinks to interfere in their religion and politics ...

not long ago ,DAP ,the chinks racist party and PAS ,the m&d extremist religious party entered into a pact as one ..Yes ,they did ..at the time DAP almost kenna deregistered..but between Anwars PKR party and PAS ,..the DAP chose PAS if a deregistration takes place ...but than Lim Kit Siang ,the DAP supremo took the opportunity to enter PAS territory and cause a split within PAS ...this is the fucking DAP..today PAS splot into 2 ,PAS and Amanah

so,that sums up malusia politics ... the chinks in malusials simply don't know how to play politics ..in that respect the m&ds had come very well indeed

you see ,Mahathir had been on the receiving side when he stepped down ,...Badawi and Najib didn't like Mahathir one bit but did they do a LKY on Mahathir ? he'll noooo,in Sinkie if you stand against LKY you and your entire life and family would be kaput ,just as Chia Thye Poh or JBJ or even Chee found out ...but not in malusia ...even today Najib despite being the global kleopocrat still has his billions and despite Anwar being imprisoned by Mahathir is not a bitter man ...that is melayu psyche and malusial pokitics

something that malusial chinks fail to understand despite living in malusia for decades

DAP can never get the support of the Malays until they can get one leader who is capable of speaking Malay like the Malays. When they speak bahasa, to Malays, it's like a foreigner speaking.
Those of indian descent got successful because they can do this.
There were chinese DAP members who can speak very good bahasa but most got kicked out by the party either because they oppose party policies or were a threat to it's leadership.DAP is not really democratic despite its name.
Here is one DAP guy who can speak Malay but got kicked out because of being too Malay.
Dr tan seng gaw.

 

[Nice-Gook]

DAP can never get the support of the Malays until they can get one leader who is capable of speaking Malay like the Malays. When they speak bahasa, to Malays, it's like a foreigner speaking.
Those of indian descent got successful because they can do this.
There were chinese DAP members who can speak very good bahasa but most got kicked out by the party either because they oppose party policies or were a threat to it's leadership.DAP is not really democratic despite its name.
Here is one DAP guy who can speak Malay but got kicked out because of being too Malay.
Dr tan seng gaw.

helooo,you are embaraasing yourself as a fucken arm chair critic again and again ...DAP people cannot speak melayu ? ...are you kidding ? ..just Google youtube and see yourself lah ,twit

both father and son Lims, the DAP supremos are excellent malay speakers lah ...they are pernakan lah ,idiot ....in fact ,DAP in their party meetings speak Bahasa unlike Malaysian Chinese Congress ,which uses Mandarin ,know that first

about bahasa ,the chink malusials at large struggle with bahasa even if it's a must subject in school ...there are chinese folks in malusia who hardly know a word or two in bahasa ...but that is never never an issue except dealing with officialdom

 

[syed putra]

Lim kit siang peranakan? But does not behave like one.
Tan siew sin was a peranakan. Malaysia first finance minister. Malacca birn and bred. But I have no idea if he can speak Malay or not.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Lim kit siang peranakan? But does not behave like one.
Tan siew sin was a peranakan. Malaysia first finance minister. Malacca birn and bred. But I have no idea if he can speak Malay or not.

hey fuckwit ,you don't even know that har? the Lims are from malacca not Penang lah ..

 

[Nice-Gook]

Lim kit siang peranakan? But does not behave like one.
Tan siew sin was a peranakan. Malaysia first finance minister. Malacca birn and bred. But I have no idea if he can speak Malay or not.

no idea can speak malay or not ? ...are you an idiot ? ...than speak what in malusial parliament?

everyone in my generation speak pasar malay its the lingo you must know

 

[syed putra]

no idea can speak malay or not ? ...are you an idiot ? ...than speak what in malusial parliament?

everyone in my generation speak pasar malay its the lingo you must know

Don't they use a translator headphones like in the U.N. in malaysia parliament? Can speak in hokkien, mandarin, cantinese, foo chow, hakka and everything translated into malay.

 

[yinyang]

...the Lims are from malacca not Penang lah ..

Old man LKS (and his son LGE later) had political roots from Malacca, from May 1969 riots.
And also eloquent in bahasa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Kit_Siang

You have a good insight of political landscape.
Even with political shenanigans ongoing now

 

[JohnTan]

Mad hatter unsacks himself. Says Moomoodin will be sacked instead!

KUALA LUMPUR — Dr Mahathir Mohamad claims that he is still the Bersatu chairman and plans to bring a motion to sack Mr Muhyiddin Yassin at a party meeting in the near future.

“We want to sack him but we have to call for a supreme council meeting,” he said during a press conference at the party’s headquarters in Petaling Jaya on Friday (May 29) afternoon.

“However, he cannot meet anyone now as he is in quarantine after coming into contact with a Covid-19 patient at a meeting.”

Dr Mahathir said Mr Muhyiddin has done several “wrong things” in the party, including appointing and ordering several party members to exceed their powers, namely organising secretary Muhammad Suhaimi Yahya, and appointing Mr Hamzah Zainudin as the party secretary general.


“There is no organising secretary post and he has no powers whatsoever, only arranging the tables.

“The secretary-general of the party is still Marzuki Yahya and Muhyiddin was supposed to discuss matters with me but never did,” he alleged. MALAY MAIL

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/world/i...on-sack-muhyiddin-next-party-meeting-mahathir

 

[syed putra]

So who is PM of jiu hu? Nobody?

 

[Annunaki]

NBCB waste my darling Kirsten Han and gay fuck jolovan’s time to visit him !

 

[Nice-Gook]

Don't they use a translator headphones like in the U.N. in malaysia parliament? Can speak in hokkien, mandarin, cantinese, foo chow, hakka and everything translated into malay.

why must I educate you for free ?...so that you would arrogate your pompous self here ...go lah ,go to malusial parliament and find out

or sit in your chair and dig deep deep into the net and see got any info or not

 

[meepokboy]

NBCB waste my darling Kirsten Han and gay fuck jolovan’s time to visit him !

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this bunch of dimwits and hopeless opportunists can no longer rely on their foreign support anymore

 

[rotiprata]

how many here can remember lee lam thye?

 

[zeebjii]

why must I educate you for free ?...so that you would arrogate your pompous self here ...go lah ,go to malusial parliament and find out

or sit in your chair and dig deep deep into the net and see got any info or not

LOL So ironic for you the pompous one to call others ..pompous.

I only know one equation, or 2!

lee kuan yew => lee hsien loong = nepotism

lim kit siang => lim guan eng = nepotism

 

[Nice-Gook]

LOL So ironic for you the pompous one to call others ..pompous.

I only know one equation, or 2!

lee kuan yew => lee hsien loong = nepotism

lim kit siang => lim guan eng = nepotism

me in this illusion lah ,but since you bestowed me a pompous one and so will gladly accept

but you are right lim and Lee are father and son parties

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Party memberships of Mahathir and other MPs were 'ceased' as they acted against Bersatu's constitution: Muhyiddin
Muhyiddin Yassin (2)
Malaysian Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin. (File photo: Bernama)
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (Bersatu) memberships for five federal lawmakers, including veteran politician Mahathir Mohamad, were ceased after they acted against the party's constitution, said Malaysian Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin on Saturday (May 30).

In a media statement, Mr Muhyiddin, who is also the party's president, called for calm as he confirmed that Members of Parliament (MP) Dr Mahathir, Mr Mukhriz Mahathir, My Syed Saddiq Abdul Rahman, Dr Maszlee Malik and Mr Amiruddin Hamzah were no longer party members.

"They were not sacked from the party. Instead, their actions went against the party's constitution and this resulted in the cessation of their memberships with immediate effect," said Mr Muhyiddin.

Last Thursday, letters were issued to the five MPs by Bersatu's executive secretary Muhammad Suhaimi Yahya, informing them that their party memberships were terminated according to clauses 10.2.2 and 10.2.3 of the party's constitution.

Mr Muhammad Suhaimi said this was because they had sat with the opposition bloc during the parliamentary sitting on May 18, and not with the Perikatan Nasional coalition led by Mr Muhyiddin.

In his statement, Mr Muhyiddin added that he did not make the decision hastily even though there were calls for him to act much earlier.

"I wanted to be fair to all parties and wanted to make sure that whatever decision was made would be based on the party's constitution. No individual is above the party's constitution," said Muhyiddin.

He maintained that Dr Mahathir's decision to act against the party's direction and objectives, as decided by Bersatu's supreme council, was disappointing.

"Tun (Mahathir) and his supporters have chosen to continue working with Pakatan Harapan even though the party has decided not to. If that's Tun's (Mahathir) choice, I wish him well," added Mr Muhyiddin.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Commentary: What’s behind Mahathir’s sacking and Malaysia’s new political drama
Mahathir Mohamad’s sacking shows Malaysia’s regime change is far from complete, says James Chin.

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A file photo of Mahathir Mohamad (right) and Muhyiddin Yassin at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur on Mar 4, 2016. (File photo: AFP/Mohd Rasfan)
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HOBART: Mahathir Mohammad and four of his key supporters were sacked from Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (Bersatu) on Thursday (May 28), in what commentators have described as a power move by Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin to consolidate power.

To understand this increasing bitter spat, one must go back to late February when the Pakatan Harapan (PH) government, which Mahathir led, imploded.

Mahathir refused to go along with the majority in Bersatu, led by Muhyiddin Yassin, to form a new government without the Democratic Action Party and Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR).

Mahathir then resigned as Bersatu chairman and prime minister. He pitched the idea of an inclusive, “unity” government – but that concept was rejected by all sides.

Within 24 hours of that proposal, Muhyiddin’s faction in Bersatu stitched up a deal with UMNO and PAS, with promise of parliamentary support from GPS, the ruling coalition in Sarawak.

This was enough for the King to use his discretion to appoint Muhyiddin as the new prime minister in March.

READ: Commentary: Mahathir Mohamad remains the eye of the political storm brewing in Malaysia
THE BREWING POLITICAL CONTEST

Since then, Mahathir has been trying to pull down Muhyiddin and regain power.

During the special one-day parliamentary sitting on May 18, Mahathir had tried to move a motion calling for his reinstatement as Prime Minister and after failing to do so, attempted to table another of no-confidence in Muhyiddin.

Inside Bersatu, Mahathir is also vying to expel Muhyiddin. Mukhriz Mahathir, his son and political heir, has filed papers to challenge Muhyiddin for Bersatu’s presidency at the upcoming party congress.

Mukhriz Mahathir
Former Kedah chief minister Mukhriz Mahathir. (File photo: Bernama)
As a consequence of this move, Mukhriz subsequently lost his position as Kedah’s chief minister two weeks ago, after two PKR assemblymen defected.

Mahathir claims he is still Bersatu chairman because his February resignation was not accepted by the party. Moreover, in the upcoming Bersatu party elections, he is the only candidate for the position of chairman of the party.

Unlike other parties, executive power in Bersatu is shared between the party chairman and the party president.

This confusion has created space for political contestation. Mahathir, still supposedly Bersatu’s chairman, is trying to depose the party president.

READ: Mahathir won’t go quietly after being sacked, even as Muhyiddin consolidates power in Bersatu: Analysts
All that has been solved. By sacking Mahathir as a party member, Muhyiddin becomes acting party chairman while still party president, effectively rendering himself untouchable.

But this drastic action also means any chance of Muhyiddin and Mahathir reconciling politically is close to zero, something supporters of both camps wanted.

MAHATHIR’S OPTIONS

Believe it or not, the sacking is not a knock-out for Mahathir. Mahathir has options.

First, he can appeal to the Registrar of Societies (ROS). Malaysian political parties, unlike most countries, are highly regulated.

All key changes to party leadership requires approval from this government department. If the ROS does not sanction the sacking, then, like a court ruling, the sacking never happened legally.

Mahathir Mohamad, 94, has been trying to stay in shape during Malaysia's coronavirus lockdown
Mahathir Mohamad, 94, has been trying to stay in shape during Malaysia's coronavirus lockdown. (Photo: AFP/Mohd RASFAN)
But this option may be ruled out when the ROS had issued a letter in May to Mahathir, indicating acknowledgment that his resignation from the party chairmanship would be effective immediately. Mahathir has rejected this decision and has signalled he intends to challenge it in court.

Second, Mahathir can sue the ROS and ask for a judicial review through the courts if ROS accepts the cessation of Mahathir’s Bersatu membership. If the High Court accepts the case should be opened, the sacking could be held in abeyance until the courts decide. This will take months, effectively prolonging the instability in Bersatu.

This is, however, a high-risk strategy. If the courts were to get involved, the crucial meeting of the Bersatu Supreme Council meeting back in February holds huge significance.

But there are two versions of this meeting. The first version says a decision was made to leave PH and form a new coalition with UMNO and PAS.

READ: Commentary: Three underlying forces fuelled Malaysia's recent political crisis
The second version says the Bersatu Supreme Council left the final decision to Mahathir to decide alone. This meeting was recorded clandestinely and portions of it were released over the Internet two weeks ago. One snippet has Muhyiddin proposing that the final decision - to leave or no leave PH - be left to Mahathir.

This is important because Muhyiddin’s supporters have consistently said there was consensus over the decision taken to leave PH and Muhyiddin’s move to set up the Perikatan Nasional was simply to carry out the wishes of the party, in contrast to the narrative from Mahathir supporters that Muhyiddin had taken unilateral action and gone against Mahathir’s expressed wishes.

Third, Mahathir can openly rally ordinary Bersatu members and call for a special meeting of the Bersatu Supreme Council, under Article 16.2 of Bersatu’s party constitution which provides for the chairman to call a Supreme Council meeting

If he can get a quorum for this meeting, the Supreme Council can move to sack Muhyiddin from the party, and Mahathir’s faction can assume total control of the party again.

FILE PHOTO: Malaysia's former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad speaks during a news conference
FILE PHOTO: Malaysia's former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad speaks during a news conference in Putrajaya, Malaysia May 18, 2020. REUTERS/Lim Huey Teng/File Photo
Fourth, and this is unlikely, Mahathir can split the party by forming a new party and inviting Bersatu Members of Parliaments and members to defect, thus fatally weakening Bersatu.

But this requires time and Mahathir’s current deadline is July when Parliament will sit again.

There are brewing concerns Mahathir plans to use that session to depose Muhyiddin by tabling and passing a successful vote of no-confidence, forcing Muhyiddin to resign. This will be followed by a swift vote of confidence in Mahathir, paving the way for him to be appointed prime minister again.

No matter how you look at it, Mahathir remains a major thorn in Muhyiddin’s side. The nonagenarian will accept nothing less than Muhyiddin stepping aside and allowing him to step back into the driver’s seat.

THE WIDER PICTURE: WHO ELSE BENEFITS FROM THE DRAMA

In one of the biggest ironies of Malaysian politics at this moment, the biggest winner in this conflict is Najib Razak.

Najib has been mocking Mahathir (and PKR) relentlessly on social media since late February. Within minutes of Mahathir’s sacking, he posted on Facebook: “Dengar kata ada orang dipecat?” (Heard someone just got sacked?). This post alone has generated 180,000 likes and more than 13,000 shares.

Najib has managed to retain huge mindshare with Malaysians through social media and remains a major political player. Among PN politicians, he has the largest social media following and, in fact, a few million followers more than Muhyiddin.

The amount of political sway he possesses is demonstrated in the fact that his son Nizar Najib is the leading contender UMNO is considering nominating as candidate for the upcoming Chini by-election in July.

This also suggests the 1MDB corruption charges he currently faces has been discounted by the UMNO leadership and they expect he will eventually be acquitted.

I also would not rule out Najib making a political comeback at some point if UMNO remains in power, as remarkable as the premise is.

The other big winner is Anwar Ibrahim. Anwar is still reeling from Azmin Ali’s exit from PKR to support Muhyiddin and is trying to consolidate the party.

The good news is Azmin’s exit has allowed two prominent PKR leaders, Rafizi Ramli and Nurul Izzar, who had been sidelined by Azmin’s faction to play more active roles again in PKR. Rafizi and Nurul are popular with younger Malaysians and they are expected to boost PKR’s popularity.

Mahathir Anwar Muhyiddin
Dr Mahathir Mohamad (right), Anwar Ibrahim (centre) and Muhyiddin Yassin leave after a press conference in Kuala Lumpur on Jun 1, 2018. (File photo: Mohd RASFAN / AFP)
HOW MALAYSIANS ARE REACTING

At the end of the day, the question that needs to be asked is this: Do ordinary Malaysians care about all this drama? I would suggest not.

Malaysia is just starting to emerge from the COVID-19 restrictions and people are worried about adjusting back to work.

The lockdown has also impacted the most important religious holiday, Hari Raya Aidilfitri, which was celebrated last week.