Looking For Good People

[jw5]

I can fill up several pages with the names of bad people, but I can barely complete half a page of a pocket sized notebook with the names of good people. I can actually think of 2 guys I knew from NSF days long ago, but as it has been really long, they may have turned bad.
One of my biggest regrets is not having kept in touch with these 2 chaps.
There's actually another guy I knew from reservist days as well, but unfortunately, I have lost touch with him as well.

From a few years back till now, I have been seriously looking around for a counsellor. Not a psychiatrist as such, but someone to help me realign my value systems and seek advice from. The first criteria is that he must be a "good person". I won't be able to pay much, so he must be inexpensive or perhaps even be willing to accept a meal as payment. No religous zealots please, although I am happy to listen to a religous person who doesn't impose his religion on me. Someone whom I don't know, and will hopefully not keep in touch with after the counselling sessions. (hence the question posed in this forum and not to people I know, some of whom may offer themselves as the counsellor)
Please don't ask me to approach my mp, as all politicians especially pappies, are by default, disqualified. Please also don't be a smart aleck and ask me to approach Reverend Shi or Pastor Rony.

I was actually considering approaching Mr Anthony Yeo sometime ago, and even though I didn't know him, was very sad when he passed away recently.

Hence, you can say that I'm looking for a few good men (or women), not just as a potential counsellor, but also to convince me that the world is not just made up of horrible human beings.

Any suggestions?

 

[po2wq]

wat is a goot ppl? ...

 

[fishbuff]

you want it cheap, fresh, near the road and tua liap nee.

no such combination, if u want good counsellor of exceptional quality, u have to pay.

cheap and good will not be fast.

fast and cheap will not be good.

good and fast will not be cheap.

 

[wuqi256]

I can't consider myself a particularly good person but i have done right by my conscience most of my life.

If i could help provide any words that might be of some help, i would be glad to. I am not from any religion as i found most are just using troubled souls to push their religion.

I don't need payment in any form, maybe i might be able to answer one or two of your questions. Just PM me if they are private.

I remembered the words from a wise friend, BHS:

There are actually lots of good people around, just that they are afraid of being taken advantage of if they show their good/kind side and most people don't look hard enough for them anyway.

 

[jw5]

you want it cheap, fresh, near the road and tua liap nee.

no such combination, if u want good counsellor of exceptional quality, u have to pay.

cheap and good will not be fast.

fast and cheap will not be good.

good and fast will not be cheap.

I'll take the first option: cheap and good will not be fast.
Not in a hurry.
Any suggestions?

 

[jw5]

wat is a goot ppl? ...

I dunno also, that's part of the reason why I'm asking.

 

[jw5]

I can't consider myself a particularly good person but i have done right by my conscience most of my life.

If i could help provide any words that might be of some help, i would be glad to. I am not from any religion as i found most are just using troubled souls to push their religion.

I don't need payment in any form, maybe i might be able to answer one or two of your questions. Just PM me if they are private.

I remembered the words from a wise friend, BHS:

There are actually lots of good people around, just that they are afraid of being taken advantage of if they show their good/kind side and most people don't look hard enough for them anyway.

For sure, we can discuss in this forum, but I make it a point never to meet or know anyone as far as possible in this forum.
And I have been in this forum (delphi and here) using the same nick since 1999.

Maybe let's start with this:
How do I realign my value systems? I find that I am gradually losing what I considered to be "good values" and am perhaps going down a slippery slope in terms of values.

 

[wuqi256]

Same here, i don't do meet ups.

Here are my 2 cents based on what i learned from my learned friend:

Its a matter of being practical versus keeping your values. By your very statement, you already know the difference between good and bad. Good and bad is relative, hence its up to an individual on how to interpret things.

No one is 100% bad or 100% good, just how far/extreme one is on each end of the spectrum. Your beliefs and value system belongs to you and no one else. Its part of who you are, it may change or be tweaked in time but its just part of our growth and learning process.

Just like when you were young, what was important to you in childhood, when you were in your teens may be vastly different in nature now.

Again, being good and being bad is a matter of choice, we all have a choice just that some of the consequences of these choices are not acceptable or represents something different to each of us.

The fact that you found yourself slipping means you are more inclined towards doing good, that in itself may be a good sign as it shows you are fully aware of what your actions means. More importantly, you reflected on them.

With awareness, comes perception and following that is knowledge of self. Be at peace and gentle with yourself, accept yourself for what you are. You are already aware of the answer, just look deeper within. Seek not to change if you truly do not want to, for by doing that, you are not being true to yourself.

 

[SneeringTree]

Hence, you can say that I'm looking for a few good men (or women), not just as a potential counsellor, but also to convince me that the world is not just made up of horrible human beings.

Any suggestions?

I think I am a good man. But not sure if I can convince you that "the world is not just made up of horrible human beings".

 

[Perspective]

you want it cheap, fresh, near the road and tua liap nee.

no such combination, if u want good counsellor of exceptional quality, u have to pay.

cheap and good will not be fast.

fast and cheap will not be good.

good and fast will not be cheap.

And cheap, good and fast will be so overloaded and busy that you can't even access to him/her.

 

[jw5]

And cheap, good and fast will be so overloaded and busy that you can't even access to him/her.

"Cheap, good and fast" is probably another oxymoron.

 

[jw5]

I think I am a good man. But not sure if I can convince you that "the world is not just made up of horrible human beings".

From reading most of your posts, I believe that you "not a bad person".
But I stop short of saying that you are a "good person" after reading your posts about "Smoking". Hahaha!

 

[jw5]

Same here, i don't do meet ups.

Here are my 2 cents based on what i learned from my learned friend:


With awareness, comes perception and following that is knowledge of self. Be at peace and gentle with yourself, accept yourself for what you are. You are already aware of the answer, just look deeper within. Seek not to change if you truly do not want to, for by doing that, you are not being true to yourself.

Very well said and rather profound. Perhaps a little too profound for me.
But thank you anyway.

 

[sodoMee]

Any suggestions?

I know you may not like this...

Actually I trust some Pastors from some mainstream churches anytime....just attend their sermons and find out more...

Be open minded, and all your concerns will be addressed!!

Free some more and you won't be taken advantage of!! If you donno the meaning and the purpose of offering, just pass the bag to the person next to you...it's not compulsory...

So many Singaporeans missed the chance of salvation because of this... How sad!! :(

 

[Glaringly]

I can see your problem.

You find it hard to find good men in real life, but you hope to find good men in online forum?

Perhaps you are much too sensitive, and my advice to you is, in order to find bliss, be ignorant or pretend to be when in others company.

Relax and have a beer.

 

[sodoMee]

Maybe let's start with this:
How do I realign my value systems? I find that I am gradually losing what I considered to be "good values" and am perhaps going down a slippery slope in terms of values.

what is 'good' may not be considered as 'good' in the eyes of the Lord...the world is subscribed to a different standard...set by SATAN.

but one thing is for sure, for every evil person on earth, there's some good in that person...

 

[jw5]

I know you may not like this...

Actually I trust some Pastors from some mainstream churches anytime....just attend their sermons and find out more...

Be open minded, and all your concerns will be addressed!!

Free some more and you won't be taken advantage of!! If you donno the meaning and the purpose of offering, just pass the bag to the person next to you...it's not compulsory...

The last "mainstream" pastor that I knew personally talked frequently about upgrading from a motorcycle to a car. I wonder if God has granted him his wish by now.
Once I missed a session to watch a basketball match and he asked me which was more important. I replied "watching basketball" and that was the last I heard from him about upgrading from motor cycle to car.
I would like to think that he was the exception.

 

[jw5]

I can see your problem.

You find it hard to find good men in real life, but you hope to find good men in online forum?

Perhaps you are much too sensitive, and my advice to you is, in order to find bliss, be ignorant or pretend to be when in others company.

Relax and have a beer.

Oh no, I don't intend to find the person here.
But I welcome suggestions of good people whom I could approach. Obviously I would need to know the names or at least read what they have to say.
I used to drink by the gallon, but I don't drink anymore. Perhaps that's the problem.

 

[sodoMee]

The last "mainstream" pastor that I knew personally talked frequently about upgrading from a motorcycle to a car. I wonder if God has granted him his wish by now.
Once I missed a session to watch a basketball match and he asked me which was more important. I replied "watching basketball" and that was the last I heard from him about upgrading from motor cycle to car.
I would like to think that he was the exception.

also you can find your answers in the bible...because of it's historical accounts of people who have been there, have done that.....

make sure you join the cell groups....to meet more nice and positive people..of course man is not perfect, we bound to have some quirks..etc..

but here is not healthy for someone like you...because this place is a ground to trade all kinds of ideas...crazy ideas....

if you are not strong in your faith/ principles and values, you will end up very negative towards life...

if you are burnt out, take a vacation, look at beautiful sceneries, smell some fresh air, go into wide open spaces, contemplate think about life....and find out if there is really God!!

being in a cocoon state is not healthy for any human beings..

 

[ray_of_hope]

Life, which is already nasty, brutish and short, is getting increasingly so, especially on this island.

I am not surprised therefore if more people get frequent bouts of depression, or begin down the slippery road of moral decadence.

Most seem to work on a simple basis -- to make themselves feel good they have to bring misery to others.

Instead of trying to seek out good people, it might be better to seek out those who are in the same circumstances, and who have a similar personality and temperament. Only someone like that would be able to understand, emphatise, and offer advice that is placed in perspective.