Look at the long pains of Thais, fix LEEgime swift and thoroughly

[uncleyap]

http://uncleyap.blogspot.com/2010/04/lesson-from-thailand-singaporeans-to.html

Sunday, April 04, 2010

<!-- Begin .post --> A lesson from Thailand - Singaporeans to learn




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There had been 4 PMs since Thug-Sin, there is no peace since his ouster, which was said to be bloodless coupe. But today blood is spilled everywhere from Government office to Party HQ.

Singaporeans should learn from this painful experience of Thais that avoiding blood and price not fully paid, will not yield the finality of the necessary change. Thug-Sin was not eliminated, and they had let him run. Until today, he and his dogs will return to hound Thailand round after round. From imposing one puppet PM to another (Samak then Somchai). Until today that Abhisit is still yet completed with the task to liquidate Thug-sin's gang.

The accumulated prices is much greater and higher than it would had been if they had liquidated Thug-Sin in a blooded military coupe for once and for all. It would had been long over already. Chinese say 长痛不如短痛。 That is precisely what it meant.

The whole point is to apply this consideration and lesson when liquidating Old Dog Thief Lee Kuan Yew's famiLEE LEEgime, you want to have it done thoroughly for once and for all and not over so many years. Thug-Sin was ousted in 2006 and today is 2010, that traitor is still playing lots of games after buying British football team and eat Bak Kut Teh with the famiLEE LEEgime here. He is still selling the Thai's national interest to enemy Hun Sen in Cambodia, there is still no sight of ending.

If Singaporeans don't have resolve and guts to do it for once and for all, then better leave it to those with a stronger minds and hands to get it done, and forget it, don't cry humanity or democracy and prolong the whole change. Thailand today is the example for best comparison.

When famiLEE LEEgime run away with funds in exile, and stir shit from outside of Red Dot like Thug-Sin, Singaporeans will be in exactly same or worst state then present Thais.

The rot have to go and a price have to be paid. I said this since a long time back.






Democrat Abhisit's style have a long way to go to fix problems.

posted by uncleyap at 1:48 AM

 

[uncleyap]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g3j-vAVG1fg3kEfnogTiH8_4EXvwD9ES4O902

Thai protesters defiant in face of arrest threat
By DENIS D. GRAY (AP) – 59 minutes ago
BANGKOK — Thousands of anti-government protesters refused to leave the commercial heart of Thailand's capital that they occupied for a second day Sunday, defying threats of arrest and vowing to hang on until new elections are called.
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva appealed on national television for the demonstrators to return to the area where they have been encamped in recent weeks, saying Sunday morning that the government and protest leaders were close to reaching a compromise. But at the rally site, the protesters tore up police leaflets and showed no signs of leaving.
Army spokesman Col. Sansern Kawekamnerd said authorities would use tougher measures if the protesters refused to budge but did not provide details. Police said the protesters could face up to one year in prison and fines since they violated emergency decrees by disrupting traffic and commerce.
Office buildings and more than a half-dozen shopping malls, normally packed with weekend shoppers, were closed for security reasons for a second day Sunday. Local newspapers quoted the Thai Chamber of Commerce as saying the economic losses could reach 500 million baht ($15 million) per day.
Many of the mainly poor, rural protesters known as the Red Shirts slept the night on trash-strewn pavements in the shadow of luxury hotels and shopping centers.
"I'm impressed by the leaders. They've shown the tough stuff that we so need," said Thongyoi Jitmun, a protester from northeastern Thailand. "For the government's part, their effort has been futile. What else can they do to us? We're told what we're doing is legal. I'm not going to give up so easily. We only live once."
But many showed signs of fatigue. To escape the scorching sun, weary protesters huddled in the shade of an entrance way to a closed shopping mall.
The Red Shirts' fourth weekend demonstration in Bangkok targeted the district of upscale hotels and glitzy shopping malls in an attempt to force Abhisit to meet their demands, after failing to oust his government through mass marches and negotiations.
Among the businesses affected were the Siam Paragon, among the fanciest shopping malls in Asia, and hotels like the Grant Hyatt Erawan Hotel and the InterContinental Bangkok.
Pam Napsri, a manager with the InterContinental Hotel Group in Thailand, said the protesters have so far been cooperative and allowed guests to freely go in and out of the deluxe, 381-room hotel.
But hotel functions, like Easter Sunday lunch at the InterContinental, were canceled and some hotels guests left before their scheduled departure.
About 10,000 had protesters gathered in the area Saturday, but by Sunday morning, the numbers had dropped considerably. Mobile toilets, food and water were brought in, some of it from Bangkok's historic quarter where the protesters have camped since March 12.
The Red Shirt movement — known formally as the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship — consists largely of supporters of ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and pro-democracy activists who opposed a 2006 military coup that ousted him.
In a video phone-in Saturday night, Thaksin repeated his calls for the protesters to stay the course.
"Fight and be tired for a few more days. This is better than being tired for the rest of your lives due to injustice," he said. "Please be patient. Victory is just around the corner."
Protest leaders have portrayed the demonstrations as a struggle between Thailand's impoverished, mainly rural masses — who benefited from Thaksin policies of cheap health care and low-interest village loans — and a Bangkok-based elite impervious to their plight.
Thaksin's allies won elections in December 2007 to restore democracy, but two resulting governments were forced out by court rulings. A parliamentary vote brought Abhisit's party to power in December 2008. The Red Shirts say his rule is undemocratic and that only new elections can restore integrity to Thai democracy.
Abhisit must call new elections by the end of 2011, and many believe Thaksin's allies are likely to win — which could spark new protests by Thaksin's opponents.
Residents of the sprawling Thai capital are divided in their view of the Red Shirts, with some merely fed up with the loss of business and traffic jams.
The protesters, whose numbers have peaked at about 100,000, have received support from lower-middle-class residents, many of them migrants from rural areas, but they are detested by many in professional, business and senior government ranks.
While some in the middle and upper classes have expressed sympathy for the Red Shirts' demands for a better economic deal and an end to inequalities in Thai society, they don't support the movement outright because Thaksin is its shadow leader.
Thaksin, a multimillionaire convicted of corruption and abuse of power, is a fugitive abroad but encourages the Red Shirts with frequent messages. His six years in office were riddled by accusations of nepotism and an erosion of democratic institutions.
<!-- google_ad_section_end(name=article) --> Associated Press writer Kinan Suchaovanich in Bangkok contributed to this report.

 

[Anti_lky]

3 cheers for the Thais
May the force be with u

 

[steffychun]

Democracy is not a institution that can aid development. Even today's developed countries too ages to reached their so called democratic structures.

 

[uncleyap]

Democracy is not a institution that can aid development. Even today's developed countries too ages to reached their so called democratic structures.

Democracy is a good system but just limited only to the well developed and trouble-free situations. Democracy well never work well when there is trouble, when in trouble Democracy will only run troubles deeper. Democracy well never be acceptable when there is real emergency, where there is a real pressing distress Democracy become absolute poison. Democracy is perfect when every aspect can be satisfactory to everyone, when there is sufficient resources, intelligence, integrity, trust, respect, love, time, space, and even music is nice - yes that is when Democracy will work perfectly.

When there are lots of selfish coward and greedy people, there are exploiting bastards, there are traitors, morons, tyrant, scums, crooks, liars..... then problems will run just deeper and deeper with Democracy.

When things gets worst, in emergency crisis, wars, mass disasters, mass epidemics, huge famine, everyone is desperate, then Democracy will make solutions impossible, totally impossible. That is why Democracy can NEVER be within the military.

 

[uncleyap]

I already said Abhisit is applying wrong strategy especially in opening negotiation with Red Shirt. Now he encouraged the mob. He got the troubles he asked for.

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=55362

State of Emergency will not make it any better, it will make his emergency longer by at least extra 5 days.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/07/politics/State-of-emergency-declared-30126634.html

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State of emergency declared


By The Nation

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Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva conceded the enforcement of Internal Security Act (ISA) had failed to deter the protests by the red shirts.





Abhisit then deemed it necessary to invoke the emergency decree over Bangkok. Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban has been appointed to supervise the emergency rule.
"We want to facilitate other actions to restore peace and order. The actions will be in accordance with the law and international standard," Abhisit said in a TV-pool broadcast.

The prime minister reaffirmed that the emergency rule would not mean an imminent crackdown on protesters but to become an effective tool to enforce the laws, including the legal proceedings against red shirts leaders.
He promised to restore the normalcy as soon as possible.

The emergency rule covers Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, Ayutthaya, Pathum Thani, Nakhon Pathom.