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LKY's 'flash in the pan' Obama gets another 4 years

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Recall that at a local conference in early February 2008, it was Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, no less, who labelled Obama as a “flash in the pan”. He continued to exhibit public disdain and lack of enthusiasm for the Democratic candidate, right until the moment when the financial crisis hit corporate America in September 2008. The daughter-in-law had invested heavily in Bank Of America shares.

In stark contrast, Lee spoke effusively about John McCain in laudatory terms, lavishing public praise on the senator’s record and experience in government, all but endorsing him as Singapore’s choice for President of the United States. Even the Straits Times got in on the act, hosting a joint commentary authored by John McCain and fellow senator Joe Lieberman on the subject of the US’ commitment to Asia on the opening day of the 2008 Shangri-La dialogue, an annual gathering of defence ministers held in Singapore.

- http://singaporedesk.blogspot.sg/2012/11/four-more-years.html
 
We should invite John McCain to run Spore's gov't & let the old one spend some time in an old folks home. We can invite those 2 filipinos from Nightingale to give him special treatment;)
 
LKY's greatest weakness is after all that's been said and done, is his inability to accurately gauge and assess people.

That over the years has been his biggest failure. Resultant of that is the handover in reins of govt to really incompetent people.
 
We should invite John McCain to run Spore's gov't & let the old one spend some time in an old folks home. We can invite those 2 filipinos from Nightingale to give him special treatment;)

They two Filipinos may be Beatified for being "angels of mercy", they help us to get out of our miseries & may even be awarded the Raman Magsaysay Award from their countrymen!! ha ha ha
 
LKY's greatest weakness is after all that's been said and done, is his inability to accurately gauge and assess people.

That over the years has been his biggest failure. Resultant of that is the handover in reins of govt to really incompetent people.

I think his greatest weakness is ignorance, surpassed only by the sheep in this cuntry that worship him as the "founder of Singapore". :rolleyes:
 
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I think his greatest weakness is ignorance, surpassed only by the sheep in this cuntry that worship him as the "founder of Singapore". :rolleyes:

not ignorance, but delusion of greatness of self and family.
 
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PAP always wanted neocons: They supported US wars and US dominance. Yet in the 1980s, they kicked out the US First Secretary from the Embassy.
 
The Straits Times (Singapore)

June 26, 2008 Thursday

Picking leaders, not speakers

LENGTH: 412 words


POPULAR democracies don't always throw up the best leaders, because the electoral process focuses on who is the best persuader, rather than the best leader.

Making this point last night, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew cited the example of the recent Democratic presidential nomination race in the United States.

He was responding to a question on what advice he had for governments of developing countries which are struggling with the challenges of growth and development.

Mr Lee said that the most important aspect of good government is having able men in charge. But that 'is very difficult when you have popular elections', as a candidate is not judged by his ability to govern but by his persuasive power.

Referring to the contest between presumed Democratic Party presidential nominee Barack Obama Enhanced Coverage LinkingBarack Obama -Search using:News, Most Recent 60 DaysBiographies Plus Newsand Mrs Hillary Clinton, Enhanced Coverage LinkingHillary Clinton, -Search using:News, Most Recent 60 DaysBiographies Plus NewsMr Lee said he found it 'quite fascinating'.

'Watching these two, at the end of the day, you read all the assessments, what is the conclusion?

'The conclusion is not whether Barack Obama Enhanced Coverage LinkingBarack Obama -Search using:News, Most Recent 60 DaysBiographies Plus Newsor Hillary Clinton Enhanced Coverage LinkingHillary Clinton -Search using:News, Most Recent 60 DaysBiographies Plus Newswill make the better president, but where did they go wrong? Where did Hillary Clinton Enhanced Coverage LinkingHillary Clinton -Search using:News, Most Recent 60 DaysBiographies Plus Newsgo wrong?

'She went wrong because she didn't fire her campaign organiser early enough and paid no attention to the caucuses.'

Noting that Mr Obama won the nomination because he had a team of advisers who helped him strategise, Mr Lee said: 'Does that make a man who will bring change to the world? I hope he has a team that knows how to bring change to the world...

'Where do we go from here? Well, we don't know. Let's trust to luck and see what happens. And that's what we have to d
o.'

Recounting his own experience at the polls in the 1960s, he said his was a contest of a totally different nature:

'It was life and death. My contest was against a group of very strong and determined communist cadres who wanted to build a communist state out of Singapore and would fight, willing to kill anybody that stood in their way.

'So for anyone who is willing to stand against them, you must first have courage; that you are not afraid to be wiped out by them.'

Another vital characteristic of good government is a leadership that is above board, he said.

'Decisions are made not because you are going to get something out of it but because it is necessary for the country. We have succeeded in getting the Singapore electorate to accept it because we have done it successfully each time and they know that we have not got richer - Singapore has got richer.'

LING CHANG HONG
 
The Straits Times (Singapore)

February 2, 2008 Saturday

Major task to find next 'A Team' from small talent pool;
MM: Two-party system not viable as there's not enough top talent

BYLINE: Clarissa Oon

LENGTH: 784 words


SINGAPORE'S talent pool is not big enough to support a two-party political system, as it is tough enough unearthing a first-rate team comparable to Singapore's founding fathers, said Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew yesterday.

Calling the People's Action Party (PAP) Old Guard Cabinet 'the A Team', he noted that there have been calls for political liberalisation, but also reminded that Singapore's 3.7 million resident population lacked the talent to support a two-party system.

'Many people say, why don't we open up, then you have two big parties and one party always ready to take over. I do not believe that for a single moment.

'We are not Israelis, you know. They can afford to do that. They have got any number of generals, writers, linguists, life science researchers, everything. It's a different mix of population,' Mr Lee said.

'We do not have the numbers to ensure that we'll always have an A Team and an alternative A Team. I've tried it, it's just not possible,' he added.

Speaking at a dialogue session at the Shangri-La Hotel, Mr Lee noted that, when he became Prime Minister in 1959, only two of the 10 ministers in his first Cabinet had been born in Singapore.

They were Mr Lee himself and Mr K.M. Byrne, who was the Labour and Law Minister in the early 1960s.

'All the others were born and bred in Malaysia, Ceylon, India and China,' Mr Lee said.

But now, Singapore has to pick leaders from within its borders, he said, adding that 'it's one thing going to the South China Sea for deep sea fishing (and) another thing going to Sentosa lagoon.'

He also cited the example of the current Chief Justice, Mr Chan Sek Keong, who was born in Ipoh.

For the next Chief Justice, however, 'we are trawling from the Singapore pool'.

At the same time, he stressed the necessity for Singapore to have a top-notch team in charge.

'Singapore needs an A Team in charge to work out the best solution...political leaders who are on the ball, think ahead, analyse carefully, choose the best options and sell it to the people, because you have got to carry people with you.'

He said that he had been lucky in finding an A team to replace the original one that was 'more than equal' in ability, integrity and capabilities.

The second A team was able to produce a third A team.

'This present A team,' he said, 'is good for another two elections. If, in these two elections, you don't see the silhouette of a fourth-generation A team, then you have reason to worry, because you need at least one term to become a really capable MP and a minister.'

In a dialogue with 900 participants at an Institute of Policy Studies (IPS) conference on the future scenarios facing Singapore, Mr Lee said that the major threat to the country was not an inability to attract talent but the loss of Singapore-born talent.

'Our Achilles heel is that we lose too much of our own talent at the top, drawn by very attractive offers from top financial and legal institutions taking them out to China and elsewhere, and then not returning,' he said.

He cited his own family as an example.

His two sons had both taken up government scholarships and then returned to help build the Singapore Armed Forces and the economy up.

But of his three grandsons, all outstanding students, only one had taken up a government scholarship.

The Public Service Commission had also informed him that only half of each year's 300 top students applied for scholarships.

'That is the challenge that I consider most critical. We win that challenge and we can keep two-thirds of our top talent, then...that settled core is firm, that spine is there, the added talent can be so many megabytes, the hard disk is there,' he said.

Returning to the theme of political leadership, Mr Lee questioned the wisdom of supporting leaders like current United States Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

He described Mr Obama as a one-term senator with manifest intelligence and a gift for getting the right pitch.

'But you ask yourself: Is it going to be a safer world with McCain or with Obama?' he wondered aloud, leaving the question unanswered
.

IPS chairman Tommy Koh later asked Mr Lee if the PAP would allow for a human rights commission to be formed.

Mr Lee said that that was for the younger leaders to decide but added that, in his view, as long as the Singapore Government remained clean, capable, meritocratic and fair, 'I don't see the need for more political policemen'.

Prof Koh, however, said that he respectfully disagreed.

He pointed out that, in mature democracies such as the United Kingdom and France, there were institutions such as human rights commissions and ombudsmen which 'act not as policemen but in order to help improve governance and fairness'.
 
The Straits Times (Singapore)

July 10, 2008 Thursday

Both McCain and Obama have pluses and minuses

BYLINE: JEREMY AU YONG

LENGTH: 508 words

SENATOR John McCain is a realist and Senator Barack Obama is a quick learner - and Singapore, like the rest of the world, will have to live with whoever wins the American presidential election.
Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew gave an insight to his views on the two candidates last night when he was asked how a change of government in the United States would impact China and the rest of Asia.
Answering questions during an hour-long dialogue at the Nomura Asia Equity Forum, MM Lee adopted a neutral stand on the two candidates competing in the November race. And he said he did not want to specu-late on what the Chinese would think.
'I have not discussed with any Chinese, knowledgeable Chinese, their preference for either Mr McCain or Mr Obama. There are pluses and minuses for both of them,' he said.
Mr Lee then spoke about each candidate in turn.
He described the Republican's presumptive nominee, Senator McCain, as a known entity.
'His position is well known. He's 72, his record is well known, his views are firm, he has very strong views on democracy and human rights.'
On that last point though, Mr Lee said that Senator McCain may have to learn that China cannot be changed.
'Like (former US president) Bill Clinton, Mr McCain may have to spend his first term learning that America cannot change China, whatever America does,' he said.
'It can influence gradually the way China develops, but neither China nor Russia nor India can be changed by the sanctions or exhortations. On the whole, Mr McCain is a realist and, after a while, things should sort themselves out.'
As for the Democrat, Senator Obama, MM Lee said the success of his presidency - should he win - will de-pend on how quickly he learns.
'From all accounts, he learns very quickly so that's a hopeful sign,' he said.

He said he had not met Senator Obama but had read about him, and heard good things about him.
'The Prime Minister has met him and told me that he is very quick on the uptake, eager to learn,' MM Lee said.
In the area of foreign affairs, he noted Senator Obama's stated willingness to engage and talk to representatives of organisations like Hamaz and Hezbollah because 'you mean well and you think, let's solve it, (and that) the other side will respond with equal sincerity'.
'I think that after one or two meetings, he will discover that they've got fixed positions. Their positions (are) based on a historical grievance of Israel being imposed into the middle of the Arab world,' he said.
'And America being a great supporter of Israel, and Mr Obama has, with Mr McCain, (been) a solid supporter of Israeli rights and security.
'So I think there are inevitable disconnects and how quickly he learns from these disconnects will decide how successful his presidency will be.'
Ultimately though, MM Lee put the US presidential race in this perspective:
'We have to live with whoever is the president. It may be for four years, it may be for eight years but the world will go on as it has gone on. But at the end of the four or eight years, it may be a slightly different world.'
 
Mr Lee certainly is a very wise man. McCain would have done a much better job but democracy, being what it is, means that the choice of leader is invariably the less intelligent choice as they are voted in by those with an IQ of less than 110.
 
Recall that at a local conference in early February 2008, it was Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, no less, who labelled Obama as a “flash in the pan”. He continued to exhibit public disdain and lack of enthusiasm for the Democratic candidate, right until the moment when the financial crisis hit corporate America in September 2008. The daughter-in-law had invested heavily in Bank Of America shares.

In stark contrast, Lee spoke effusively about John McCain in laudatory terms, lavishing public praise on the senator’s record and experience in government, all but endorsing him as Singapore’s choice for President of the United States. Even the Straits Times got in on the act, hosting a joint commentary authored by John McCain and fellow senator Joe Lieberman on the subject of the US’ commitment to Asia on the opening day of the 2008 Shangri-La dialogue, an annual gathering of defence ministers held in Singapore.

LKY is a right wing hack who believes in enriching the pockets of the wealthy to the detriment of everyone else. rising tides my ass....

2016...
 
Actually, LKY is part of the wealthy that right wing hacks believe in enriching. As such, LKY must give voice to the hacks, lest their game is revealed and people reject them outright.

LKY is a right wing hack who believes in enriching the pockets of the wealthy to the detriment of everyone else. rising tides my ass....

2016...
 
Excellent idea. The regime should walk the talk: importing FT like John McCain to help run sinkieland.



hi there


1. exactly.
2. i bet that mccain should be even cheaper than any of those useless sheep.
3. ah jinnx included!
 
Mr Lee certainly is a very wise man. McCain would have done a much better job but democracy, being what it is, means that the choice of leader is invariably the less intelligent choice as they are voted in by those with an IQ of less than 110.

Proof of his wisdom is choosing Sarah Palin as his VP. Maybe he wanted Palin to watch over the Alaskan shores with a pair of binoculars and inform him when the Ruskies are coming.
 
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