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Lim Sia Sway: I say Budget is pro-employee means it's pro-employee!!!

SneeringTree

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Jan 29, 2009
Budget is pro-worker
NTUC chief rallies unions to unleash the Singapore advantage.
By Goh Chin Lian
THE $20.5 billion Resilience Package unveiled by the Government last week is more pro-worker than employees may realise for two reasons, said labour chief Lim Swee Say on Thursday.

Firstly, the Jobs Credit scheme to subsidise part of the wage bill of employers, makes Singaporeans more cost-competitive than foreign workers.

Secondly, this scheme avoids the need to reduce the employers' Central Provident Fund contribution. Mr Lim was responding to views from some quarters reported in the media, that the measures announced in this year's Budget favoured businesses more than workers.

'This is a gross misunderstanding of the Resilience Package,' he told 500 union leaders at the National Trades Union Congress' annual workplan.

During the 90-minute meeting, Mr Lim spoke about unleashing what he described as 'the Singapore advantage' - the unique situation of unity among the labour movement, employers and the Government here that is not found in other countries - so as to save jobs and create growth in a global downturn that is set to be deep and long.

He identified three key performance indicators that the labour movement has set for itself this year.

These are: to avoid exceeding the record retrenchment of 29,000 workers during the 1998 Asian financial crisis; avoid exceeding the high unemployment rate of 5.2 per cent in 2003 during the Sars crisis; and strive for a faster recovery than the global economy during the eventual upturn.

He urged union leaders on the ground as well as employers to fulfil four commitments: to make Singapore the most pro-business economy in the world, the most pro-worker nation, the most united tripartism and most caring labour movement.

On the last point, he said the labour movement is committing at least $20 million this year - up from $13 million last year - to ease the financial burden of more workers through vouchers, subsidies and discounts.
 
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sinren67

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Just weeks ago, he says if working closely with govt, we can "Upturn The Downturn", now, is "Singapore Advantage"!:eek::eek::eek:

S'pore is now being seen as one of the worst hit if not the worst, which guesstimate negative growth of 5% since 1975. So what "Sg Advantage" he is talking about?
 

Ah Guan

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.... to make Singapore the most pro-business economy in the world, the most pro-worker nation, the most united tripartism and most caring labour movement.

I like this part the best.... Doesn't the NTUC chief know that pro-worker and pro-business are mutually exclusive objectives?

Lim Sia Sway if you want to be a bastard you should drop the Mr Nice Guy act.

 

The_Latest_H

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I like this part the best.... Doesn't the NTUC chief know that pro-worker and pro-business are mutually exclusive objectives?

Lim Sia Sway if you want to be a bastard you should drop the Mr Nice Guy act.


I think there's a middle ground that can be met. Having said that I don't think one can claim to be both at the same time; instead it'd be more of a compromise where both sides have to give up, sacrifice, let go of some things that had been part of the old equation for many decades now.

That's the thing that is going on now- especially in other countries. Here though, while part of it holds true, as long as the government has a 60% vested interest in the private sector, there will always be a sizable amount of politicisation within the tripartite arrangement.

NTUC cannot claim to be a representative when its also part of the government and also a major employer in the private sector in the first place; its a clash of interest, and conflicts with their main priority of protecting workers.
 

ahbengsong

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to make Singapore the most pro-business economy in the world, the most pro-worker nation, the most united tripartism and most caring labour movement.
[unquote]

fuck.. and to think these are the 'calibre' people of pap in government service... he definitely don't know wtf he is talking about...
 

VIBGYOR

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12% subsidy will make employers keep locals and fire FT?!?! What a joke! PRC bus drivers earn only 900 per month!

how to survive mortgage payments for 3 room HDB flats?

children must go hungry...after paying utilities bills.

don't get sick too! healthcare in SGP is super expensive!
 

Faidenk

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A colleague from Spain, a long time ago, once told me, in jest, that Paris is the most beautiful city in the world. The only problem was 'there are too many Frenchmen living there'.

I think the time has come for the same to be said of Singapore, by the FT's, and not in jest.
 

cass888

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Budget is pro-employee even though SBF detractors refuse to admit it

Yes, 900 only. First hand account. Lodging is free, the bus company put six drivers in one flat.

The flat probably costs $1,500, which divided by 6 works out to $1,150 per driver. With the 12% job credit there is effectively no employer CPF contribution.

If Singaporean drivers refuse to drive for $1,150, then too bad for them.
 

High Command

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I like this part the best.... Doesn't the NTUC chief know that pro-worker and pro-business are mutually exclusive objectives?

Lim Sia Sway if you want to be a bastard you should drop the Mr Nice Guy act.


Not very smart is he? Either way doubt it was done by him. Whoever did that for him really has a poor grasp of logic.
 

annexa

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Firstly, the Jobs Credit scheme to subsidise part of the wage bill of employers, makes Singaporeans more cost-competitive than foreign workers.

Bluff lah. SPR = Sinkie? They also benefit from CPF Jobs Credit right? Easy to get SPR? VERY easy! So gahmen again talk cock. Give money to foreigner but bluff us say citizen!

Unless they have max limit years SPR must then become citizen or get kicked from SPR status.
 

SneeringTree

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Re: Budget is pro-employee even though SBF detractors refuse to admit it

The flat probably costs $1,500, which divided by 6 works out to $1,150 per driver. With the 12% job credit there is effectively no employer CPF contribution.

If Singaporean drivers refuse to drive for $1,150, then too bad for them.

You expect a Singaporean to survive with $1 150 per month? Seriously?
 

po2wq

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... avoid exceeding the high unemployment rate of 5.2 per cent in 2003 during the Sars crisis ...
xceed oso small matter ... gt 95% still employed ...


... strive for a faster recovery than the global economy during the eventual upturn. ...
ya ... muz 1 up ze whole world ...


... to make Singapore the most pro-business economy in the world, the most pro-worker nation, the most united tripartism and most caring labour movement. ...
ya ... everyting oso muz b no 1 ...


ya ... upturn ze downturn! ... turn all ze charts upside down, can oredi ...
 
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