kl sgp hsr mati liao...haaaa

[syed putra]

I think they are just buying time to be relieved from this project. If it's going to terminate at JB, then there's no need to even have the HSR. Fully electrifying the present KTM line will more than suffice even if the trip from JB to KL will take a little longer at no more than 2.5 hours instead of 90 minutes with the HSR.

If they die die also want to have the HSR domestically, then it is only feasibility to extend all the way to Penang or Kedah, which I don't think they even have the financial means to do this for the next 20 years. Don't forget that they now have to cater to the US$83b expansionary budget for 2021 due to the present Covid-19 pandemic.

Build the hsr station in kranji. Its cheaper. No need for land acquisition as it was previous ktm land.and no need for bridge . cheaper solution equal cheaper ticket prices.

 

[nightsafari]

as a tiny island, there’s no point going over 169 mph to see what cuntryside. just hdb flats in a blur in 6.9 minutes. it benefits jiuhu as they have way much more land to cover. western europe is different as within the eu, they can eliminate customs and passport controls between cuntries, eg. from paris to amsterdam via brussels. moreover, it’s a continental size land to cover. however, due to national pride and protection, there are mainly two hsr systems that are multi-cross-borders: tvg and ice. ice belongs to germany. plus several intra-cuntry systems. it’s not tvg nor ice all the way from paris to vienna. you need to switch. see map below. tvg mostly in purple/blue and ice mostly in red. hsr truly benefits the truly continental cuntries: prc, russia, usa, canada, brazil, arsetralia, india. even japan as an island nation benefits from it, and the uk too if it adopts it. but these are large island nations with much ground to cover. it does jackshit for small island nations. the only hsr for a small island community is in hk, yet hk has the new territories which allow her hsr to straddle 3 stops from airport to dismayland to kowloon to hk island.
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Not for sinkieland, but if I can go from Penang or KL to Singapore or vice versa in a couple of hours, I would be chuffed.

 

[laksaboy]

Not for sinkieland, but if I can go from Penang or KL to Singapore or vice versa in a couple of hours, I would be chuffed.

Gulfstream jet.

https://www.gulfstream.com/en/aircraft/gulfstream-g700/

 

[nightsafari]

Gulfstream jet.

https://www.gulfstream.com/en/aircraft/gulfstream-g700/

yah... after quite a few lifetimes of accumulating money.

 

[syed putra]

yah... after quite a few lifetimes of accumulating money.

You can rent it. Based on per trip basis. Like what rosmah did.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Singapore is the least important place in this peninsula Malaysia....

No natural resources and now expecting cheat ahnehs to fill up the new age resources gap.

Can either hand over Singapore to India or China to survive in 2025 onwards...

PETALING JAYA: The Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High Speed Rail (HSR) project is expected to resume without Singapore’s participation, according to sources.

The new plan was for the line to end in Johor Bahru instead of Singapore, the sources said.

Last May, Singapore agreed to a Malaysian request to postpone the start of the project to the end of this year to allow for discussions on changes that Putrajaya had in mind.

Two well-placed sources have now told FMT that the changes included continuing the project without Singapore.

They said Putrajaya has informed its Singapore counterpart of the change in plans.

This means that the line will end in Johor Bahru instead of connecting Kuala Lumpur to Singapore.

The two sources FMT spoke to were critical of Putrajaya’s latest decision, with one saying it would bring into question the sustainability of the megaproject.

“The HSR was touted as a game changer as it would ensure seamless travel between KL and Singapore in just 90 minutes,” he said. “This is one of the busiest air routes in the world. So there is demand for the rail link.


“KL and Johor Bahru are already served by domestic flights and the North-South Expressway.”

He also referred to Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd’s Electric Train Service project, which will see the entire west coast connected by rail in 2022. This line will connect KL Sentral to JB Sentral with trains travelling up to 160km per hour.

“Once both projects are complete, you will have two rail lines connecting KL to JB. This is a redundancy.”

The other source said axing Singapore from the project could complicate relations between the two countries. He noted that Singapore had already incurred expenses and had said it would demand compensation from Malaysia.

“Singapore made its stand on this very clear when the Pakatan Harapan administration mulled its cancellation,” he said. “It will exercise its right to compensation.

“This could end up being very costly for taxpayers.”

He said it had been reported that Singapore would seek about SG$250 million (RM760 million) in compensation.

When contacted by FMT, the High Commission of Singapore said it continued to believe that the HSR project would benefit both countries and reiterated its commitment to fulfilling its obligations under the bilateral agreement.

It added that the project’s construction had been suspended twice at Malaysia’s request, with the final extension ending at the end of the year.

“Singapore and Malaysia signed the Kuala Lumpur–Singapore HSR bilateral agreement in December 2016. This is a legally binding international agreement which remains in force today.

“During the suspension period, Malaysia proposed some changes to the HSR project and we have been discussing them in good faith with Malaysia.

“We will make our best efforts to conclude discussions with Malaysia by Dec 31. However, if by Dec 31 Malaysia does not proceed with the HSR Project, under our agreement with Malaysia, Malaysia will bear the agreed costs incurred by Singapore in fulfilling the HSR bilateral agreement,” it said.

Source: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca...out-singapore/

 

[frenchbriefs]

Im confused......is anyone else getting feelings of deja vu?

Is Malaysia kicking sg out again because "we wanted it"? Hahahaha song boy sinkies?

Ur dreams of cheap condo living and 3:1 exchange rate are over!!!!!!

 

[frenchbriefs]

Why do we need A HSR ?? It doesn't benefit Singaporean at all.
Imagine the people from KL and Penang flood Singapore job market. Work 5 days and goes back to KL and Penang once a week. How would that benefit Singaporean ???
Imagine people from Johor come in and work and goes back home day in and out, what's there in for Singaporean ???
They are the ones who benefitted not us. They earn the money and invest in their own property and no one will want to rent overly expensive property in Singapore. It has a hollow out effect. What's there for Singaporean.

Singapore is a high costs nation with little or no Intellectual patent to it's name. No innovation or some high tech stuff that the World needed. We can only look foward to import more cheap labor to actually supress our already pathetic salary.

Allow us access to JB?sinkies only hope of survival in this high cost and low wage at least low wage for sinkies is modern access to JB....

PAP is going to import more fts regardless of.....u think no hsr is going to stop them?

I bet PAP is crying their eyes out they cannot export poor low productivity sinkies to JB and reserve mainland Singapore for rich cecas and highly productive FTS.

 

[congo9]

Allow us access to JB?sinkies only hope of survival in this high cost and low wage at least low wage for sinkies is modern access to JB....

PAP is going to import more fts regardless of.....u think no hsr is going to stop them?

I bet PAP is crying their eyes out they cannot export poor low productivity sinkies to JB and reserve mainland Singapore for rich cecas and highly productive FTS.

Yes, i bet that they are crying themsleves out this time.

 

[whoami]

Allow us access to JB?sinkies only hope of survival in this high cost and low wage at least low wage for sinkies is modern access to JB....

PAP is going to import more fts regardless of.....u think no hsr is going to stop them?

I bet PAP is crying their eyes out they cannot export poor low productivity sinkies to JB and reserve mainland Singapore for rich cecas and highly productive FTS.

Of course PAP not going to stop importing FTs. The whole economy will collapse without FTs. Sinkies still sleeping or dreaming?

 

[frenchbriefs]

Of course PAP not going to stop importing FTs. The whole economy will collapse without FTs. Sinkies still sleeping or dreaming?

Sinkies have always been asleep.

 

[whoami]

Sinkies have always been asleep.

Maybe brain dead.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Here is a far fetch thingy

a speculation

could the Johore sultan have a hand in not wanting a HSR from Sinkie to KL direct ?

because the sultan bets big time in JB property markets , and he had already publicly said Sinkies cannot afford to live in Sinkieland in time , the alternative being living in JB and working in SG ,PAP too pretty much welcomed it

but it was Dr M who threw a spanner in this ...whreas even Najib was working towards it by giving easy access to Malusia for Sinkies and Tiongs through immigration

now that Mohideen is is power and that he is a johorean , possibly dancing to Sultan wishes while still in power

 

[syed putra]

Come on. If PAP is serious, they will propose to build their own track from jurong to KL. But at that time, they had a sucker to sell the project to.najib. and use najib's money to build the hsr instead.

 

[CPTMiller]

Yes, i bet that they are crying themsleves out this time.

Government encourage fast good cheap workforce.
When citizens don't support eg. Request higher salary from bosses.
Government turn to import talent to fill the gap.
In the end bosses happy and continue pay worker levy, taxes, gst to government.
Government winner and country winner

 

[Confuseous]

I have always felt that any cross-govt deals with the Malaysians will not work.
Our squeaky clean reputation on such infrastructures work against it.
The m&ds will break the deals because they are then able to divide up the
goodies themselves.

We were well aware of that - hence compensation clauses from Day One.
Not very different from pre-nups. The real losers are those who lost their
golf memberships and properties which had to give way under the plans.

 

[syed putra]

Here is a far fetch thingy

a speculation

could the Johore sultan have a hand in not wanting a HSR from Sinkie to KL direct ?

because the sultan bets big time in JB property markets , and he had already publicly said Sinkies cannot afford to live in Sinkieland in time , the alternative being living in JB and working in SG ,PAP too pretty much welcomed it

but it was Dr M who threw a spanner in this ...whreas even Najib was working towards it by giving easy access to Malusia for Sinkies and Tiongs through immigration

now that Mohideen is is power and that he is a johorean , possibly dancing to Sultan wishes while still in power

Building the track to jurong is not a problem. It can be a new hub for links to forest city, batu pahat and pontian. The problem is everytime PAP is involved, it gets complicated. They want to dump all the cost onto Malaysia i reckon.

 

[syed putra]

I have always felt that any cross-govt deals with the Malaysians will not work.
Our squeaky clean reputation on such infrastructures work against it.
The m&ds will break the deals because they are then able to divide up the
goodies themselves.

We were well aware of that - hence compensation clauses from Day One.
Not very different from pre-nups. The real losers are those who lost their
golf memberships and properties which had to give way under the plans.

Like i said. If PAP is serious, they can build the hsr themselves.but they actually wanted KL to pay for it.

 

[mojito]

no point going all the way to sg as there will already be a rapid transit connection between jb and sg. hsr doesn’t work well across international boundaries that require passport and custom controls, unlike west europe, and prc/hk. wtf are sg technocrats thinking?

Probably some silver serpent cronies all ready made a quick buck out of real estate punting there.

 

[congo9]

Like i said. If PAP is serious, they can build the hsr themselves.but they actually wanted KL to pay for it.

There isn't a need for HSR and i don't think Singapore need one anytime soon.
MRT, plane and car is good enough.