They can't hoot me, because I don't believe in any deity. I only believe in love, which is why I am trying to save them from their own stupidity.better don't talk so much here. this forum got many knowledgeable religious scholars from many religions. later u tiohoot upside down then u know
Maybe trillion dollar.it's billion dollar industry of course it can't stop churning
mecca is the most brilliant idea from the islamic religionMaybe trillion dollar.
Just one century ago, or even before WWII, it was a backwater. Its grandiosity only started with the oil boom.
Muslim caliph never considered mecca as important. Nobody fought over it. Nor bothered to turn it into a large city. Nor mention if they had performed the haj like what current muslims doing. Its like mecca just rose yo prominent just recently.
They were all fighting for jerusalem, damascus, baghdad, egypt. Those were areas of relevance. The food baskets. Fertile crescent.
With this peer reviewed scientific revelation, I am forever indebted to all muslims. Heck, I might even convert!
Because Jesus is 100% man and 100% God at the same time.
interesting perspective. it's what the rise of Jewish and Semitic nationalism has done to promote zionist capitalism in Israel. How messianic "christians" are now selling the holy land as a pilgrim's homage, where they will show you where jesus' birth place was, where His tomb was, and all the places in the Bible brought to life. Unless you were a contemporary of the apostles, and even then they didn't have the full portait of The Lord's life and His itinerary, everything is pure guess work.Maybe trillion dollar.
Just one century ago, or even before WWII, it was a backwater. Its grandiosity only started with the oil boom.
Muslim caliph never considered mecca as important. Nobody fought over it. Nor bothered to turn it into a large city. Nor mention if they had performed the haj like what current muslims doing. Its like mecca just rose yo prominent just recently.
They were all fighting for jerusalem, damascus, baghdad, egypt. Those were areas of relevance. The food baskets. Fertile crescent.
Nor mention if they had performed the haj like what current muslims doing.
So those tangki like Monkey god, beggar god, Nacha, goddess of mercy, etc. Also 100 man/god?
Which bible u read?
This is what mentioned in the Quran.
And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." (Q2:125)
I am not anti-muslim. I am anti anyone who subscribes to ancient fairy tales, takes them as absolute truth, makes it their life guiding principle and goes around murdering in the name of, to start "holy wars" in the name of. The muslims and christians were guilty of it during the medieval period. In the 21st century, the muslims are still at it. If that's not stupid and hateful, I don't know what is.I have known several converts at Darul Arqam. They used to be anti-Islam. Just like you. So we Muslims, can only share and deliver the message of Islam here. The rest is up to Allah s.w.t.
NIV and King James
Which version of the quran you read? The standardized 1924 Cairo version? Or some other version?
I highly doubt Abraham ever walked all the way to mecca. The arabian religion is basically a ripoff of the Bible and the Torah, with locations changed to fit a more arabic audience.
You should those tangki. Maybe one of their religion's scholars can explain to you.
I am not anti-muslim. I am anti anyone who subscribes to ancient fairy tales, takes them as absolute truth, makes it their life guiding principle and goes around murdering in the name of, to start "holy wars" in the name of. The muslims and christians were guilty of it during the medieval period. In the 21st century, the muslims are still at it. If that's not stupid and hateful, I don't know what is.
I believe the soul is eternal, and there exists a spiritual world. And that each religion tries to explain the meaning of life and where we go after this life, according to its founder's interpretation of "truth". And the founder or founders were just as human as us, with faults and weaknesses. Hence, organised religion is bs for the most part. And bad for civilisation because it causes division, destruction and unnecessary deaths. I like to think of myself as being spiritual. So I am not really an atheist. Perhaps an agnostic? But one thing's for certain, I don't subscribe to any organised religion.I would say things get worst after Sept 11. Suicide bombing. Seldom/never heard of before 9/11. Only know tamil tigers did that. No thanks to US/Nato/West invasion of Iraq, war in Egypt, Lybia, Syria etc.
Allah s.w.t created Jinns and humans to worship HIM. Unlike the angels, both species, Jinns/Humans are given the choice to accept Allah or to reject HIS religion. You say fairy tales that means you dont believe in the unseen? Spiritual world?
Why read kjv? Don't you know kjv copied and translated from the Catholic bible? Should you be reading the most original bible?And kjv threw out 6 books from there? Imaging the insolence, throwing out the words of god! HahahaNIV and King James
All I see are the original Quran. Even your scholars admit that. You're too desperate to equate your corrupted bible to the Quran. HahahaWhich version of the quran you read? The standardized 1924 Cairo version? Or some other version?
Ask the Jews they know better. Even they admit the name of Muhammad is in their Hebrew Torah.I highly doubt Abraham ever walked all the way to mecca. The arabian religion is basically a ripoff of the Bible and the Torah, with locations changed to fit a more arabic audience.
True.Maybe trillion dollar.
Just one century ago, or even before WWII, it was a backwater. Its grandiosity only started with the oil boom.
Muslim caliph never considered mecca as important.
Nobody fought over it. Nor bothered to turn it into a large city. Nor mention if they had performed the haj like what current muslims doing. Its like mecca just rose yo prominent just recently.
They were all fighting for jerusalem, damascus, baghdad, egypt. Those were areas of relevance. The food baskets. Fertile crescent.
I believe the soul is eternal, and there exists a spiritual world. And that each religion tries to explain the meaning of life and where we go after this life, according to its founder's interpretation of "truth". And the founder or founders were just as human as us, with faults and weaknesses. Hence, organised religion is bs for the most part. And bad for civilisation because it causes division, destruction and unnecessary deaths. I like to think of myself as being spiritual. So I am not really an atheist. Perhaps an agnostic? But one thing's for certain, I don't subscribe to any organised religion.
This is good reading - https://chopra.com/articles/religion-vs-spirituality-the-difference-between-them
Teres only one version i.e. in our head. All hafiz memorised only one version. You go to any mosque, pick up any Quran, any part of the world. All similar. 114 surahs. Go try it if you dont believe me. Seeing is believing physically. Go Spore, Msia, Indon, Thailand Mosque etc. Just pick any Quran and go compare.
I am not anti-muslim. I am anti anyone who subscribes to ancient fairy tales, takes them as absolute truth, makes it their life guiding principle and goes around murdering in the name of, to start "holy wars" in the name of. The muslims and christians were guilty of it during the medieval period. In the 21st century, the muslims are still at it. If that's not stupid and hateful, I don't know what is.