Jialat.....China Hints Its Troops Could Be Used to Quell Hong Kong Protests

[Johnrambo]

Warning that protests convulsing Hong Kong were crossing a line, China hinted broadly on Wednesday that it was prepared to use military force in the territory if necessary to retain Beijing’s control.

“The behavior of some radical protesters challenges the central government’s authority, touching on the bottom line principle of ‘one country, two systems,’” said the chief spokesman for the Ministry of National Defense, Senior Col. Wu Qian. “That absolutely cannot be tolerated.”

It was both the most explicit warning to date since protests began in the former British colony and a stark reminder of who has ultimate control over Hong Kong’s fate.

Colonel Wu made the comments at a briefing in Beijing on a government document outlining China’s defense strategy. Citing protests on Sunday outside the central government’s liaison office in Hong Kong, which protesters splattered with paint and defaced with graffiti, he made clear that the vandalism was straining Beijing’s patience.

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[laksaboy]

And that will be the day the People's Republic of China commits suicide.

 

[yinyang]

Will the PLA do anything on their outsourced triad (white shirted) goons?

 

[glockman]

China sends troops in. UK will send their troops to defend their former colony. US will join in (because UK and US are gay partners). Russia will join in (because Putin can't let US and UK have the spot light). WW3, yay! And they say it will begin in the middle east, pffff.

 

[AhMeng]

China sends troops in. UK will send their troops to defend their former colony. US will join in (because UK and US are gay partners). Russia will join in (because Putin can't let US and UK have the spot light). WW3, yay! And they say it will begin in the middle east, pffff.

Nothing will happen lah. The West bo seed one lah.

 

[glockman]

Nothing will happen lah. The West bo seed one lah.

Really ah? Damn it!

 

[Rogue Trader]

the Chinese are developing riot drones. if they become a reality, HK will be the first place they get deployed

 

[greedy and cunning]

no countr
Nothing will happen lah. The West bo seed one lah.

no worry bro,
even if china do send in troop
other countries would not intervene
and china is not committing suicide

if the happens in in the 90s
yes , china would be shooting itself
as it depends on HK as a stepping stone for foreign companies
wanting to setup factories and offices in china.
china was using banks in hk to facilitate the transfer of money.

bro , now is 2019 ,
many still sleeping
or their thinking is clouded by bias and prejudice

 

[AhMeng]

bro , now is 2019 ,
many still sleeping
or their thinking is clouded by bias and prejudice

Yep, one has to go to tier 1 cities like beijing shanghai to see the transformation of cheenaland. It's no longer the cheenaland of the 90s. For me, it's quite scary sometimes, to see how much the tier 1 cities have changed since the 80s, the people, urbanisation, wealth, the entertainment, movie, drama and tv productions, and the amount of bulk labour they have, to sustain and keep on moving. Hong Kong like Singapore, have remained relatively stagnant. Anyway, No point arguing here. Only time will tell what will happen, for good, for bad or for worse

 

[laksaboy]

Chicoms' bark is worse than their bite. The Tiananmen days are long gone. They know the negative economic repercussions.

It's just a show of bravado to coincide with Li Peng's death.

 

[winnipegjets]

I hope to see the invasion of HK by the Ah Tiong army.

 

[eatshitndie]

when it cums to killing chinks or their own kind, chicoms are the best!

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Hong Kong police fire tear gas after protesters defy Yuen Long ban
Updated earlier today at 3:06am

PHOTO: Demonstrators marched in defiance against the Yuen Long attacks last weekend. (Reuters: Tyrone Siu)
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Police in Hong Kong fired tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters defying official warnings not to march in a neighbourhood where, six days earlier, a mob had brutally attacked people in a train station.

Key points:

• Protesters streamed through Yuen Long, even though police refused to grant permission for the march
• Three hours after the march started, police fired tear gas to disperse the crowd
• Protesters chanted "Hong Kong police know the law and break the law"

Protesters wearing black streamed through Yuen Long, even though police had refused to grant permission for the march citing risks of confrontations between demonstrators and local residents.

For the protesters, it was a show of defiance against the white-clad assailants who beat dozens of people last Sunday night, including some demonstrators heading home after the latest mass protest in the summer-long pro-democracy movement.

Police said some of the attackers at the train station were connected to triad gangs and others were villagers who live in the area.

The streets of Yuen Long became a sea of umbrellas as the march began on Saturday afternoon.

A symbol going back to the Occupy Central protests that shook Hong Kong in 2014, umbrellas have become tools to help protesters conceal their identities from police cameras as well as shields against tear gas and pepper spray.

Some also wore masks to obscure their faces.

PHOTO: The Government warned protesters that police would move in to break up the demonstration. (Reuters: Edgar Su)


"Hong Kong police know the law and break the law," protesters chanted as they made their way through the streets.

Hong Kong's public transit network had announced that its trains would not be making their usual stops in Yuen Long on Saturday.

Several businesses and public facilities were closed in anticipation of the march. Service at a nursing centre was temporarily suspended, and sports venues shut down early.

Violence escalates as protesters built barricades
PHOTO: Demonstrators used shields and umbrellas to protect themselves during the protests. (Reuters: Edgar Su)


A few hours before the march started, a man was arrested in Yuen Long for injuring someone with a knife, police said.

Less than three hours after the start of the march, police fired tear gas to try to disperse the crowd.

The government issued a statement at around the same time warning that police would move in to break up the demonstration.

PHOTO: Police officers fired tear gas at demonstrators during the protest. (Reuters: Tyrone Siu)


The statement said some protesters were "holding iron poles, self-made shields and even removing fences from roads," and that some had surrounded and vandalised a police vehicle with officers inside.

Earlier, the government said in another statement that police were concerned about a "possible deterioration of the situation."

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"Police appeal to members of the public to stay calm and leave the area as soon as possible as a chaotic scene may ensue within a short period of time," the earlier statement said.​

The violence escalated as protesters built barricades out of street furniture and umbrellas, throwing rocks and bottles.

Many armed themselves with hiking sticks and improvised shields from wood, surfboards, cardboard and other materials.

Police, widely criticised for failing to better protect the public from last weekend's attack, responded with tear gas, rubber bullets and sponge grenades, a crowd control weapon.

Police wearing heavy-duty helmets and wielding batons forcefully removed protesters from the closed Yuen Long train station after a few hundred people took refuge there from the tear gas.

PHOTO: Police forcefully removed protesters who took shelter in Yuen Long train station. (AP: Eric Tsang)


Some officers swung their batons at protesters, prompting them to scream and run.

Earlier, witnesses saw a hard core group of activists with small metal bats, metal and wooden poles and slingshots moving against the human tide.

Several hundred protesters remained as dark fell, fighting with police in the train station, where blood could be seen spattered on the floor.

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PHOTO: Protesters labelled the demonstration a "shopping trip" to counter police objections. (Reuters: Edgar Su)


Massive demonstrations began in Hong Kong early last month against an extradition bill that would have allowed suspects to face trial in mainland China, where critics say their rights would be compromised.

The bill was eventually suspended, but protesters' demands have grown to include direct elections, the dissolution of the current legislature and an investigation into alleged police brutality in the Chinese territory.

A former British colony, Hong Kong was returned to China in 1997 under the framework of "one country, two systems".

From optimism to a siege

Following Hong Kong's handover to China in 1997, relations between the mainland and the autonomous territory have plummeted. Now anti-Chinese sentiment is at an all-time high.


The arrangement promises the city certain democratic freedoms that are not afforded mainland citizens, but some residents say these liberties have been steadily eroded in recent years after the arrests of booksellers and democracy activists.

A distrust of China's Communist Party-led central government in Beijing has bolstered the protests this summer.

After last Sunday's march, a group of protesters vandalised Hong Kong's Liaison Office, which represents the mainland government.

They spray-painted the building's surveillance cameras and threw eggs and black ink at the Chinese national emblem, an act that Beijing has vehemently condemned.

In response to the police's objection to Saturday's march in Yuen Long, protesters have cheekily labelled the procession a "shopping trip," as well as a memorial service for former Chinese premier Li Peng, who died on Monday.

Li was a hard-liner best known for announcing martial law during the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests that ended in bloodshed.

PHOTO: A demonstrator is seen injured during the protest against the Yuen Long attacks. (Reuters: Tyrone Siu)


Some Yuen Long residents participated in the march, while others stood outside with signs warning protesters not to enter. Demonstrators pasted calls for democracy on sticky notes around the area.

"After the violence (last Sunday), as a resident of Yuen Long, I think I have the responsibility to come out," said a 24-year-old man surnamed Man.

"After all these protests in past months, the government still hasn't responded to us."

AP

 

[winnipegjets]

China will order Lam to use lethal force on the protestors. PLA won't come in yet until Carey Lam chicken out. So far, Lam will do whatever her master tells her to do. Will she order the HK Police to fire at the protesters?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

no worry bro,
even if china do send in troop
other countries would not intervene
and china is not committing suicide

if the happens in in the 90s
yes , china would be shooting itself
as it depends on HK as a stepping stone for foreign companies
wanting to setup factories and offices in china.
china was using banks in hk to facilitate the transfer of money.

bro , now is 2019 ,
many still sleeping
or their thinking is clouded by bias and prejudice

Actually alot of MNCs are establishing directly in ah tiong land. HK is irrelevant

 

[greedy and cunning]

Nothing will happen lah. The West bo seed one lah.

one of the sensible remarks
i heard so far.

 

[steffychun]

Just nuke Hong Kong. China doesn't need this former colony of the AMDK.

 

[KuanTi01]

The Hong Kong rioters are deliberately and desperately trying hard to get Beijing to be involved. That's the overall objective of their behind-the-scenes backers and financiers.

 

[syed putra]

Yep, one has to go to tier 1 cities like beijing shanghai to see the transformation of cheenaland. It's no longer the cheenaland of the 90s. For me, it's quite scary sometimes, to see how much the tier 1 cities have changed since the 80s, the people, urbanisation, wealth, the entertainment, movie, drama and tv productions, and the amount of bulk labour they have, to sustain and keep on moving. Hong Kong like Singapore, have remained relatively stagnant. Anyway, No point arguing here. Only time will tell what will happen, for good, for bad or for worse

Tbe only reason hong kong is still relevant is for its finance and legal matters based on anglo saxon law.
Its electtical, electronic, garments, shoes and toy msnufacturers moved to shenzhen thirty years ago and helped propel pearl river delta region into the economic might it is today.
By invading hong kong, china may destroy that sanctity.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Asia'Now or never': Hong Kong protesters say they have nothing to lose
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A protester throws a tear gas cartridge during clashes with police in Sham Shui Po in Hong Kong on Aug 14, 2019. (Photo: Reuters/Thomas Peter)
28 Aug 2019 08:58AM (Updated: 28 Aug 2019 11:34AM)
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HONG KONG: Exasperated with the government's unflinching attitude to escalating civil unrest, Jason Tse quit his job in Australia and jumped on a plane to join what he believes is a do-or-die fight for Hong Kong's future.
The Chinese territory is grappling with its biggest crisis since its handover to Beijing 22 years ago as many residents fret over what they see as China's tightening grip over the city and a relentless march towards mainland control.

READ: Hong Kong violence becoming more serious, but government in control: Carrie Lam

The battle for Hong Kong's soul has pitted protesters against the former British colony's political masters in Beijing, with broad swathes of the Asian financial centre determined to defend the territory's freedoms at any cost.
Faced with a stick and no carrot - Chief Executive Carrie Lam reiterated on Tuesday (Aug 27) protesters' demands were unacceptable - the pro-democracy movement has intensified despite Beijing deploying paramilitary troops near the border in recent weeks.



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"This is a now or never moment and it is the reason why I came back," Tse, 32, said, adding that since joining the protests last month he had been a peaceful participant in rallies and an activist on the Telegram social media app.
"If we don't succeed now, our freedom of speech, our human rights, all will be gone. We need to persist."
READ: 'You don’t know what you are doing': Hong Kong’s older generation hits back as protests turn violent

Since the city returned to Chinese rule in 1997, critics say Beijing has reneged on a commitment to maintain Hong Kong's autonomy and freedoms under a "one country, two systems" formula.
Opposition to Beijing that had dwindled after 2014, when authorities faced down a pro-democracy movement that occupied streets for 79 days, has come back to haunt authorities who are now grappling with an escalating cycle of violence.
"We have to keep fighting. Our worst fear is the Chinese government," said a 40-year-old teacher who declined to be identified for fear of repercussions.
"For us, it's a life or death situation."

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Police officers point their guns at protesters in Tseun Wan in Hong Kong on Aug 25, 2019. (Photo: AFP/Lillian Suwanrumpha)

"IF WE BURN, YOU BURN"
What started as protests against a now-suspended extradition Bill that would have allowed people to be sent to mainland China for trial in courts controlled by the Communist Party, has evolved into demands for greater democracy.
"We lost the revolution in 2014 very badly. This time, if not for the protesters who insist on using violence, the Bill would have been passed already," said another protester, who asked to be identified as just Mike, 30, who works in media and lives with his parents.
He was referring to the 79 days of largely peaceful protests in 2014 that led to the jailing of activist leaders.
"It's proven that violence, to some degree, will be useful."
READ: 180 Hong Kong police officers injured, families 'bullied and intimidated'

Nearly 900 people have been arrested in the latest protests. The prospect of lengthy jail terms seems to be deterring few activists, many of whom live in tiny apartments with their families.
"7K for a house like a cell and you really think we out here scared of jail," reads graffiti scrawled near one protest site. HK$7,000 (US$893) is what the monthly rent for a tiny room in a shared apartment could cost.

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A protester throws a Molotov cocktail as protesters clash with riot police during a rally at Tsuen Wan in Hong Kong on Aug 25, 2019. (Photo: Reuters/Tyrone Siu)

The protests pose a direct challenge to Chinese leader Xi Jinping, whose government has sent a clear warning that forceful intervention to quell violent demonstrations is possible.
Some critics question the protesters' "now or never" rallying cry, saying a crackdown by Beijing could bring an end to the freedoms in Hong Kong that people on the mainland can only dream of.
The campaign reflects concerns over Hong Kong's future at a time when protesters, many of whom were toddlers when Britain handed Hong Kong back to Beijing, feel they have been denied any political outlet and have no choice but to push for universal suffrage.
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"You either stand up and pull this government down or you stay at the mercy of their hands. You have no choice," said Cheng, 28, who works in the hospitality industry.
"Imagine if this fails. You can only imagine the dictatorship of the Communists will become even greater ... If we burn, you burn with us," he said, referring to authorities in Beijing.
"The clock is ticking," Cheng added, referring to 2047 when a 50-year agreement enshrining Hong Kong's separate governing system will lapse.
READ: Hong Kong's 'borrowed time' - worry about 2047 hangs over protests
"NOT CHINA"
As Beijing seeks to integrate Hong Kong closer to mainland China, many residents are recoiling.
A poll in June by the University of Hong Kong found that 53 per cent of 1,015 respondents identified as Hong Kongers, while 11 per cent identified as Chinese, a record low since 1997.
With the prospect of owning a home in one of the world's most expensive cities a dream, many disaffected youth say they have little to look forward to as Beijing's grip tightens.
"We really have got nothing to lose," said Scarlett, 23, a translator.
READ: 'Too scared to buy ice cream for my son': Hong Kong protests leave some residents looking for an exit

As the crisis simmers, China's People's Liberation Army has released footage of troops conducting anti-riot exercises.
But graffiti scrawled across the city signals the protesters' defiance.
"Hong Kong is not China" and "If you want peace, prepare for war" are some of the messages.

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Policemen stand in front of graffiti on the walls of the Legislative Council, a day after protesters broke into the building in Hong Kong on Jul 2, 2019. (Photo: Reuters/Jorge Silva)

Tse said he believes violence is necessary because the government rarely listens to peaceful protests.
"Tactically I think we should have a higher level of violence," he said. "I actually told my wife that if we'll ever need to form an army on the protester side I will join."

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