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Jesus is the best (Hokkien)

The Christians know their God and his son Jesus are universal and they will understand any language. And the Italians (Romans) didn't create Jesus, in fact they crucified Him brutally on the cross.

Jesus did not die on the cross he died at age 63 in London, in front of St Peter Catheral. He was killed by the Roman who hunted him down (as a rebel).

Who died on the cross? Simon a susbstitute. It was Jesus twin brother, Thomas Khetras, a prince line of King David and a army commander of a Jewish revolt army. Thomas was caught and send to Pontius Pilate (as in the Bible story) to be judged. In those days a Prince (from a King blood line) can trade his life and find a subsititue to die for him if he committed a crime against Roman. So the subsitute was Simon as in the Bible. Both twin did not die as in the Bible nor did Jesus died at age 33.

Wait these aunties find out the truth, they will kpkb and curse that those introduce Bible to them.
 
Jesus did not die on the cross he died at age 63 in London, in front of St Peter Catheral. He was killed by the Roman who hunted him down (as a rebel).

Who died on the cross? Simon a susbstitute. It was Jesus twin brother, Thomas Khetras, a prince line of King David and a army commander of a Jewish revolt army. Thomas was caught and send to Pontius Pilate (as in the Bible story) to be judged. In those days a Prince (from a King blood line) can trade his life and find a subsititue to die for him if he committed a crime against Roman. So the subsitute was Simon as in the Bible. Both twin did not die as in the Bible nor did Jesus died at age 33.

Wait these aunties find out the truth, they will kpkb and curse that those introduce Bible to them.

Muslim version. Jesus was supposed to be crucifixed but Allah saved Him and substituted him with another on the crucifix. Muslims believe that Jesus as a Prophet of God hasn't died yet, and there'll be a Second Coming. Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus too. After Allah saved Jesus, Allah sent Muhammad as the Last Prophet bearing the Message.
 
Muslim version. Jesus was supposed to be crucifixed but Allah saved Him and substituted him with another on the crucifix. Muslims believe that Jesus as a Prophet of God hasn't died yet, and there'll be a Second Coming. Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus too. After Allah saved Jesus, Allah sent Muhammad as the Last Prophet bearing the Message.

so..who is the real god ?
 
so..who is the real god ?

There's only one God. The God of Adam and Abraham in the Bible and the Qur'an is one and the same. The Jews call Him Yahweh, the Christians call him Jehovah and the Muslims call him Allah. It's just a matter of language, culture and reference. It's like when you call this guy Kuan Yew or Harry, he's still the same person you're referring to.
 
Muslim version. Jesus was supposed to be crucifixed but Allah saved Him and substituted him with another on the crucifix. Muslims believe that Jesus as a Prophet of God hasn't died yet, and there'll be a Second Coming. Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus too. After Allah saved Jesus, Allah sent Muhammad as the Last Prophet bearing the Message.

mix chinese vegetable rice version....

Yesua went drinking and ktv-ing every night and died of alcohol (wine) poisoning....
 
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There's only one God. The God of Adam and Abraham in the Bible and the Qur'an is one and the same. The Jews call Him Yahweh, the Christians call him Jehovah and the Muslims call him Allah. It's just a matter of language, culture and reference. It's like when you call this guy Kuan Yew or Harry, he's still the same person you're referring to.

then what about some chinese believe in guan yin mah or tau ya pei ? ;)
 
I thought it was the Jews who crucified Jesus not the Romans.

You are quite correct too. Pontius Pilot asked the jews whom they wish to have released, Jesus or a murderer named Barnabas. They chose the latter cos the Jewish high priests saw Jesus as a threat to their standing. Till today the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah. This is what Christians believe from the Bible.
 
Jesus did not die on the cross he died at age 63 in London, in front of St Peter Catheral. He was killed by the Roman who hunted him down (as a rebel).

Who died on the cross? Simon a susbstitute. It was Jesus twin brother, Thomas Khetras, a prince line of King David and a army commander of a Jewish revolt army. Thomas was caught and send to Pontius Pilate (as in the Bible story) to be judged. In those days a Prince (from a King blood line) can trade his life and find a subsititue to die for him if he committed a crime against Roman. So the subsitute was Simon as in the Bible. Both twin did not die as in the Bible nor did Jesus died at age 33.

Wait these aunties find out the truth, they will kpkb and curse that those introduce Bible to them.

Whoa! I am surprised you forgot to mention that Jesus was run over by a London bus. For the sake of Christians I hope you are not preaching anywhere. You have read the wrong book.

Do you believe in Nostradamus too?
 
so..who is the real god ?

The Christians believe the real God sent His son Jesus down to this earth the first time to save believers. He (Jesus) will come again to judge all mankind, living and dead.
 
then what about some chinese believe in guan yin mah or tau ya pei ? ;)

Religion is usually a choice except for Muslims. If you are born into a Muslim family, you would be a Muslim. Those who changed to another religion could be ostracized or even killed. You can see it happening.

Another point of interest is that the Jews and Christians in Arabia had called their God by the name Allah for more than five hundred years before Muhamed.
 
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The Christians believe the real God sent His son Jesus down to this earth the first time to save believers. He (Jesus) will come again to judge all mankind, living and dead.

If you beleive in Jesus will judge all mankind, you might as well drive ferrari and wear Armani suits only. Jesus as God, is Italian version of their new God, you wear Italian Armani suits make you feel nice but expensive to buy and with their God you can go th heaven (over Italian Alps and sky).
 
If you beleive in Jesus will judge all mankind, you might as well drive ferrari and wear Armani suits only. Jesus as God, is Italian version of their new God, you wear Italian Armani suits make you feel nice but expensive to buy and with their God you can go th heaven (over Italian Alps and sky).

Sorry bro, I can't understand what you are trying to put across.
 
Sorry bro, I can't understand what you are trying to put across.

Jesus is a product of Italy (Roman) like Ferari and Armani suits. Paul, a Roman, in the Bible NT made Jesus a God died in a cross.
 
then what about some chinese believe in guan yin mah or tau ya pei ? ;)

Ancient Chinese had no gods. They prayed to Heaven, Earth and deceased ancestors, and the practice of seeking divination with ying-yang pakkua.The idea of pagan idolatry making gods out of clay, bronze, silver or gold was imported with Buddhism along with its Hindu roots and influences.
 
I thought it was the Jews who crucified Jesus not the Romans.

Obviously you do not know your history or the BIBLE...Rome occupied the lands in which the Jews were living in, Julius Ceaser sentenced Jesus Christ to hang on the cross...with accusation from the Jews that, he is inciting a rebellion...
 
Ancient Chinese had no gods. They prayed to Heaven, Earth and deceased ancestors, and the practice of seeking divination with ying-yang pakkua.The idea of pagan idolatry making gods out of clay, bronze, silver or gold was imported with Buddhism along with its Hindu roots and influences.

Idoltary did not come with Buddhism into China, you are right about the ancient Chinese....as evidenced by the tablet inscription in the heavenly temple at Tian An Men.

Toaism was already present China, when Buddhism came into China ( Cathay), that is why early Buddhism intermixed with Taoism.
 
No, it is totally wrong to say that the ancient Chinese has no gods or that Idoltry came with Buddhism's spread to China. It is also wrong to assume the worship of idols came about because of Hindu roots and influence.

During the Shang Dynasty, people already believe in animism such as god of rain, god of mountain,cave god etc..There was also already an establishment of Taoism,with the trigrams and myraid of deities(eg child spirit -Nezha, pangu,Doumu)). It is also wrong to say that making gods out of clay,gold or bronze come about only after Buddhism is spread to China. When the First Chinese emperor Qin Shihuang died, idols were moulded out of these materials that include soldiers(tera cotta army),maidens and gods that they believe can protect the emperor's spirit. This happened in 221 ++ BC which was before Buddhism enters China.

However it can be conceded that the spread of Buddhism into China greatly enhanced the cultural achievements of the Chinese in terms of artistic craftsmenship and helps China attains high degree of art form such as mural paintings and cravings(Dunhuang caves, an international icon) and precious craved print block of Buddhist Diamond sutras.This legacy of Buddhism in China and Chinese culture continues till today.

It is however a historical fact that the ancient Chinese never believe nor worship one single God or creator like Abrahamic religious beliefs. ..despite attempts by some people to associate ancient Chinese characters with Biblical connotations and that ancient Chinese people worship a single GOD. These are all subtle and hidden proselytisation efforts geared specifically towards making the conversions and thus control of the Chinese people easier ,faster and more convincingly.
 
Are those sinkie women???:eek: Gawd they're ugly.:( No wonder the country needs foreigners.

Can I give you an infraction for posting/supporting religious matters in this forum - which you liberally give to others - and going against your own rules?

For insulting fellow human beings who could be your sisters, mothers or grandmothers - and not "gentlemanly"?

For insulting another religion and possibility of creating a racial war?
 
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Watching the video with Tan Kim Kim photo is so appealing....both are full of joy!

Way to go Tan the and Hokkien platoon!
 
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