Jesus did not die on cross, says christian scholar

[Frodo]

That is up to the listener. Its true is one believes, if not, then it is untrue.

Cheers!

That is an absurd way of looking at things. Something is either true or false regardless of what anyone believes about it. Atheists aren't that rational after all.

 

[Agoraphobic]

It can be true if you believe enough of it. Just like the whole issue of religion! Look at those people burning joss sticks and other material offerings! Tell them that what they believe isn't true! Good luck! Or those who burn their dead relatives before sending them on their final voyage into the Indus River (or Ganges) tell them their beliefs aren't true! How does anybody know for sure? To the non-believer, these are merely superstitions, borne out of need and grief, and perhaps hope. To the believers, it explains everything, they don't need to ask further. It all depends which side of the fence one chooses to sit on.

Cheers!

That is an absurd way of looking at things. Something is either true or false regardless of what anyone believes about it. Atheists aren't that rational after all.

 

[Psalm23]

I would concoct a character that is so great, sacrifice every thing daily food, sex life money blah blah many idiots would be touched and adored him. I will tell them if they accept him, they would get every lasting supplies of food and virgin this and next life, I would build a mass of gong kia followers willing to empty their bank accounts for me the messenger.

Yes...you can. But who are going to be your audience? And how long will your 'believers' be touched by your concocted character?

But the character of Jesus lasted over 2000 years and over these 2000 years from great scientist like Issac Newton to big time master in slavery trade, John Newton (author of a great hymn, Amazing Grace) had been touched by the historical event of Jesus and had accepted Him as their Saviour. Even now, Christianity is growing by leaps and bound in many countries - interestingly in many communists and Muslim countries which are the chief persecutor of Christian faith. Sadly, many Western countries are started to regress and living from godly life to godless life because of satanic and demonic influences. There is now a huge revolution in the West on alternative life-style, man married man, woman married woman. Laws are passed to punish those who discriminate these people and if you believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman and if you are a owner of a bakery shop practicing your belief by refusing to sell a 'wedding' cake to a gay marriage, you can be sued or worse still, going to jail because it's a crime!

If the story of Jesus was concocted and to this day, people are still believing it to be true, I am prepared to be fooled by it if it finally turned out to be false. How could a concocted character fool people for 2000 years! This in itself a great miracle that there is no close second. There is nothing wrong to believe in a miracle.

We have many concocted heroes - superman, spiderman, tarzan - where are they now. Well, yes they are still around but in children's comic books. And that is going to be the same for your concocted story, at the very best, it will end up in children's comic books.


God Bless
Psalm 23

 

[drifteri]

My believers would be gullible cases like yourself and some apologetic idiots believing you can extend your life and those easily get uneasy with what will happen to them. For as long as is enough to fatten myself n my cronies this lifespan.

If I were a ruler, I will do better than Caesar. With the advantages of hindsights, 2000 years is over underestimated.

 

[drifteri]

If Jesus is not concoctated , he must be religiously recorded. Even lesser martyrs and lesser known personas around his time were well recorded. Can u write some of his historical events when he was from 20 to 25 years old?

 

[Frodo]

My believers would be gullible cases like yourself and some apologetic idiots believing you can extend your life and those easily get uneasy with what will happen to them. For as long as is enough to fatten myself n my cronies this lifespan.

If I were a ruler, I will do better than Caesar. With the advantages of hindsights, 2000 years is over underestimated.

Atheists like DIVA will talk big when they engage in trash talking. But to give him some credit, I am pretty sure that his followers, if he can get any, would be gullible and mindless. Just like him. LOL!

 

[Frodo]

If Jesus is not concoctated , he must be religiously recorded. Even lesser martyrs and lesser known personas around his time were well recorded. Can u write some of his historical events when he was from 20 to 25 years old?

I am certain you can concoct something up. LOL!

 

[drifteri]

That is up to the listener. Its true is one believes, if not, then it is untrue.

Cheers!

Piles of court documents holding hard evidences have failed to convince Pastor Kong Hee's followers of his proven crime in siphoning church fund to promote porno CDs of his half-naked wife. To their belief system, Kong Hee is innocent of any crime in misappropriating church fund. This is a truth

Early bible believers believed the earth is flat. So this is the truth, the devine truth. Another idiot here believes that bible critics are really fearful of its contents, then let this truth be in their minds. We know nobody will dare to criticise something he finds fearful. Lol

 

[Frodo]

Piles of court documents holding hard evidences have failed to convince Pastor Kong Hee's followers of his proven crime in siphoning church fund to promote porno CDs of his half-naked wife. To their belief system, Kong Hee is innocent of any crime in misappropriating church fund. This is a truth

Early bible believers believed the earth is flat. So this is the truth, the devine truth. Another idiot here believes that bible critics are really fearful of its contents, then let this truth be in their minds. We know nobody will dare to criticise something he finds fearful. Lol

“Early bible believers believed the earth is flat” is a flat (pun intended) out liar propagated by epic failed atheists like DIVA. If asked for documentary proof these epic failed atheists will turn strangely silent. (http://www.creationtips.com/flatearth.html ) Of course these atheists dare not question the “truth” of their beliefs in case they incur the wrath of the other failed high priests of atheism. LOL! BTW, the president of the Flat Earth Society was a firm believer in evolution (http://blog.drwile.com/?p=12379 ). Take that! LOL!

 

[drifteri]

These websites are purely faithful attempts to whitewash the bible.

If ancient people already known the earth was spherical through genesis, then galileo's discovery is nothing new and would not be considered a discovery till today. Genesis predated craptainity and the holey bible. So if Genesis really depicts a spherical earth, the ancient view should be a different one. The fact is Genesis depicts a FLAT earth, but faithful ones bend and twisted facts to their favour. Lol

 

[Frodo]

These websites are purely faithful attempts to whitewash the bible.

If ancient people already known the earth was spherical through genesis, then galileo's discovery is nothing new and would not be considered a discovery till today. Genesis predated craptainity and the holey bible. So if Genesis really depicts a spherical earth, the ancient view should be a different one. The fact is Genesis depicts a FLAT earth, but faithful ones bend and twisted facts to their favour. Lol

LOL! Another failed attempt at an ad hoc just so explanation by DIVA to cover up his ignorance. If the Bible is nothing but a man-made concocted document like what atheists like to claim, how is it that all these “errors of fact” have not been literally white-washed such that these atheists won’t find these things in the Bible at all? If atheists say that the Bible teach a flat earth, then can atheists explain how come till today no church council had change the Bible text and make it teach a round earth? What other failed ad hoc explanations would failed atheists cook up again? BTW, who is saying that Genesis teaches a round earth, or even a flat earth for that matter? Epic failed atheist DIVA must be reading things that are not there. LOL!

 

[drifteri]

If Jesus is not concoctated , he must be religiously recorded. Even lesser martyrs and lesser known personas around his time were well recorded. Can u write some of his historical events when he was from 20 to 25 years old?

Reverend, I believe you will be dead silent. Your silence is a proof that Jesus is not historical. Jesus is historical only in your belief system.

Wish you and your loved ones can can be freed from this demonic world and you are very Blessed and Happy.

 

[drifteri]

LOL! Another failed attempt at an ad hoc just so explanation by DIVA to cover up his ignorance. If the Bible is nothing but a man-made concocted document like what atheists like to claim, how is it that all these “errors of fact” have not been literally white-washed such that these atheists won’t find these things in the Bible at all? If atheists say that the Bible teach a flat earth, then can atheists explain how come till today no church council had change the Bible text and make it teach a round earth? What other failed ad hoc explanations would failed atheists cook up again? BTW, who is saying that Genesis teaches a round earth, or even a flat earth for that matter? Epic failed atheist DIVA must be reading things that are not there. LOL!

You sure anot the Genesis and the rest of the bible does not suggest a round earth? The bible text was last edited by a few hundred years ago, and the church council today does not remove uncomfortable passages like psalm 137:9.

If the bible is not a man-made concocted story, can explain why a loving god has fetish for foreskin? Why would he demand foreskin from his apostle? Why among the many human organ, foreskin is special?

 

[Frodo]

You sure anot the Genesis and the rest of the bible does not suggest a round earth? The bible text was last edited by a few hundred years ago, and the church council today does not remove uncomfortable passages like psalm 137:9.

If the bible is not a man-made concocted story, can explain why a loving god has fetish for foreskin? Why would he demand foreskin from his apostle? Why among the many human organ, foreskin is special?

DIVA must be shitting in his pants right now. LOL! Tell us why you added the words "and the rest of the Bible"? You prove to me that Genesis intended to teach about the shape of the earth lah, if you think you so "eh sai", or else you just admit you are "kana sai" to make claims about he Bible that you cannot back up, LOL!

 

[drifteri]

you are the real kana chee, hypocritical idiot.