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Israeli army video shows Hamas weapons at Al Shifa hospital
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How dumb can you be?
It's more than 5 days since they took over!
Don't tell me the stupid-propaganda virus got you?
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Hamas clever IDF clever
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weapons were planted there by idf to justify destroying more hospitals snd killing more women and children.
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As usual, fake Jews doing what they do best. Staging and lying.
Aren't they the same race?
Last time I got colleagues, one Israeli one Palestine. Sometimes I can't tell who is who.
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Muslims are very peaceful people, they won't store weapons and explosives in hospitals.
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You are one of the few wise men left in this forum.
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Shifa is freedom HQ.
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IDF killed israelis at the kibbutz and music festivals. The removed pictures as they found out it was them that killed hostages and concert goers.
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There had been reports that the administrator of the Al Shifa Hospital received a call from someone claiming to be from IDF, for the hospital to be evacuated within 1 hr today of staff & patients.
However, the IDF denied making that call.
It may had been a horrific prank call, as many of those patients need medical attention, which the IDF had not obstructed, & worse are those whom are immobile.
Or
It may had been a serious attempt to blow up the hospital by Hizbollah missiles from Lebanon or Yemen, or even within Southern Gaza, to destroy any incriminating evidences of terrorist Hamas misusing the hospital as a base, proven by the weapons & tunnel found there, with the IDF still working there to find out the extent of the military use of the hospital.
To wipe its dirty hands clean, thus the terrorists call to EVACUATE all patients there. When that is done, the missiles will be launched to destroy the hospital, which is now defined as military operational area by terrorist Hamas thru the incriminating evidences of military use found.
Thus, precautions will have to be taken.
1. Get the IDF to use its military vehicles to move the immobile patients out of the hospital, only on agreement from the hospital administrator whom will have to take responsibility for evacuation or not.
2. Standby & ALERT the IDF Missile Defense Systems to watch over Northern Gaza.
3. IDF intelligence to TRACE the call & find out WHO was either the prankster or a genuine threat, & get him/her arrested.
However, the IDF denied making that call.
It may had been a horrific prank call, as many of those patients need medical attention, which the IDF had not obstructed, & worse are those whom are immobile.
Or
It may had been a serious attempt to blow up the hospital by Hizbollah missiles from Lebanon or Yemen, or even within Southern Gaza, to destroy any incriminating evidences of terrorist Hamas misusing the hospital as a base, proven by the weapons & tunnel found there, with the IDF still working there to find out the extent of the military use of the hospital.
To wipe its dirty hands clean, thus the terrorists call to EVACUATE all patients there. When that is done, the missiles will be launched to destroy the hospital, which is now defined as military operational area by terrorist Hamas thru the incriminating evidences of military use found.
Thus, precautions will have to be taken.
1. Get the IDF to use its military vehicles to move the immobile patients out of the hospital, only on agreement from the hospital administrator whom will have to take responsibility for evacuation or not.
2. Standby & ALERT the IDF Missile Defense Systems to watch over Northern Gaza.
3. IDF intelligence to TRACE the call & find out WHO was either the prankster or a genuine threat, & get him/her arrested.
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IDF propaganda with planted weapons. One is reminded of Iraq's WMD which turned out to be a phantom. Clueless Samsters here falling for it hook, line & sinker. LOL.
The state of Israel scored a major victory in its war against the people of Gaza when it captured ‘al-Shifa’ hospital on Wednesday (November 16). Israeli soldiers, the IDF, were seen foisting their flag on the top of the hospital. Their claim was that this hospital was a cover for the military operation of Hamas. In fact, it was much more sinister than that. It was the base from which Hamas was conducting its military action. This claim made al-Shifa a ‘legitimate’ target for Israeli forces.
Just a day before the Israeli forces tightened their siege on the hospital, the Pentagon felt it necessary to justify this by claiming that it had credible intelligence inputs that al-Shifa was being used by Hamas. When asked about the source, the spokesperson refused to comment but admitted that the USA did not have its own boots on the ground. Which is to say that what it is presenting before the world as evidence is supplied by Israel and there is no independent party to verify its claims.
That Israel has been lying all along was proven after it conquered the hospital which it alleged was a military base of its enemy. It was reported by sympathetic media that “In a video filmed at al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, showed about 10 guns, ammunition, protective vests and Hamas military uniforms, some of which he said were hidden behind M.R.I. machines, others in nearby storage units and some behind what he described as a ‘blast-proof door.'” But the media platform took caution to say that, “The assertions made in the video could not be independently verified.”
No independent verification, no third party check and yet, we are asked to trust Israel. Only because NATO and the Americans say so? We are shamed if we raise doubt. And asked how can we not trust a country like Israel? Is it not the only true democracy in the Middle East? Does it not espouse the values of enlightenment? And above all, was it not wronged on October 7 and does it not have the right to defend itself? The last one seems to click all arguments.
Governments have been asking us to believe what Israel presents before us as evidence because it is a victim of Hamas – an assertion presented as truth without verification. American political scientist Norman Finkelstein rightly asked, even if slightly sarcastically, as to why “Hamas didn’t take the weapons to its command-and-control centre beneath al-Shifa. No, it decided to leave these weapons lying around in the radiology ward so as to give Israel a photo-op.”
That it was all a set up by Israel is so clear from the video that it was immediately called out and laughed at. The video was so embarrassing that the IDF quietly deleted it without any explanation.
Yesterday the claim was that Hamas was using al-Shifa as a “command centre” to hold hostages, and that they stored weapons there. Now it’s about tunnels. A senior Israeli official said that the purpose of the IDF operation at the al-Shifa hospital wasn’t to rescue hostages but to locate and expose a Hamas tunnels hub that connects the hospital with other parts of the Gaza strip.”
Lie after lie. And one after the other, they get debunked.
What is and should be treated as true by any sensible person is what independent sources, that is those who are neither Palestinian nor Israeli, have been saying. Those who have worked at al-Shifa for decades. They have been refusing Israeli claims of the hospital being a military base or cover of Hamas. But Israel’s powerful allies choose to believe its lies. Or, knowing well that Israel was lying they decided to back it. After all, are these not the same countries which had invented the truth of Iraq hoarding WMD to invade the country and destroy it?
The World Must Wake Up to Israel's Lies
Israeli propaganda is deemed necessary by its patrons or allies to justify its massacre of the Palestinian people.The state of Israel scored a major victory in its war against the people of Gaza when it captured ‘al-Shifa’ hospital on Wednesday (November 16). Israeli soldiers, the IDF, were seen foisting their flag on the top of the hospital. Their claim was that this hospital was a cover for the military operation of Hamas. In fact, it was much more sinister than that. It was the base from which Hamas was conducting its military action. This claim made al-Shifa a ‘legitimate’ target for Israeli forces.
Just a day before the Israeli forces tightened their siege on the hospital, the Pentagon felt it necessary to justify this by claiming that it had credible intelligence inputs that al-Shifa was being used by Hamas. When asked about the source, the spokesperson refused to comment but admitted that the USA did not have its own boots on the ground. Which is to say that what it is presenting before the world as evidence is supplied by Israel and there is no independent party to verify its claims.
That Israel has been lying all along was proven after it conquered the hospital which it alleged was a military base of its enemy. It was reported by sympathetic media that “In a video filmed at al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, showed about 10 guns, ammunition, protective vests and Hamas military uniforms, some of which he said were hidden behind M.R.I. machines, others in nearby storage units and some behind what he described as a ‘blast-proof door.'” But the media platform took caution to say that, “The assertions made in the video could not be independently verified.”
No independent verification, no third party check and yet, we are asked to trust Israel. Only because NATO and the Americans say so? We are shamed if we raise doubt. And asked how can we not trust a country like Israel? Is it not the only true democracy in the Middle East? Does it not espouse the values of enlightenment? And above all, was it not wronged on October 7 and does it not have the right to defend itself? The last one seems to click all arguments.
Governments have been asking us to believe what Israel presents before us as evidence because it is a victim of Hamas – an assertion presented as truth without verification. American political scientist Norman Finkelstein rightly asked, even if slightly sarcastically, as to why “Hamas didn’t take the weapons to its command-and-control centre beneath al-Shifa. No, it decided to leave these weapons lying around in the radiology ward so as to give Israel a photo-op.”
That it was all a set up by Israel is so clear from the video that it was immediately called out and laughed at. The video was so embarrassing that the IDF quietly deleted it without any explanation.
Yesterday the claim was that Hamas was using al-Shifa as a “command centre” to hold hostages, and that they stored weapons there. Now it’s about tunnels. A senior Israeli official said that the purpose of the IDF operation at the al-Shifa hospital wasn’t to rescue hostages but to locate and expose a Hamas tunnels hub that connects the hospital with other parts of the Gaza strip.”
Lie after lie. And one after the other, they get debunked.
What is and should be treated as true by any sensible person is what independent sources, that is those who are neither Palestinian nor Israeli, have been saying. Those who have worked at al-Shifa for decades. They have been refusing Israeli claims of the hospital being a military base or cover of Hamas. But Israel’s powerful allies choose to believe its lies. Or, knowing well that Israel was lying they decided to back it. After all, are these not the same countries which had invented the truth of Iraq hoarding WMD to invade the country and destroy it?
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Let's look at some of Israel's lies (some are so amateurish they make our own SID propaganda look good):
- “The ‘infamous’ calendar: They showed a paper on a wall of a hospital that they said was a ‘list of terrorist names’ – Those who read Arabic recognised it as having the days of the week written down.
- They claimed they’re sending incubators to the hospital, despite the issue being the lack of fuel needed to run said incubators, which are available anyway. Three premature babies and many ICU patients died as a result.
- They claimed that projectiles fired by Palestinian militants hit al-Shifa hospital on November 10. The NYT debunked that claim and showed that it was Israeli shelling that led to the death of 7 Palestinians there that day.
- They said they targeted a car with “terrorists” in Lebanon. It emerged that the vehicle had three little girls, their mother and grandmother. Only the mom survived the shelling.
- They showed a video of a nurse in a hospital in Gaza saying Hamas is holding people as human shields. That video was debunked as fake and that the woman was a Mexican-Israeli actor.
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Nevermind the propaganda from either side.. What counts is to eliminate Hamas so that what happened on Oct. 7 will not be repeated.
The IDF should continue with its search and destroy mission.
There shall be no armistice until all the hostages are released unharmed. If the hostages die, the conflict will be escalated until Hamas is eliminated completely.
The IDF should continue with its search and destroy mission.
There shall be no armistice until all the hostages are released unharmed. If the hostages die, the conflict will be escalated until Hamas is eliminated completely.
Watch out for those Hamas vermins disguised as doctors and nurses.
Nah. Watch your zionist sister vermin disguised as a doctor.
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Your stated objective for the IDF appears justifiable on paper.
But in reality:
1. Is it even possible to completely 'eliminate' Hamas?
2. What's the upper limit of civilian casualties acceptable for Israel to achieve this objective, if it's even achievable? Already 11,200 Palestinians have been killed so far (cf 1,200 Israelis killed by Hams on Oct 7) in the Israeli offensive. Many are sick, injured, starving, going without water or electricity and living in ramshackle conditions because their homes have been bombed to smithereens. Patients are dying in hospitals because of lack of medical supplies and even water.
By any objective measure and in the world's opinion (apart from the US & Israel), Israel's retaliation so far is already deemed disproportionate and is beginning to look a lot like ethnic cleansing instead of just seeking to wipe out Hamas. Just so, South Africa, itself no stranger to repression and apartheid, has just applied to ICC to try Israel for war crimes.
After taking over the hospital for several day, planting their own "evidence". Now then zionist army invite journalists to the hospital. 
Israeli Army Takes Journalists on Controlled Visit to Gaza Hospital
https://news.yahoo.com/israeli-army-takes-journalists-controlled-170624630.html
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