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Is LHL Serious about Re-taking Aljunied GRC?

After LTK's move from Hougang into a GRC, I believe the strategy of having incumbents move around is no longer needed.
 
On the contrary, PAP has one of the best ground reading machinery in the world. They conceded defeat of Aljunied on nomination day, not until polling day, if you know to read the message. Well, the message has to be face-saving politically of course. We'll have to learn how to decipher it. ;)

I am surprised that you think the pap conceded defeat on Nomination Day. The PAP was vigorously campaigning for Aljunied during the Campaign period and certainly didnt show that they had conceded defeat. In fact GY promised to lead change from within. Was that a sign of defeat concession? I think not!
 
On the contrary, PAP has one of the best ground reading machinery in the world. They conceded defeat of Aljunied on nomination day, not until polling day, if you know to read the message. Well, the message has to be face-saving politically of course. We'll have to learn how to decipher it. ;)

Hi Ramseth. I am curious about how one can know the end result on nomination day when there are about 150k electorates to consider.
 
Hi Ramseth. I am curious about how one can know the end result on nomination day when there are about 150k electorates to consider.

Ah Ram will get stuck here, over your question. Let me help him out. Public Reaction surveys are done by a government entity. Scroobal will agree with me on this. Perhaps the results were overwhelmingly in favour of the WP.
 
Ah Ram will get stuck here, over your question. Let me help him out. Public Reaction surveys are done by a government entity. Scroobal will agree with me on this. Perhaps the results were overwhelmingly in favour of the WP.

Interesting. I wonder what are the contents in those public reaction surveys. Are we privy to those surveys?
 
Hi Ramseth. I am curious about how one can know the end result on nomination day when there are about 150k electorates to consider.

I spoke to LKY at the same nomination centre. His said never mind losing a GRC when the WP Aljunied team from another nomination centre was announced live on TV. I took it as conceding defeat, wouldn't you? From the mouth of LKY himself. Uncle Yap was there too. But he chickened out, dared not talk to LKY, just spying and fooling around. ;)

Incredibly beyond my expectation, LKY actually said the same thing to the media too a couple of days later, well before polling day. You go figure. :rolleyes:
 
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If it exists, then; by right "yes, the public has right to such info", but by left "you didn't ask":D

Interesting. I wonder what are the contents in those public reaction surveys. Are we privy to those surveys?
 
Ah Ram will get stuck here, over your question. Let me help him out. Public Reaction surveys are done by a government entity. Scroobal will agree with me on this. Perhaps the results were overwhelmingly in favour of the WP.

Surveys are not rocket science. They only give an indication of the expected outcome. For GE 2011, the pap knew they had a tough fight at Aljunied. But I dont think they expect to lose 45% to 55%. It was a humiliation they didnt expect
 
Interesting. I wonder what are the contents in those public reaction surveys. Are we privy to those surveys?

Surveys are only useful when the questions are rightly formulated and the sample size are large enough and the sampled population well spread out.

The pap is known to skew the sample population and sample variety to engineer the survey outcome to want to see. Self deception!! The result is the pap was shocked by the peoples' anger against the PAP..they said it caught them by surprise. It was because they have been living in self delusion and self deception. If they dont wake up, GE 2016 will be a greater shock
 
I spoke to LKY at the same nomination centre. His said never mind losing a GRC when the WP Aljunied team from another nomination centre was announced live on TV. I took it as conceding defeat, wouldn't you? From the mouth of LKY himself. Uncle Yap was there too. But he chickened out, dared not talk to LKY, just spying and fooling around. ;)

It is incredible that you have such intimate access to LKY during Nomination Day
 
I spoke to LKY at the same nomination centre. His said never mind losing a GRC when the WP Aljunied team from another nomination centre was announced live on TV. I took it as conceding defeat, wouldn't you? From the mouth of LKY himself. Uncle Yap was there too. But he chickened out, dared not talk to LKY, just spying and fooling around. ;)

Incredibly beyond my expectation, LKY actually said the same thing to the media too a couple of days later, well before polling day. You go figure. :rolleyes:

I would love to have a conversation with Lee Senior before he kicks the bucket. I have never even seen Lee Senior in person despite living near Oxley Road throughout my life.
 
Surveys are only useful when the questions are rightly formulated and the sample size are large enough and the sampled population well spread out.

The pap is known to skew the sample population and sample variety to engineer the survey outcome to want to see. Self deception!! The result is the pap was shocked by the peoples' anger against the PAP..they said it caught them by surprise. It was because they have been living in self delusion and self deception. If they dont wake up, GE 2016 will be a greater shock

Maybe the sampling groups are those from the grassroots organisation, namely CCCs, RCs, and etc. This could explain why the reaction on the ground caught the people in PAP by surprise despite getting favourable finding from their "survey". :)
 
Maybe the sampling groups are those from the grassroots organisation, namely CCCs, RCs, and etc. This could explain why the reaction on the ground caught the people in PAP by surprise despite getting favourable finding from their "survey". :)

Possibly... the PAP was indeed caught by surprise this year. If their survey was carried out well, this wont have happened
 
It is incredible that you have such intimate access to LKY during Nomination Day

Nothing's incredible when it's real. Lily Neo was there too and I enjoyed chatting with her. LKY was just courtesy sideline chat, give him face. All of us were locked inside the the nomination centre for more than three hours, that's procedural. What the hell else had we got to do beside chatting each other up. We're all humans after all, including LKY. He's not god. He's just a tough old man, that I'd give it to him anytime.
 
I would love to have a conversation with Lee Senior before he kicks the bucket. I have never even seen Lee Senior in person despite living near Oxley Road throughout my life.

not worth it now. treat what LKY says nowadays with a huge dose of salt
 
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