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Is he talking war or peace? Shinzo Abe comments on 'pre-war UK, Germany' irk Chinese

nutbush

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as usual, this piece of news was not in our local pap mouthpiece, kowtow to jap, that's what pap is good at.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china-insi...-comparison-sino-japanese-tensions-uk-germany

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s comments during his trip to the World Economic Forum comparing Sino-Japanese tensions with Britain and Germany’s relationship prior to the first world war has sparked heated discussions within the Chinese online community.

In response to a question posed by the Financial Times in Davos on Wednesday night about whether a war between China and Japan was “conceivable”, Abe compared the tensions between the two countries with that of Britain and Germany prior to 1914, who despite having a strong trading relationship were not prevented from going to war.

Abe was quoted by the blog as observing that China and Japan were now in a “similar situation”.

Abe’s remarks on Britain and Germany echoed the oft-quoted Chinese description of Sino-Japanese relations as “politically cold and economically hot,” outlining the phenomenon that while the two countries maintain a thriving trade volume which reached US$312.5 billion in 2013, tensions between China and Japan are currently the greatest they have been in years.

A bitter row between the two nations over disputed islets in the East China Sea continues with frequent reports of confrontations between military ships and scrambled jets. The relationship has also been damaged by rows over historic issues during the second world war, and more recently the Japanese leader’s controversial visit in December to the Yasukuni Shrine, a shrine that honours Japan’s war dead, including indicted war criminals.

Abe, the first Japanese prime minister to deliver the keynote address at the forum, said: “I paid respect to those people who perished in the war for the nation…which I believed is something quite natural for a leader of any country in the world.”

He also called for military restraint in Asia. “We must ... restrain military expansion in Asia, which could otherwise go unchecked,” he said.

“Military budgets should be made completely transparent and there should be public disclosure in a form that can be verified," Abe added in remarks apparently alluding to China.

Abe’s comments drew a barrage of criticisms from online users in China.

“Is this a challenge from Japan to China?” one online user questioned on his microblog.

“Even if China really publicised its military budget, Japan wouldn’t believe it anyway,” another said.

Others viewed Abe’s remarks on his Yasukuni Shrine visit as an excuse for refusing to apologise for the Japanese invasion of China during the second world war.



One user said Abe should be allowed to visit the shrine as long as he “kneels in front of the memorial hall of the victims of the Nanjing Massacre in the second world war”, as former West German Chancellor Willy Brandt did during a 1970 visit to a monument in Warsaw, Poland to the victims of the Ghetto Uprising of 1943.

“Abe’s remarks are a counterstrike towards Chinese diplomats’ worldwide condemnations of him,” Richard Hu, an associate professor of the University of Hong Kong who specialises in East Asian international relations, said in an interview with the South China Morning Post on Thursday.

China and Japan have been engaged in a war of words since Abe’s controversial visit to the war shine. Chinese diplomats overseas have taken to international media to denounce the move, writing newspaper editorials condemning the visit in nearly 40 countries.

“So I think this is his [Abe] essential agenda in going to Davos,” Hu said.
 

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Re: Is he talking war or peace? Shinzo Abe comments on 'pre-war UK, Germany' irk Chin

I hope the Japs get round to whipping Chinese arse again soon. Those damned Commies need to be taught a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.
 

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They and which army?


I hope the Japs get round to whipping Chinese arse again soon. Those damned Commies need to be taught a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.
 

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Proof that Ang Mohs are quite STEWpig
Going to war over assassination of inconsequential Duke
Chinese are much more sophisticated
Sun Tzu said war must be to attain strategic objectives
Never because of anger or what not


Stop likening China to 1914 Germany

"The streets were all crowded with civilians and their wives, cheering us [soldiers] on, bombarding us with flowers from café terraces, railway stations, crowded churches. You never saw so many patriots in all your life!"

That is from the opening scene of Louis-Ferdinand Celine's classic Journey to the End of the Night, in which he describes how Parisians went crazy with joy when war was first declared in 1914. Such scenes were repeated in virtually all the major European capitals, where La Belle Epoque, during which Europeans enjoyed unprecedented advances in science, technology and standards of living, had bored everyone. We, too, have had extraordinary advances in all these categories of life, especially in newly developed countries in Asia. But there is at least one respect in which we are much wiser than Europeans a century ago. No one wants a war now, and everyone appreciates how destructive it would be.

The rise of modern China has of late been compared to Wilhelmine Germany. But such "learning" from history may be more misleading than illuminating. Those who insist on the wrong lessons from history are bound to make even worse mistakes. For one thing, no one in China really thinks an armed conflict with the US or a major power like Japan, a threshold nuclear-weapon power, could be anything other than devastating to the Chinese.

Kaiser Wilhelm II built a powerful navy which, though inferior to the British, had a fighting chance against them. Chinese commanders realise their naval vessels, despite their modernisation, are sitting ducks for the Americans. Wilhelm had no idea that the centuries-old ruling Hohenzollern and Habsburg monarchies could simply collapse after the war. Beijing very much fears the Communist Party may not survive a major conflict.

An influential new book, The China Choice, has attracted the attention of policymakers across Asia and in Washington. The author, Hugh White, a former Australian defence official, argues that China does not seek dominance and has no ability to achieve it in the region. But it wants, and should be accorded, "an equal share in the leadership of Asia" with the US. That is far less ambitious than Wilhelm's, or Hitler's, Germany.


http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1409906/stop-likening-china-1914-germany
 
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Whip the West also. Eight countries attacked China over opium trade. 6million Chinese died to get rid of opium trade to China.

This opium war the West want to wiped it off their shameless History. You can see the opium war relics in Humen for the Whites descendants to see their evil forefathers atrocities on the Chinese.




I hope the Japs get round to whipping Chinese arse again soon. Those damned Commies need to be taught a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.
 
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Nuke Yosukuni until that shrine glow and nuke it again.

Nuke Japan all over except Fujiyama as that is a nice mountain that I hiked up and I like it then and now.

Nuke Japan until they kowtow and all harakiri themselves other than AV stars
 

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the Japanese government should divulge the details of the wartime collaboration between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Communist Party of China. we know some details of the Japan-CCP collusion from the war records of the Kuomintang and CCP, US, Soviet sources. what is lacking is the Japanese revelations to solve the unanswered questions and complete the CCP treachery story. the Japanese revelations could seriously embarrass and shame the Chinese CCP government. the very least, it would shut up the hundreds of millions of Chinese netizens who kept harping on the war then.
 

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I hope the Japs get round to whipping Chinese arse again soon. Those damned Commies need to be taught a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.

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Provided his US daddy agrees to it.
 

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the most infuriating thing is that the nihon jun always and never admit to their mistake of china's invasion. now china is stronger than them in any field, they are just worried that one fine day, china will turn against them. even today, there are many i met, they still have that kind of jap is superior mentality. dun believe, just talk to the jap expats here.
 

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the Japanese government should divulge the details of the wartime collaboration between the Imperial Japanese Army and the Communist Party of China. we know some details of the Japan-CCP collusion from the war records of the Kuomintang and CCP, US, Soviet sources. what is lacking is the Japanese revelations to solve the unanswered questions and complete the CCP treachery story. the Japanese revelations could seriously embarrass and shame the Chinese CCP government. the very least, it would shut up the hundreds of millions of Chinese netizens who kept harping on the war then.


What I want to know are the details of what smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY was doing as translator for Kempeitai and what Prataman was doing for the Japs.

What treachery of other people when there is treachery at home by that bastard LKY and prataman?

Who the fuck give a flying fuck on Chinese CCP when smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY is doing all the fucking treachery in Singapore ?

WHAT THE FUCK WAS LKY DOING IN THE WW2 THAT HE CAN EAT BETTER AND LIVE BETTER
THE WAY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES KANGAROOS CIVIL SERPENTS NOW DOING TO EAT BETTER AND LIVE BETTER THAN US

SAMA SAMA AS LKY DOING IN WW2
BECOMING TRAITORS AND ENJOYING THE FUN AND BENEFITS OF BEING FUCKING TRAITORS

AFTER WW2 MOST OF THE TRAITORS GOT PIANO WIRES
ALL TRAITORS TO THEIR COUNTRY WILL GET THEIR PIANO WIRES TOO
 

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I hope the Japs get round to whipping Chinese arse again soon. Those damned Commies need to be taught a lesson they won't forget in a hurry.

Dream on! The Chinese is not about to get arse-whipped by the Japs again without them being nuked into oblivion. One nuke should go straight to their beloved Mt Fuji since the japs are so obsessed with its beauty and symmetry. The second nuke can take care of the Yasukuni shrine! Sayonara.:biggrin:
 

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Dream on! The Chinese is not about to get arse-whipped by the Japs again without them being nuked into oblivion. One nuke should go straight to their beloved Mt Fuji since the japs are so obsessed with its beauty and symmetry. The second nuke can take care of the Yasukuni shrine! Sayonara.:biggrin:

I think a funny thing is if a stealthy nuke can be secretly developed and launched undetected, when a target in Japan is flattened and everybody is asking WHO DID IT??, the entire Chinese panel would be 'errr...' and looking sideways at the ceiling and stuff :p
 

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The only reason that Abe (or the Japs) could made such speech on a westernly platform is because they are the first asian country to successfully industrialized since 1860s and submissively enlisted to the elite western G-7 club later on.

Japs used to praise theirs' success was due to cultural and racial superiority than industrialization.

However, since the 1980s till now, the South Koreans, Taiwanese, Hong Kongers, Singaporeans and PRCs have proven such fallency and it was a country's overall industrialization level that drove a country success level.

Since than PRC had displaced Japan's position as Asian number one and world number two. The Japs has become resentful and bitter towards the PRC.
 

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Re: Is he talking war or peace? Shinzo Abe comments on 'pre-war UK, Germany' irk Chin

the most infuriating thing is that the nihon jun always and never admit to their mistake of china's invasion. now china is stronger than them in any field, they are just worried that one fine day, china will turn against them. even today, there are many i met, they still have that kind of jap is superior mentality. dun believe, just talk to the jap expats here.

The japs are superior. Would you buy a jap car or a chink car?
 

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I think a funny thing is if a stealthy nuke can be secretly developed and launched undetected, when a target in Japan is flattened and everybody is asking WHO DID IT??, the entire Chinese panel would be 'errr...' and looking sideways at the ceiling and stuff :p


Even better if that nuke go off with a stealthy bang and with stealthy effect
and AV productions go on as normal.

But all other Japs gone with Yakusuni shrine and only Mt Fuji is left with the cherry blossoms
 

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The japs are superior. Would you buy a jap car or a chink car?

Right now I will prefer Honda over Chery
In the 1950s most would prefer
Buick or Chevrolet over Nissan or Toyota
But fast forward a few decades
Detroit needed to be bailed out by taxpayers
While Japanese car manufacturers
Are bright spot in otherwise moribund nation
Rome was not built in a day
Who would have thought that China is now
Only one of three nations
To have sent a man to space look ma no Omega
Perhaps in one or two decades
I'll prefer a Red Star limousine over a Porsche
 
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