Is Donald Trump actually sick

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Trump's case of COVID-19 may be severe, experts say
US President Donald Trump rides in front of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center
US President Donald Trump rides in front of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where he is being treated for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Bethesda, Maryland, on Oct 4, 2020. (Photo: REUTERS/Cheriss May)
05 Oct 2020 08:01AM
(Updated: 05 Oct 2020 12:03PM)
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NEW YORK: Doctors not involved in treating President Donald Trump for COVID-19 said the fact that he has been started on dexamethasone - a generic steroid widely used in other diseases to reduce inflammation - is the strongest evidence yet that his case may be severe.

Trump's medical team on Sunday (Oct 4) said the president was started on the steroid after experiencing low oxygen levels, but his condition was improving and he could be discharged from the hospital on Monday.

READ: Trump criticised for leaving hospital to greet supporters in motorcade
"What I heard in the news conference description suggested the president has more severe illness than the generally upbeat picture painted," said Dr Daniel McQuillen, an infectious disease specialist at Lahey Hospital & Medical Center in Burlington, Massachusetts.

The Infectious Disease Society of America says dexamethasone is beneficial in people with critical or severe COVID-19 who require extra oxygen. But studies show that the drug is not helpful – and may even be harmful – in people with a milder case of the illness.

Given the patient is 74 years old, overweight and possibly at high risk of complications, "they were aggressive at the beginning", said Dr Stuart Cohen, chief of infectious disease at California's UC Davis Health.

He and other doctors who have been treating COVID-19 patients for months said Trump, who surprised cheering supporters outside the hospital by riding past in a motorcade Sunday evening, could still be discharged from the hospital. Trump returned to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after the short trip.


"He's not going to go to a home where there's no medical care. There's basically a hospital in the White House," said Dr Walid Gellad, professor of medicine at University of Pittsburgh.

Trump was flown to the hospital on Friday hours after announcing that he had tested positive for coronavirus infection. While at the White House, the president was given an infusion of an experimental antibody treatment from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals that is being studied for early infections. On Saturday, the president was started on a five-day course of intravenous antiviral drug remdesivir, which is sold by Gilead Sciences.

Doctors have said that both of these drugs makes sense early in the course of illness to prevent it from getting worse, but dexamethasone is generally reserved for people whose condition has deteriorated.

"We give dexamethasone to patients who require supplemental oxygen," said Dr Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease specialist at Johns Hopkins University.

If Trump no longer requires supplemental oxygen and is able to return to his normal activities, his doctors could discharge him from the hospital, he said.

"The biggest question would be is there a risk of deterioration, or is he on a good trajectory?" Dr Adalja said.

READ: Steroids cut death rates among critically ill COVID-19 patients, major study finds
COVID-19 is often characterised as having two phases – the viral infection itself and in some cases an overreaction of the body's immune system that can cause organ damage. "People sort of putter along for up to a week ... then everything goes downhill very quickly," Dr Cohen said. "It is always hard to predict who that is going to happen in."

Doctors said COVID-19 patients who have had a good response to treatment can leave the hospital relatively quickly, but they will still need to be closely monitored.

"Some people with COVID-19 develop worsening symptoms, shortness of breath and other complications about a week after they first develop symptoms," said Dr Rajesh Gandhi, an infectious disease physician at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.

Dr David Battinelli, chief medical officer at New York's Northwell Health said "it's entirely plausible" that Trump could get discharged on Monday, but cautioned that a full recovery would take time.

"It would be very unlikely for him to be out and about, and on the campaign trail in less than 14 days," he said.

which news outlet did u get this from? CNN?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

which news outlet did u get this from? CNN?

CNA.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...trump-experts-raise-questions-severe-13201236

 

[tobelightlight]

CNA.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...trump-experts-raise-questions-severe-13201236

oh no wonder.. the usual mainstream story..

 

[Hypocrite-The]

What is dexamethasone, the newest drug in Trump’s COVID-19 treatment?

What is dexamethasone and how could it help with coronavirus?
Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel on the latest coronavirus drug study.
The president’s physician says President Trump was treated with a steroid after a drop in oxygen levels on Saturday.
Dr. Sean Conley said at a news conference on Sunday that he was given the steroid dexamethasone while he was hospitalized at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
Conley said the president’s oxygen level had dropped down to 93% on Saturday. He says the president did not feel short of breath.
Trump’s blood oxygen level currently stands at 98%, Trump’s medical team said.
Blood oxygen saturation is a key health marker for coronavirus patients. A normal reading is between 95 and 100. A drop below 90 is concerning.
Dr. Brian Garibaldi, a specialist in pulmonary critical care, said Trump received a second dose of the experimental drug remdesivir along with a first dose of dexamethasone Saturday and isn’t showing any side effects “that we can tell.”
“In response to transient low oxygen levels … we did initiate dexamethasone therapy, and he received his first dose of that yesterday,” said Garibaldi during a press briefing outside the facility. “Our plan is to continue that for the time being.”
Dexamethasone and similar steroids now are known to improve survival when used in hospitalized patients who need extra oxygen, but might be harmful for less sick patients.

The World Health Organization says dexamethasone is not recommended for non-severe cases; the National Institutes of Health guidelines only recommend dexamethasone for patients with COVID-19 who are on a ventilator or are receiving supplemental oxygen.
The National Institutes of Health COVID-19 treatment guidelines recommend against using dexamethasone in patients who do not require oxygen. It has only been proven to help in more serious cases. Among the concerns with earlier use is that steroids tamp down certain immune cells, hindering the body’s own ability to fight off infection.
Trump is 74 years old and clinically obese, putting him at higher risk of serious complications.
Trump’s treatment with the steroid dexamethasone is in addition to the single dose he was given Friday of an experimental drug from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. that supplies antibodies to help the immune system fight the virus. Trump on Friday also began a five-day course of remdesivir, a Gilead Sciences drug currently used for moderately and severely ill patients. The drugs work in different ways — the antibodies help the immune system rid the body of virus, and remdesivir curbs the virus’ ability to multiply.
More than 209,000 Americans have been killed by the virus, by far the highest number of confirmed fatalities in the word. In all, nearly 7.4 million people have been infected in the United States, and few have access to the kind of around-the-clock attention and experimental treatments as Trump.
Frank Miles is a reporter and editor covering geopolitics, military, crime, technology and sports for FoxNews.com. His email is [email protected].

 

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CNN.. take it with a huge pinch of salt.

 

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[blackmondy]

Doesn't matter if he's really sick or not.
More importantly he's gonna fuck Winnie Xi's ass real hard.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Severity of Trump's illness unclear 4 weeks ahead of election
This White House handout photo released Oct 4, 2020 shows US President Donald Trump working in his conference room at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland a day earlier, after testing positive for COVID-19. (Photo: AFP/Joyce N Boghosian)
05 Oct 2020 09:14PM
(Updated: 06 Oct 2020 12:10AM)
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WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump began a fourth day of treatment for COVID-19 at a military hospital outside Washington, with the severity of his illness unclear barely four weeks before Americans go to the polls to decide whether to re-elect him.
Trump's announcement of his diagnosis landed like a bombshell on Friday (Oct 2), some 48 hours after his first presidential debate with Democratic challenger Joe Biden, highlighting the uncertainty that has marked a highly unusual campaign during a deadly pandemic.
Doctors at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, are treating Trump, 74, with a steroid, dexmethasone, that is normally used only in the most severe cases.
Trump was running a high fever on Friday and had been given supplemental oxygen after his blood oxygen levels dropped, Dr Sean P Conley, the White House physician, said on Sunday.
But the Republican president's medical team, which has painted a rosy picture of his condition, will weigh whether he can leave the hospital later on Monday, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Fox News, adding that he was optimistic Trump would be discharged.
"He will meet with his doctors and nurses this morning to make further assessments of his progress," Meadows told Fox News. "We are still optimistic that he will be able to return to the White House later today."
Meadows also defended the decision to allow Trump to leave his suite briefly on Sunday to take part in a drive-by to greet supporters outside the hospital. Critics said the action put Trump's security officers at risk.
Even if discharged, Trump will need to continue treatment as he is still undergoing a five-day course of an intravenous antiviral drug, remdesivir. The normal quarantine period for anyone testing positive for the coronavirus is 14 days.
READ: Trump's case of COVID-19 may be severe, experts say
Trump has released a series of videos in an effort to reassure the public that he is recovering from a disease caused by the coronavirus that has infected 7.4 million Americans and killed more than 209,000.
On Monday, his Twitter account released a stream of more than a dozen messages encouraging Americans to vote for him in the November election, including posts that read "LAW & ORDER. VOTE!" and "RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. VOTE!"
The coronavirus outbreak around Trump grew on Monday when White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in a statement she had tested positive for the virus and would begin the quarantine process. McEnany is a well-known figure at the forefront of the White House's often combative dealings with the media.
TRAILING IN POLLS
A Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Sunday showed Trump trailing Biden by 10 percentage points. About 65 per cent of Americans said Trump would not have been infected had he taken the virus more seriously.
READ: After Trump tests positive, Biden campaign seeks to keep focus on COVID-19 response
Trump has consistently downplayed the risks of the pandemic since it first emerged this year, and he has repeatedly flouted social distancing guidelines meant to curb its spread.
Trump is under fire for leaving the hospital on Sunday as well as for his statement that he met with soldiers and first responders at the hospital – moves that potentially exposed even more people to the virus.
"Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary presidential 'drive-by' just now has to be quarantined for 14 days," James Phillips, who is also an assistant professor of emergency medicine at George Washington University's medical school said on Twitter.
"They might get sick. They may die. For political theatre."
READ: Trump criticised for leaving hospital to greet supporters in motorcade
A return to the White House might help Trump project a sense of normalcy in his difficult battle to win re-election on Nov 3.
US stock markets were trading higher on Monday amid hints of Trump's potential release and signs of progress with a new fiscal stimulus bill. Wall Street's main indexes slumped on Friday after Trump's announcement that he had COVID-19.
But doctors not involved in Trump's treatment said the president's condition might be worse than his team let on. As an overweight, elderly man, Trump is in a category that is more likely to develop severe complications or die from the disease.
Biden, 77, has tested negative for the disease several times since sharing a debate stage with Trump last Tuesday. He is due to resume in-person campaigning on Monday in Florida, where opinion polls show a tight race in a crucial battleground for the Nov 3 election.
Trump's wife, Melania, who also tested positive for COVID-19, said in tweet that she would continue to rest at home in the White House.
Three Republican US senators, two of whom were at a Sep 26 White House public event where Trump introduced his Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, have tested positive for the coronavirus as have others who work in the White House.
Vice President Mike Pence and his wife again tested negative for COVID-19 on Monday, an administration official said.
There is growing concern about a fundraising trip that Trump made on Thursday to his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, which was attended by about 100 people,
"A group of folks from out of state coming in knowingly having been exposed to someone who is COVID-positive is really, really frustrating, it's complicated," New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy told CBS' This Morning show.
"The thing that should have happened is nobody should have come to New Jersey. That trip should have been cancelled," said Murphy, who added that the state, which was one of the early epicentres of the US pandemic, was now conducting contact-tracing for those who attended the fundraiser.

 

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[Leongsam]

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President Trump to be discharged from Walter Reed hospital later today, he says
On Monday afternoon, President Trump announced that he will be leaving “the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M.” Following Trump’s announcement, Dr. Sean Conley said that the president has “met or exceeded” standard discharge protocol. Trump, whose oxygen levels are now normal, will get another dose of remdesivir before heading back to the White House. The president was taken to Walter Reed hospital on Friday and has been given various antiviral drug treatments including dexamethasone during his stay.

 

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https://twitter.com/i/events/1311831665379954688?s=20

President Trump to be discharged from Walter Reed hospital later today, he says
On Monday afternoon, President Trump announced that he will be leaving “the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M.” Following Trump’s announcement, Dr. Sean Conley said that the president has “met or exceeded” standard discharge protocol. Trump, whose oxygen levels are now normal, will get another dose of remdesivir before heading back to the White House. The president was taken to Walter Reed hospital on Friday and has been given various antiviral drug treatments including dexamethasone during his stay.

Covid 19 is such a mild disease after all!

 

[Leongsam]

Covid 19 is such a mild disease after all!

Less harmful than flu for the vast majority of the population.

 

[Leongsam]

October 5, 2020

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical, and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

“This is the saner approach, the more scientific approach,” the authors tell Freddie Sayers

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

Great Barrington, Massachusetts, 4th October 2020

To sign the declaration, follow this link (will be live later today):
www.GBdeclaration.org

 

[Leongsam]

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Is Donald Trump going to win the US election? A coronavirus diagnosis and a presidential debate have upended the race
Posted 2 hours ago, updated1 hour ago

Donald Trump is seeking re-election in November.(ABC News: Niall Lenihan)
It's been less than a week since the world was shocked with the news that US President Donald Trump has tested positive for coronavirus.
It's also still less than a week since American voters were left shell shocked by the first presidential debate of 2020.
And in two days, they'll get to watch another when Vice-President Mike Pence and Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala Harris go head to head in their only debate of the campaign.
We checked in on the state of the race about a month ago (and a reminder, if you want to know how these monthly check-ins are working, the first edition is the perfect place to start), and to say there's been a bit happening is an understatement.
Let's see if any of it mattered.
It's still too early to know how Trump's diagnosis affects the race
In large part because we don't know how Trump will recover.
The President is leaving hospital today. If he returns to the campaign trail afterwards, this whole episode's impact on the race could be small.
If he's forced to remain at the White House for an extended period of time, or even return to hospital, that could give Americans significant reason to pause before giving Trump their vote.
Donald Trump has been in hospital since Saturday.(AP: Alex Brandon)
There's just so much we don't yet (and the White House isn't helping).
It found "a majority of Americans think Trump could have avoided infection if he had taken the virus more seriously" and "little indication of an outpouring of support for the president beyond Trump’s core group of followers".
We'll know more about how the news shakes up the race in the next week.
The debates matter, but not for the reason you might expect
That we do know for sure.
Kathleen Hall, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, said studies have proven that not only can the debates shift public opinion, but so can media coverage of the debate itself.
"In a chaotic debate such as the one that the US just had this past week, in which the interruptions were such that the average person was probably not going to make sense of much," Hall said.
"So the supposedly decisive moments, as interpreted by the press are going to be far more influential than they would have been otherwise."

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Donald Trump clashed frequently with moderator Chris Wallace.
And despite vice-presidential debates mattering as much to the race as the choice itself (i.e. they don't), Hall sees plenty of stakes in the contest that's about to unfold between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris.
"Harris is a woman of colour when mobilisation of the black vote is a very important issue," Hall said.
"The biggest open question in the election for me is, is there a mobilising possibility out of viewership of the vice-presidential debate among the black community, which if it votes is highly likely to vote for the Democrat?"
Senator Kamala Harris and Vice-President Mike Pence meet on the debate stage this week.(Reuters)
Let's check in with our three key indicators for the state of the race, designed to help you make up your own mind about who might win in November.
Starting with …
National polling averages
Polling since the first debate has been limited but most agree that honours went to Biden.
A FiveThirtyEight/Ipsos poll of Americans before and after watching the debate found that six in 10 agreed that Biden's performance was "good". Only three in 10 said the same about Trump.
A CNN poll found the same. A CBS poll of debate watchers found 48 per cent declared Biden the winner, while 41 per cent thought Trump came out on top.
The same CBS poll found 69 per cent of watchers felt "annoyed" watching the debate.
Americans weren't impressed with the first presidential debate.(Getty: Pool)
It will take a little longer for the full impact of the debate to show up in national polling averages, which have been steady this month after tightening slightly in August.
We also check in on the President's approval rating as one measure of his chances of being re-elected. Just like those national polling averages, Trump's approval was steady in the past month.
Keep in mind: It's going to be hard to separate the impact of events like the debates and news stories (like the New York Times report into Trump's taxes) in the polls. Polling tends to take a week or two to accurately reflect any given event, and there are less than four weeks left until election day. That doesn't mean the polls won't change, but it might be hard to attribute a change to any specific event.
The bottom line: After tightening somewhat last month, the national polling averages show the race returning to the state it's been for much of this year — with Biden holding a steady, high single-digit lead. With less than a month to go, Trump needs to move the polls significantly (or hope that they're wrong like they were in 2016).
Our next indicator is …
The third quarter GDP figures are due on October 29, just four days before the election.
And in good news for the President, economists are expecting record growth.
Third-quarter GDP growth estimates are topping a 32 per cent rate, according to Reuters, thanks to a strong housing market and turnaround in business investment.
Personal income in August decreased by 2.7 per cent. But the raw unemployment rate fell by 1.8 points to 8.4 per cent.
Keep in mind: We've mentioned this in previous editions, but Congress still hasn't agreed to more coronavirus stimulus. The plan to restore federal unemployment insurance and send more stimulus checks to Americans has now been stalled for months.
The bottom line: The US economy is showing signs of rebounding after the coronavirus pandemic caused a historic collapse, with positive signs across most major indicators. That's good news for the re-election chances of the President, who is campaigning on his ability to manage the economy.
Finally …
The coronavirus pandemic
A grim milestone was marked in the US in September.
Officially, more than 200,000 Americans have now died of coronavirus. That's an increase of more than 15,000 since our last update.
Counterintuitively, the milestone passed as more states moved to re-open completely. Only eight US states and territories are in the process of re-introducing restrictions.
Donald Trump became one of the 7 million Americans to be infected with coronavirus.(AP: Jacquelyn Martin)
According to the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation, if the easing of social distancing mandates and closures continues, that number could rise to nearly 400,000 by January.
There are more than 7.4 million confirmed cases of coronavirus in the US, an increase of more than 1.1 million since we last checked in. And of course, the President is now one of them.
September was a month that started with encouraging downward trends in daily case numbers (with one daily total falling as low as 25,173) but ended with a worrying uptick in new cases to more than 40,000 per day.
Keep in mind: Concerns about the holiday season, where many Americans travel to be with friends and family, have sparked warnings of a third wave still to come.
The bottom line: While figures are improving from an explosion of cases in July, the US looks to be settling into a plateau of daily new cases twice as high as the previous plateau in May.
What do our voters say?
These indicators are all well and good, but in the end, it's American voters who'll make their decision on November 3. So each month, we check in with three of them to see if their perceptions of the race have changed. As always, we ask them: "Will Donald Trump be re-elected in November?"
First is Republican Mike McMullen:
Next is Sarah Becker, a Republican who says she will not vote for Trump at the 2020 election:
And finally is Mark Kellman, a Democrat:
So, will Donald Trump win?
There is less than a month until election day.(APL: Stan Badz)
This month has delivered Trump good news on the economy, more bad news on coronavirus and neither when it comes to the national polls. And with just a month to go until election day, the President would have preferred good news on all three as he looks for another unlikely victory like 2016.
If you think you know who'll win the election, come join us in our live blog with your fellow readers. You can tell us your assessment and ask us any burning questions you've got about the state of the race.
If you want to be notified when we publish our next edition, plus get lots of inside knowledge about the campaign trail from our Washington DC bureau, you can sign up for alerts from ABC News on Messenger by tapping here.

 

[leeisphtui]

Less harmful than flu for the vast majority of the population.

there are over a million reasons why this is incorrect. but i suppose we should listen to you, over the 1000000 highly trained scientists.

do you get some kind of sick pleasure from this?

 

[Leongsam]

there are over a million reasons why this is incorrect. but i suppose we should listen to you, over the 1000000 highly trained scientists.

do you get some kind of sick pleasure from this?

I may not be a "highly trained" scientist but I have a tertiary honors degree in the sciences.

All I'm doing is looking at the data which I consider reliable.

EG take a look at Singapore's data

https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/singapore

27 deaths out of 57819 confirmed infections = 0.046% CFR.

Influenza has a CFR of 0.1% based on wiki data.

Also take note that NOBODY has died from Covid-19 in Singapore since June despite soaring infection rates in the dorms over the months that followed.

Even in the UK which had a high Covid death toll in the early stages of the covid outbreak now has more flu deaths per week.

Covid needs to be put in perspective.

 

[tobelightlight]

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[tobelightlight]

there are over a million reasons why this is incorrect. but i suppose we should listen to you, over the 1000000 highly trained scientists.

do you get some kind of sick pleasure from this?

Are you those type who think that virus can kill you and need to mask on in every seconds of the day? Need to sanitize your hand every 10 minutes once the gel has evaporated from your hand?