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Is $50,000 per year enough to retire in Spore?

johnny333

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Honest how many sinkees got 1k or more to pay insurance...immigrating out of peesai is the best way. Even in western cuntries if u take insurance it would cost a few hundred only on top of the social welfare or free medical.

In places like Alberta Canada they have done better. In 2008 the Alberta gov't abolished premiums for health care:eek:

Previously the premiums were affordable, costing individuals $528/year & now it is FREE:smile:



http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=63835597-76da-4add-9d3e-c10510258254



Alberta to end health care premiums


Alberta's Conservative government will eliminate health care premiums entirely on Jan. 1, Finance Minister Iris Evans announced today in her provincial budget.

By Edmonton Journal April 22, 2008



Alberta to end health care premiums

EDMONTON — Alberta's Conservative government will eliminate health care premiums entirely on Jan. 1, Finance Minister Iris Evans announced today in her provincial budget.

Evans says chucking the annual premium – which critics call a regressive tax – and making other targeted cuts in the budget will provide tax savings of nearly $1.3 billion.

“The time has come for Albertans to enjoy additional direct rewards of our province’s prosperity,” added Premier Ed Stelmach. “This government made a commitment to Albertans to eliminate health care premiums within four years. We said we would do it sooner if we could and that is exactly what we’re doing.”

The health care fee – which this year cost families $1,056 and singles $528 – has been collected since 1969. Only B.C. and Ontario collect similar health premiums.

According to budget documents, the elimination of the premium is “roughly equal to a 12 per cent reduction in personal income taxes.”

The move will also be a boon to businesses that pay the cost of the premiums for their employees, saving large corporations millions annually or freeing up money for salary increases or other benefits for their employees.

The elimination of the premium, which generated about $1 billion annually, makes Alberta by far the lowest taxed jurisdiction in the nation, Evans said in a speech to be delivered at 3 p.m. to the Alberta legislature.

“If Albertans and Alberta businesses were in any other province, they would pay between about $10 billion and $18 billion more in taxes every single year,” she said. “That works out to about $3,000 to $5,000 for each Albertan.”

Evans is forecasting a $1.6-billion surplus on revenues of $38.6 billion and record expenses of $37 billion based on oil at US$78 per barrel and $6.75 per gigajoule for natural gas. But the province has a long history over lowballing surpluses. Over the past five years, the province has forecast surpluses totalling about $9 billion when they actually totalled more than $30 billion. Last year’s surplus, estimated at $2.2 billion, was $4 billion.

Although oil prices are running at $118 per barrel, Evans says her forecast is reasonable, pointing out that a shift of $1 in the price of oil can affect revenue by $130 million.

“Only one year ago, oil prices were around $65 per barrel. Who knew then that they would be hovering around $110 today?”

The finance minister boasted that this is the Tories' 15th consecutive balanced budget.

Evans said the budget, which boosted spending by 11.6 per cent over last year’s spending, is “a prudent budget that stays within our means.”

Alberta’s per capita spending is now three times the average level of other provinces.

The largest chunk of new spending goes to health care, which gets an infusion of nine per cent or $1 billion – about 40 per cent of the total operating spending.

The Tory government made no increased commitment to savings aside from its promise to put one-third of the surplus into the Heritage Savings Trust Fund. But Evans said her government will deposit $279 million into the fund to keep pace with inflation.

Although the capital fund was increased by a whopping 21 per cent to $8.7 billion this year, the budget set aside no new money for schools and other facilities that have not been previously announced.

Low- and middle-income families as well as caregivers and individuals with disabilities are also in line for modest tax savings.

The Tories are increasing the Alberta family employment tax credit by 10 per cent for families moving off income support programs – a move that affects about 145,000 families. Families of four earning less than $60,000 could receive an additional $360 annually.

Caregiver, infirm dependent and disability income supplements will more than double to $9,355, while the disability amount will increase to $12,466.

The province will be cautious with its newly announced $100-million “enterprise” fund to help boost the Alberta’s technology industry after years of steadfast Conservative dogma that government stays out of the business of being in business. Unlike the controversial Getty-era practice that saw the province directly invest in often-disastrous corporate ventures, the Stelmach government will order the new Alberta Enterprise Corporation to give money to venture-capital funds or other investment groups, which will themselves determine what firms and emerging Alberta technological initiatives get the money.

The budget also includes $20 million per year for consumer incentives or rebates that encourage power saving. The government will unveil those measures for residents and businesses in a new Energy Efficiency Act this spring.

“On energy development and the environment, we will pursue a leading role in responding to climate change, through carbon capture and storage, saving energy, and greener energy production,” Evans said in her speech.

Her Earth-Day budget boasts that the governing Tories are dramatically boosting the environment ministry’s budget to $403 million, but the 120-per-cent increase is mostly from the federal government ($52 million) and from corporate emitter fines ($155 million). Exactly how that money will be spent wasn’t included in today’s budget, but it’s designed to go into climate-change research and tech development and demonstration projects.

The lions share is widely expected to be headed towards the promising but expensive carbon-capture technology.

With files from Jason Markusoff

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© (c) CanWest MediaWorks Publications Inc.
 

Hawkeye1819

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I guess a lot of sinkie are mislead by our MIW that a heart bypass cost only $8. And our beloved Tin PL commented that healthcare is very low cost in sinkieland (whereby the video shows a shocking monkey with mouth wide opened).


Yes, very misleading. What is not reported is: how many years of premium the COW has paid for his insurance policies.

The whole operation could have been free of charge for all I care. But the total healthcare cost you incurred includes the premium paid to date.

Also, the MSM will never report on whether the hospital gave him any special discounts that allowed the insurer to cover most of the remaining cost, so that he can end up with an $8 bill.
 

contangee

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If you are considering moving to Alberta then may be Brunei is better, another mineral rich place with very few people. There is a reason why healthcare is free there because very few people wants to live there due to harsh winter and very few entertainment options when in big cities like Edmonton and Calgary. There is also another town in Alaska that is giving away free land if you move there but I don't think you would even consider that. The closest you can come to free healthcare is places like Norway, Sweden, France,..etc where tax is close to 70%-80%.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259264,00.html

Frankly, you would want there to be reasonable cost for healthcare so people will use it more sparingly. Knowing Singaporeans, if it does not cost money to see doctors, some will mess up the wait time by going there everyday for minor issues.
 

johnny333

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If you are considering moving to Alberta then may be Brunei is better, another mineral rich place with very few people. There is a reason why healthcare is free there because very few people wants to live there due to harsh winter and very few entertainment options when in big cities like Edmonton and Calgary. There is also another town in Alaska that is giving away free land if you move there but I don't think you would even consider that. The closest you can come to free healthcare is places like Norway, Sweden, France,..etc where tax is close to 70%-80%.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259264,00.html

Frankly, you would want there to be reasonable cost for healthcare so people will use it more sparingly. Knowing Singaporeans, if it does not cost money to see doctors, some will mess up the wait time by going there everyday for minor issues.

There are shopping malls in Edmonton. The largest mall is West Edmonton Mall. It is a very, ... very large malls with indoor water parks, casino, hotels, ice skating ring, shops, a fleet of ships,.... Go take a look at:
http://www.wem.ca/#/play
 

chupacabra

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Must be kidding right to compare Brunei and Alberta. Brunei is a swamp land. Living in Alberta you can cross into the US for a drive, plus they have all the major US retailers in Alberta.
 

johnny333

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If you can get into Canada, the US job market is more open due to the Free Trade Agreement between the 2 countries.
 

johnny333

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If you can get into Canada, the US job market is more open due to the Free Trade Agreement between the 2 countries.

Also must consider that there are better hospitals & Universities over there for your kids & the system there will take care of you when you are older. Not familiar with the situation in Brunei but heard that even the Brunei Royalty have to come to Spore for medical treatment.
 

johnny333

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Err...you mean sinkies only earn 50k per year? It isn't a lot to begin with.

This $50K is for retirement & not from a monthly salary e.g. from dividens, savings, rental income, ...etc. It is a net amount without any deduction for CPF.
 

johnny333

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Visited in the 80s. Most impressed.

It's also got a very large car park & you'll find campers with license plates from all over the US & Canada in that car park. Many tourists visit the nearby Jasper & Banff National Parks & of course West Edmonton Mall. At one time it was the largest mall in the world with 800 stores in the mall.

There is even a fleet of submarines which is even larger than the Canadian navy:biggrin: There is also a galleon which is a copy of the Santa Maria.
They also have a casino & if you are an adult there are no restrictions against locals like in Spore:rolleyes:
 

Merl Haggard

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Jokes aside, if one has no comprehensive health insurance coverage in S'pore, then it's cheaper to die than be struck with terminal illness.
 

GoldenDragon

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It's also got a very large car park & you'll find campers with license plates from all over the US & Canada in that car park. Many tourists visit the nearby Jasper & Banff National Parks & of course West Edmonton Mall. At one time it was the largest mall in the world with 800 stores in the mall.

There is even a fleet of submarines which is even larger than the Canadian navy:biggrin: There is also a galleon which is a copy of the Santa Maria.
They also have a casino & if you are an adult there are no restrictions against locals like in Spore:rolleyes:

Yes, I visted Jasper and Banff. Lake Louise too. Many Japanese were manning the shops there. Couldn't believe the size of Edmonton Mall when I visited for the first time.

Don't recall the fleet of submarines, casino and galleon.
 

GoldenDragon

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Jokes aside, if one has no comprehensive health insurance coverage in S'pore, then it's cheaper to die than be struck with terminal illness.

That's what the ah peks and ah mahs are saying in the kopitiams - ay sai see beh sai phua pei. The MIW should be ashamed of themselves.
 

Hawkeye1819

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Jokes aside, if one has no comprehensive health insurance coverage in S'pore, then it's cheaper to die than be struck with terminal illness.


Agree. Even a basic plan that does not cover deductibles or co-insurance is better than nothing at all. The PAP has allowed too many people to go into financial ruin due to hospital and surgical bills.
 

contangee

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Met and spoke with a someone who is living in Calgary yesterday and asked about their Alberta healthcare plan. Essentially he said that they now have to pay if you are not poor. His view is that you are paying indirectly for healthcare insurance though tax. Highest income tax bracket is 37% but lots of indirect taxes and he estimated that the total taxes he paid last year was between 50% to 60% of his income.
 

contangee

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Jokes aside, if one has no comprehensive health insurance coverage in S'pore, then it's cheaper to die than be struck with terminal illness.

Besides money considerations, I often thought that if I am terminally ill or disabled, I would rather die quickly to minimize pain to myself and family. Of course this has to be a personal choice not one dictated to you by the government.
 

johnny333

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Met and spoke with a someone who is living in Calgary yesterday and asked about their Alberta healthcare plan. Essentially he said that they now have to pay if you are not poor. His view is that you are paying indirectly for healthcare insurance though tax. Highest income tax bracket is 37% but lots of indirect taxes and he estimated that the total taxes he paid last year was between 50% to 60% of his income.



Why shouldn't the higher income earners pay more taxes since they are earning more $$$:confused:
I think it is a gov'ts role to redistribute wealth to the lesser fortunate. At least for health care & education to ensure that everyone in society has a chance at a decent life


I know many Canadians that are proud of their health care system & they are willing to pay to support a system which provides equal access to everyone. I have had 1st hand experience with the medical care in Alberta & it's a superb system. It is much better than what I have experienced in Spore.

From the responses I've read many don't think $50K/year is enough in Spore especially IF you get ill in Spore. As someone who has $$$ in my Medisave account I am beginning to worry if it is going to last:confused:
 

escher

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The high cost of living in Singapore is entirely due to slime of shit on sole of shoe LKY wanting billions into his Stinkapore sovereign fund and to pay his cockroaches and running dogs and maggots.

Why is it cost of living in Malaysia a quarter of Stinkapore even with Bumis taking a large chunk of money?
Still far far cheaper than Stinkapore.

Kick out all those maggots in white and $20,000 a year will be enough to retire in Singapore.
 
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