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Indonesia BRICS member imposes 200% made in China products

Willamshakespear

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Diam lah ai chatbot pls update to latest version. :cautious:

Yet ANOTHER whom wish others to SHUT UP without ANY intelligent discourse, just because one's view runs counter to their ignorant beliefs or even own's blinded support of failed causes, of all places, here in SBF which is probably the last bastion of Free Speech on the Internet....what a waste of bytes upon this site owner's ideal to fund for computer servers to keep this last site alive....
 

oliverlee

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ccp will dump their unwanted and fake products anywhere, impoverished african cuntries included. even africans are pissed.

and now iran.
1.4 billion people. If each person only pays 10 cents for your product, you would still be fucking rich. At the same time, if you threw a coin at random anywhere in the world, chances are you would hit a tiong. There's no escaping their influence.
 

oliverlee

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Yet ANOTHER whom wish others to SHUT UP without ANY intelligent discourse, just because one's view runs counter to their ignorant beliefs or even own's blinded support of failed causes, of all places, here in SBF which is probably the last bastion of Free Speech on the Internet....what a waste of bytes upon this site owner's ideal to fund for computer servers to keep this last site alive....
what sort of discourse or intercourse are you capable of? just alot of wanking.
 

eatshitndie

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1.4 billion people. If each person only pays 10 cents for your product, you would still be fucking rich. At the same time, if you threw a coin at random anywhere in the world, chances are you would hit a tiong. There's no escaping their influence.
same with their fug and tug spas. everywhere you look there’s one. i was in sexclusive and sexpensive carmel by the sea over the weekend, and lo and behold, many lup sup tiong spas litter the quiet corners of the tiny town.
 

Willamshakespear

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what sort of discourse or intercourse are you capable of? just alot of wanking.

Peace.

You do have an Earthborn right to your own Free will & opinion. The insignificant nobody me wish you all the best, & may you find comfort in your ignorance & the insignificant nobody me will ..... .....


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laksaboy

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Enjoy the tariffs for now, because the trade embargoes will come.

This is just a foretaste, a sneak preview.
 

oliverlee

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same with their fug and tug spas. everywhere you look there’s one. i was in sexclusive and sexpensive carmel by the sea over the weekend, and lo and behold, many lup sup tiong spas litter the quiet corners of the tiny town.
$88 for just cover charge. $88 around this region would treat you like royalty
 

myfoot123

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Since chicons land pissed off...will chicons allow the indons to join?
Need to assess carefully, you don't want another nation with the attitude of India 2.0 into BRICS easily. Singapore and Vietnam is the least to consider. Malaysia,Cambodia should be next BRICS member after Thailand.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Need to assess carefully, you don't want another nation with the attitude of India 2.0 into BRICS easily. Singapore and Vietnam is the least to consider. Malaysia,Cambodia should be next BRICS member after Thailand.
So will this BRICS trading bloc discriminate against trading with ang mor lands?
 

Flying Horse

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In order to help more understand, the insignificant nobody me will show how it works, using simple easy to understand model - using a simple product - toothbrush, in brief.

1. A - an American company, spent millions in research, trial tests, marketing, best materials, etc to create a good toothbrush. It then sold to the World at S$2.50/toothbrush, to cover its development costs, overheads & market opportunity as being the leader in toothbrush industry.


2. B - a China factory owner, bought one of the toothbrush & 'Back Engineer' the American innovation - bristles & the handle thru forensics, & then found better & cheaper quality materials, tweaked the original design & started manufacturing the toothbrush, selling it at S$1.00, earning 90cts per toothbrush as B has better economy of scale, cheap labor, etc, to do so.

It costs only 10cts to cover overheads, leaving B with 90cts as pure gross profit, making him a millionaire overnight with more than a million toothbrush sold in 1.4 Billion China population.


3. C - an Indonesian businessman, entrepreneur & OPPORTUNIST, seized upon the coming 200% Indonesian tariff upon China goods.

a) He sets up a 2000sq ft 'factory', the size of a coffee shop, somewhere on one of the island chains far away from Jarkarta govt scrutiny & call it B Indonesian Toothbrush factory, & hired a few technicians & machines.


b) He then sets off to Thailand, which has little or no tariffs on China goods AND is an ASEAN trade neighbor of Indonesia, to set up a local import firm.


c) He then flew to Guangdong China, to meet with B - the China owner of the toothbrush factory, to work out a deal - to import the bristles & handle of the toothbrush, UNASSEMBLED. A deal was struck - B sells him the toothbrush PARTS at 60cts per toothbrush, & C to pay for logistics.

B - the China owner, still makes a profit at 50cts per toothbrush, as he needs not hire assembly technicians/automation or pay for logistics/overheads.


d) C - the Indonesian bizman, then flew home, & set his scheme in motion - importing UNASSEMBLED toothbrush parts from China thru Thailand to Indonesia, where he set his technicians & machines to assemble the toothbrush, then sold the toothbrush as MADE IN INDONESIA at S$1.80cts, which is lower than the tariffed one that is made in China.

10cts was his overhead costs, as he bought in bulk & Indonesian labor/land, etc costs are low. Thus he made $1.80cts (selling price) - 60cts( paid to China factory owner) - 10cts ( local overhead costs) = $1.10/toothbrush sold, making him a millionaire overnight when a million of such toothbrushes are sold in Indonesia with a population of 275million....


4. In end, who wins & WHO loses?


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It is comprehensible that many other nations fear China's rise. It cares NOT about branding or quality unlike other nations, BUT only to keep its Billion workface employed & out of poverty. It is not an industrial juggernaut making millions of other products selling to the World that some make it out to be. It has its weaknesses.

It may be able to obtain durian seeds & grow such on its own lands in the South that has conducive temperatures on a bigger scale with its cheap land & labour costs, then export in huge quantity to bring in revenue, but it will not be able to grow raw materials such as steel, etc.....
Exactly. That is the Playbook that anyone who are in the manufacturing of consumer goods would do. Whether Ah Tiong or their equivalent counterpart in Southeast Asia is irrelevant. Everyone would share the pie eventually. But on the downside is, it also means Southeast Asia would eventually become a mirror of mainland CHina with excessive production and cut throat competition.
 

laksaboy

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If Ang Mo wanted to do business with BRICS members, they have no choice but to hold another major currency in their reserves called RMB.

BRICS is a laughable organization in its current state. There's a good chance that Russia will backstab China in future. India is CECA land. Brazil is ruled (for now) by a left wing nutjob.
 

laksaboy

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Russia is done with the West, unless NATO is dismantled, America failed to exist and sanctions lifted permanently. There is no turning back for another century.

When (not if) the Ukraine little drama show ends, Russia will have no more need to exclusively export stuff to China. And it will find out very soon that China really has no money to pay for Russian stuff.

As for China, it can look forward to tariffs, sanctions and maybe total trade embargoes. Just a heads up to those deluded Sinkie CCP fanboys and smug Tiongs here on their 30-day visa-free travel. :cool:
 

myfoot123

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When (not if) the Ukraine little drama show ends, Russia will have no more need to exclusively export stuff to China. :cool:
The end of Ukraine war doesn't mean the end of Sanction on Russia. Once bitten, twice shy and it takes centuries for Russia to trust the Western world again. To stop trading with China is like taking off your safety net when you walked on tightrope. Putin is not stupid unlike its neighbouring European nations.
 
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