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If Li Lian can win 54%, do you think Nicole Seah can win more percent?
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She should stand in an SMC!
as long you dun put her against amicable woody...60% is possible!!
all other oppositions parties can close shop leow...
go and join WP!!! and give yourselves a higher chance of winning one seat!!
on one condition, don't be extremists lah!! it is not really too hard not to be one!!
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maybe the top dogs at WP will scared Nicole Seah will overshadow them mah...............
wonder why she join NSP..................i've never heard of NSP until 2011GE...............i voted for her though !
but then again, i'll even vote for NSP if they send out a team of cockroaches..............
wonder why she join NSP..................i've never heard of NSP until 2011GE...............i voted for her though !
but then again, i'll even vote for NSP if they send out a team of cockroaches..............
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For Nicole Seah to have any success, she needs to dump that BelMonte biscuit first. He is a liability.
I actually disagree.
Many of the voters in Punggol East voted for the party first and the candidate second.
They see WP as a credible brand. And after deciding that they felt comfortable with the party, they turned to the candidate, who won people over with her heartlander charm.
Nicole Seah will not see any success if she remains with NSP. In the first place, NSP lacks shrewd political strategists. In 2011, had NSP fielded Nicole, Tony and Hazel along with a minority candidate and Goh Meng Seng in Tampines, they would have had a high chance of winning. Especially since Mah Bow Tan was very unpopular then.
However,they chose to spread out their resources and make up the numbers with ghouls who no one had ever heard of, and who not even remotely electable. That was their pitfall.
In the first place, NSP's strategy has never been to actually try and win an election. They planned to enter Parliament through the NCMP route. At least that's what Hazel and Tony felt, and that was why they had huge disagreements with KJ back in the Reform Party. They are even more moderate than WP.
You will not see Nicole Seah elected unless she joins WP.
Many of the voters in Punggol East voted for the party first and the candidate second.
They see WP as a credible brand. And after deciding that they felt comfortable with the party, they turned to the candidate, who won people over with her heartlander charm.
Nicole Seah will not see any success if she remains with NSP. In the first place, NSP lacks shrewd political strategists. In 2011, had NSP fielded Nicole, Tony and Hazel along with a minority candidate and Goh Meng Seng in Tampines, they would have had a high chance of winning. Especially since Mah Bow Tan was very unpopular then.
However,they chose to spread out their resources and make up the numbers with ghouls who no one had ever heard of, and who not even remotely electable. That was their pitfall.
In the first place, NSP's strategy has never been to actually try and win an election. They planned to enter Parliament through the NCMP route. At least that's what Hazel and Tony felt, and that was why they had huge disagreements with KJ back in the Reform Party. They are even more moderate than WP.
You will not see Nicole Seah elected unless she joins WP.
A nice analysis. But how do you judge voters mindsets whether they voted for party or person?
NSP is a third rate party yes. But Nicole is not the WP kind,
If they voted for the PERSON, honestly, Koh Poh Koon or even Kenneth Jeyaretnam are better on paper than Lee Li Lian.
The fact is that they made up their minds to support WP, which means that they would back the WP's candidate UNLESS he/she was totally unacceptable.
Ask yourself this: if Dr Koh was the WP candidate and Lee Li Lian was the PAP candidate, who do you think would win?
The fact is that they made up their minds to support WP, which means that they would back the WP's candidate UNLESS he/she was totally unacceptable.
Ask yourself this: if Dr Koh was the WP candidate and Lee Li Lian was the PAP candidate, who do you think would win?
If they vote for the person KJ would have gotten less. KPK would still not have won.
Candidates reversed? There would be a recount. Both would get 49%
I am sorry but I must respectfully disagree.
The litmus test is whether the results would have been different if Koh and Lee Li Lian switched parties.
I firmly believe that if Dr Koh was the WP candidate, and Lee Li Lian was the PAP candidate, Dr Koh would have won.
Similarly, if Desmond Choo was the WP candidate, and Png Eng Huat was the PAP candidate, then Desmond Choo would have won.
The litmus test is whether the results would have been different if Koh and Lee Li Lian switched parties.
I firmly believe that if Dr Koh was the WP candidate, and Lee Li Lian was the PAP candidate, Dr Koh would have won.
Similarly, if Desmond Choo was the WP candidate, and Png Eng Huat was the PAP candidate, then Desmond Choo would have won.
If Nicole Seah wants to carve out a success career in Opposition politics, she needs to join another party.
The NSP just doesn't cut it as a credible force. The way opposition politics is shaping up, it looks to be either WP or a combination or hybrid collection of SDP, SDA,SPP,RP and NSP. I wouldn't be surprised to see a consolidation of some of the opposition parties because currently, as they stand, they will make zero difference to the political landscape in 2016.
The NSP just doesn't cut it as a credible force. The way opposition politics is shaping up, it looks to be either WP or a combination or hybrid collection of SDP, SDA,SPP,RP and NSP. I wouldn't be surprised to see a consolidation of some of the opposition parties because currently, as they stand, they will make zero difference to the political landscape in 2016.
This one must ask GMS, they worked quite "intimately" in the last GE. After that, you need to discount about 70% of what GMS said, and derive your final answer based on guts feel.
That is unlikely to take place. The profile of KPK do not jive with the image of WP. He seemed too stuck up, high & mighty, over confident and stiff - just like most PAP candidate.
LLL has a very down to earth personality. Her missing front tooth, her N level are some imperfections some folks can associate & connect with. Very often it is not the paper qualification or the profession, it is the ability to connect with the voters which LLL did very well while KPK flopped big time with all his fumbles - 2 cars, sympathy votes, $11.50 chopsticks, etc etc.
The WP branding is important. But the candidate is more important just as so many are talking about Nicole Seah.
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This I agree completely. The guy is extremely immature. That said, I would argue that NS only has an appeal among a certain segment of voters. She and her team in Marine Parade appeared to do well only because her opposite number TPL was highly unpopular.
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