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'If I don't collect cans, I will not have food'

po2wq

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The Electric New Paper :

Karung guni woman refuses to give students her empty cans

'If I don't collect cans, I will not have food'

IT was all over a drink can. And an empty one at that.

By Genevieve Jiang
14 August 2008


IT was all over a drink can. And an empty one at that.

The debate: Who should have it?

It began when a group of students went out to look for empty drink cans for a TV challenge.

Their task was to collect at least 8,500 empty cans so they can be painted and stringed together to form a gigantic Singapore flag.

The aim was to get into the Singapore Book of Records, by breaking the last record of 8,470 cans set in 2006.

Groups of students from Fuhua Secondary, Hwa Chong Institution, Innova Primary and Townsville Primary fanned out to look for the cans.

Their search was filmed in last Tuesday's episode of The Records Challenge on Channel 8.

Students from Fuhua were filmed asking a karung guni woman for some empty cans, but she refused.

Later, the students also had to give up some empty cans they had found to the woman.

One of the students cried.

Some viewers said it was wrong of the students to ask the woman for the cans.

A 31-year-old business development manager, Foo Tze Wei, said: 'To the students, the cans were to break a record. But for the woman, every can contributes to her three meals.'

Housewife Lee Yew Huang, 63, agreed, adding that it was insensitive of them to ask the woman for the empty cans.

She said: 'They must realise that it's not easy for old people to make a living this way. It was not justified for the student to cry just because she couldn't get the cans.'

But another viewer, a 24-year-old undergraduate Darren Tan, did not think the students did anything wrong.

He said: 'The students were just trying to complete their assignment. And it's not like they snatched the cans from the woman or were rude to her.

'I think it's commendable that they gave up the cans that they found to her, and even gave her some money.'

The programme's host Pornsak also defended the students.

He told The New Paper that the students had gone to several coffee shops before finding the empty cans.

Pornsak said: 'It was a weekday afternoon and there were very few customers at the coffee shops and hawker centres. The students were doing this after class, so they could have been tired.

'One of the students had set herself a target of 500 to 600 cans within an hour. She thought it was going to be an easy task at first, but it turned out otherwise.

'She could have wept out of tiredness and disappointment.'

He added that the students, together with the filming crew, even bought noodles for the woman.

During filming, students from Fuhua were scouring a Jurong hawker centre for cans when a male student saw the woman, in her 50s, collecting cans.

He asked her for some of her cans but she refused, saying that she depended on the cans for a living. The students then continued their search within the hawker centre.

When they finally found some empty cans, the same woman approached them and asked them to let her have them.

The woman said: 'Can you let me have the cans, please? Have a kind heart. If I don't collect enough cans, I won't have food to eat today.

'You are still young and can continue to hunt for cans. And there are so many of you, whereas I'm alone.'

When contacted, a spokesman for Fuhua said: 'The students gave away the six cans they found to the old woman.

'Before the students went out to collect cans, they didn't know how hard it was for these elderly people. Now, they do.'

Chinese evening daily Lianhe Wanbao interviewed several karung guni women and they said that collecting cans was a difficult living.

A 80-year-old woman, who wanted to be known only as Madam Feng, collects cans at the Chong Pang market every afternoon.

She said she works seven hours a every day, but earns just between $10 and $20 a week.

Another woman in her 70s, who sources at Sengkang, said she sometimes has to compete with students and other welfare groups who are trying to raise money or collect materials for recycling.

Madam Feng said: 'These young people are strong and energetic. How do we compete with them?'
 

zhihau

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... 'If I don't collect cans, I will not have food' ...

reminds me of this video...

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Pica_NA

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IMO... those students bo brain leh.. old women collecting empty cans.. do you think she want to collect for fun.. use the brain also know, she is selling those cans for a living... Not sure how the school teach student nowsaday... and also how their parent teach them? :mad:
 

Himerus

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agree with bro Cestbon.
how much cans she needs for the show,just buy from her.
the old woman also has to earn a living.
 

ANDYSIAO14

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Eventually......
nowadays younger generations of karung-guni entrepreneurs will also soon
give up theirs to the oldbirds karung guni with the same reason the woman just gave.... :wink:

"You are still young...why not you help me because without having enuff used items, i wont have any food " :p
 

makapaaa

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SINGAPOREANS who vote opposition just for the sake of it were warned by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew that they were risking their own fortunes.
Using a sports analogy, he reiterated the importance of ensuring a 'Division 1 team' was voted into Government.
Speaking at a National Day dinner yesterday in his Tanjong Pagar GRC, he said: 'You vote in a Div 3 Government instead of a Div 1 Government, the whole economy will subside within three, four years. Finished.'
To vote anything but top quality into office could lead to, among others, job losses and falling property prices, he added. 'We will be worse than our neighbours because our neighbours have oil and gas, palm oil and many other things...We have none of these.'
He also warned about how money politics in some countries had bled talent from ruling parties there.
Singapore had avoided this situation, he said, because it had an 'above board' Government which chose MPs carefully.
'With each election, the quality of the MPs...is renewed, and we have a leadership that is able to match the rising standards of the population.'
It was all these factors and risks, he said, that those calling for more opposition did not understand.
'They say: 'Oh let's have different parties change and be in charge of Government.' Is it that simple?
'We know that Singapore wants opposition to check the PAP. We'll find a way to have more voices inside the assembly, but not at the risk of voting in a Div 2 or 3 Government.'
Mr Lee, a founder of the People's Action Party, saved for last his thoughts on its future: 'If ever the PAP goes corrupt, weak, it's finished. You will have to look for a new team, and a new party. That will be very difficult. So just watch and make sure nothing goes wrong with the PAP.' Read also: Help for the poor: MM

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tonychat

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Mr Lee, a founder of the People's Action Party, saved for last his thoughts on its future: 'If ever the PAP goes corrupt, weak, it's finished. You will have to look for a new team, and a new party. That will be very difficult. So just watch and make sure nothing goes wrong with the PAP.'

That is exactly what is happening now. There is no "IF"
 

Ah Guan

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Truely a sickening piece of news to read.

The old have no dignity left in this country.

No one deserves to end up like that.
 

toolanliao

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what's wrong with youngster nowadays. old ah mah already got problem competing with chinamen on bicycles and they still want to make her life harder.
 

splintuh

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All that for a stupid TV challenge? Just to string together a tin-can SG flag? And to break another senseless world record?

The stupid kids and teachers should know better.

PUI!
 

Conan the Barbarian

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These kids doing the project of collecting cans must have been a sheltered lot. Anyone that ever eats in a hawker centre will have seen these can-collecting old folks, or selling tissue paper.

Either that or they are damn stupid and thought that the old folks are also doing a project to break a guiness book record.

When i first read the report, i thought the child cried because she felt sad for the old lady. But reading on, I lost all hope in such people. She cried because she was dissapointed she could not reach the target of 500 cans.

"'One of the students had set herself a target of 500 to 600 cans within an hour. She thought it was going to be an easy task at first, but it turned out otherwise.

'She could have wept out of tiredness and disappointment.'

The bright thing was perhaps, this would enlighten the children that there are still those less fortunate in society.

Hope they learnt the correct lesson from this episode.
 

ahbengsong

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Just buy the cans from the old lady.... and after making the flag... give the cans flag to the old lady and then buy back from her again..... end of debate...

beng
 

kiko

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Yes , lets do our part collect some cans, for the old aunty and uncle, so that they can in turn sell off, and have money to eat
 

hearthard

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It will go down in the record books if all these students spend their weekends helping these old folks collecting cans. Patriotism is not about the flag but helping your fellow citizens. To do 8 hrs of Community Involvement Programme per year speaks volume of our educational system.
 
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