I am envious of Egyptians

[myfoot123]

Suddenly, watching their story unfold, gave me so much hope that someday, the people of Singapore can fly out of their suppressive cage and smell the air of freedom like the Egytians. Their brotherhood is so strong that even the state controlled army feel touched to stand for them. I can feel their burden unloaded and sun lits on many of their faces. I have never felt so happy for them, a country so rich in culture and so strong in unity that collectively become Mosses to saved its people from the whip of tyrants.

Now I only have one vote in my hand, in a small way, I will do my part to free the people if they too must help themselves.

 

[cleareyes]

there is nothing to envy about. The worst is yet to come for the Egyptians.

 

[iconchia]

Go and become an Egytian and soon you will be envious of a Singaporean.

 

[wahlaneh]

wahlaneh...
both egypt n israel are brothers!
in which family siblings dun fight n quarrel?

 

[myfoot123]

What is taking our election so long to come? HOw many times must LHL continue to update the electorate registers and count the number of new citizens to support his failed leadership. Is he too afraid to lose his rice bowl and than embarassed his father who picked him as successor. This is getting absurd.

 

[singveld]

there is nothing to envy about. The worst is yet to come for the Egyptians.

you mean the stock market when it open in the middle of next week.

 

[cleareyes]

What is taking our election so long to come? HOw many times must LHL continue to update the electorate registers and count the number of new citizens to support his failed leadership. Is he too afraid to lose his rice bowl and than embarassed his father who picked him as successor. This is getting absurd.

are you an idiot, ignorant or just plain stupid?

The due date for GE technically is in 2012 and so if PAP does wnat to hold it in 2012, there is nothing anyone can do about it.

 

[cleareyes]

you mean the stock market when it open in the middle of next week.

Everything. The shit is not over yet. Looks like the Muslim Brotherhood want the whole pie.

 

[wikiphile]

Everything. The shit is not over yet. Looks like the Muslim Brotherhood want the whole pie.

The last thing that everybody (save the Egyptians) want is a Muslim brotherhood in power in Egypt for many in the region. The first order of business would be probably to wipe off the Israelis and possibly Jordan for being lackeys of the US of A for so long

The only thing standing in their way is the Army who wants and needs a pro-USA and secular government so that their big ticket purchases would still be 'subsidised' for. I would imagine that the Armed Forces would step in again, like the Turks should any Islamic party gains power via elections if it turns out to be pro-Arab and anti-USA

 

[NoelVermillion]

Got a naggy feeling that Islamic extremists will infiltrate and try to seize power, and then a reign of terror will ensue till the point that the Egyptians will rather have Mubarak.

 

[wikiphile]

Got a naggy feeling that Islamic extremists will infiltrate and try to seize power, and then a reign of terror will ensue till the point that the Egyptians will rather have Mubarak.

Like how the Iraqis would rather have Saddam back?

 

[Dreamer1]

To be one who is in the first world,it is true that one should not jump with joy just as yet.We have to watch how it is being played out.

First,the military,every where in the world ,when the military is involved,genrally it has a bad ending,so far I can only remember a good case when the flight lta in Ghana,who decided to give back the power & turn Ghana into a democratic nation,the worst has been General Ne Win of Myanmar who took power in 1962 and sent it fr the richest in S E Asia to the poorest in the world.

Egyptain generals are pro-USA,but so was General Ne Win who worked closely with CIA.

I note that the Generals in Egypt ware generally quite corrupted.

On the other hand,the Muslim Brotherhood is also very eager & ready to grab power.

I agree with the latest editorial in the economist
The West should celebrate, not fear, the upheaval in Egypt


Democracy in the Arab world: Egypt rises up | The Economist 3 Feb 2011 ... FROM fear of autocracy through euphoria to fear of chaos: over the past ten days, Egypt has been through an intense emotional arc. ...
www.economist.com/node/18070190

 

[NoelVermillion]

Like how the Iraqis would rather have Saddam back?

yup. what the arabs need is not really democracy, but a secular strongman. Mubarak and Saddam are prime examples.

 

[wikiphile]

To be one who is in the first world,it is true that one should not jump with joy just as yet.We have to watch how it is being played out.

First,the military,every where in the world ,when the military is involved,genrally it has a bad ending,so far I can only remember a good case when the flight lta in Ghana,who decided to give back the power & turn Ghana into a democratic nation,the worst has been General Ne Win of Myanmar who took power in 1962 and sent it fr the richest in S E Asia to the poorest in the world.

Egyptain generals are pro-USA,but so was General Ne Win who worked closely with CIA.

I note that the Generals in Egypt ware generally quite corrupted.

On the other hand,the Muslim Brotherhood is also very eager & ready to grab power.

I agree with the latest editorial in the economist
The West should celebrate, not fear, the upheaval in Egypt


Democracy in the Arab world: Egypt rises up | The Economist 3 Feb 2011 ... FROM fear of autocracy through euphoria to fear of chaos: over the past ten days, Egypt has been through an intense emotional arc. ...
www.economist.com/node/18070190

Granted, the Egyptians should be left to themselves on how best to govern themselves and that the path to democracy is their very right for they have finally earned it after more than 6 decades of strongmen rule.

However let us not forget that Egypt owns the Suez Canal which is possibly the most important shipping shortcut in the world as Europe and even the USA requires this shortcut to have their oil and gas delivered to them in the shortest time possible. The Suez is probably Egypt's best asset and worst curse for it is the most important reason why the West has been influencing events and politics in Egypt for the past 2 centuries.

 

[Dreamer1]

For several years now, unable to renew its institutions or find jobs for its youth, Egypt has been becoming more repressive.

To leave 85m people to live under dictatorship—burdened by a corrupt and brutal police force, the suppression of the opposition, and the torture of political prisoners—would not just be morally wrong; it would also light the fuse for the next uprising.

Some would wish to install a new strongman and wait for him to create the conditions for a secular democracy. But autocrats rarely plan for their own removal, as the sad state of the Middle East shows


Egypt’s upheaval may make Westerners nervous, but when Egyptians demand freedom and self-determination, they are affirming values that the West lives by.
There is no guarantee that Egypt’s revolution will turn out for the best.

The only certainty is that autocracy leads to upheaval, and the best guarantor of stability is democracy.

www.economist.com/node/18070190

 

[Dreamer1]

Ghana road to democracy

Ghana became the first sub-Saharan African country to gain its independence in 1957.
K Nkrumah, first prime minister and then president of the modern Ghanaian state, as an anti-colonial leader sought a united Africa which would not drift into neo-colonialism.

Dr. Nkrumah's government was subsequently overthrown by the military while abroad in February 1966. Former Central Intelligence Agency employee John Stockwell alleges that the CIA had an effective hand in forcing the coup.[18]

A series of subsequent coups from 1966 to 1981 ended with the ascension to power of Flight Lieutenant Jerry Rawlings in 1981. These changes resulted in the suspension of the constitution in 1981 and the banning of political parties. The economy suffered a severe decline soon after, and many Ghanaians migrated to other countries

Rawlings negotiated a structural adjustment plan with the International Monetary Fund and changed many old economic policies, and the economy began to recover.

A new constitution restoring multi-party politics was promulgated in 1992, and Rawlings was elected as president then and again in 1996.
The Constitution of 1992 prohibited him from running for a third term, so his party, the National Democratic Congress, chose his Vice President, John Atta Mills, to run against the opposition parties. Winning the 2000 elections, John Kufuor of the New Patriotic Party was sworn into office as president in January 2001 and beat Mills again in 2004, thus also serving two terms as president.

In 2009, John Atta Mills took office as President of Ghana with a difference of about 40,000 votes (0.46%) [20] between his party, the National Democratic Congress and the New Patriotic Party, marking the second time that power had been transferred from one legitimately elected leader to another and securing Ghana's status as a stable democracy.[21]

 

[singveld]

only 18? i dun believe it, what if fake was used?

Egyptian Museum: Cairo's looted treasureBy Yolande Knell

BBC News, Cairo
The Egyptian Museum - a red, neoclassical building - attract tourists from all over the world For lovers of ancient history, the Egyptian Museum and the priceless, cultural treasures it contains have been in alarmingly close proximity to troubles in Cairo's Tahrir Square.

Following an inventory, Antiquities Minister Zahi Hawass has now confirmed for the first time that artefacts were stolen during a break-in on 28 January.

In a statement entitled "sad news", he lists 18 items that have disappeared. They include a gilded wood statue of the boy king Tutankhamun being carried by a goddess and parts of another statue of him harpooning.

A criminal investigation has begun to try to recover the valuable objects. A group of men already in custody is being questioned.

Items stolen from the museum include Tutankhamun statues The raid on the museum took place at the height of a period of lawlessness after police were removed from the streets.

The office of Mr Hawass confirmed that 70 artefacts were knocked over or damaged when showcases were broken. Pictures on state television showed shattered glass and items overturned on the floor.

Two unidentified skulls, being kept in storage in the museum grounds for examination by researchers, were retrieved in their original condition. It has been reported that they were mummies that had been damaged.

Soldiers have guarded the museum since the raid. They could be seen putting out fires started by petrol bombs that landed in the garden, when anti-government protesters fought with gangs supporting President Hosni Mubarak.

On his official blog, Mr Hawass, wrote: "I have said that if the Egyptian Museum is safe, Egypt is safe. However, I am now concerned Egypt is not safe."

But he later added: "Not a single thing has been thrown at the museum by the thousands of protesters in Tahrir Square, because these people do not want to damage their cultural heritage."

A date for the Egyptian Museum to open has not yet been decided. Its director and other staff have been sleeping at the site to watch over it.

'Confidence dented'
This statue depicts the boy king held by a goddess The red, neoclassical building on Tahrir Square houses the golden treasures of Tutankhamun discovered in his nearly intact tomb in 1922, as well as other world-famous pharaonic artefacts.

Other ancient sites, popular with the millions of tourists who come to Egypt each year, have also been affected by recent unrest.

Antiquities workers say intruders tried to enter the Coptic Museum in old Cairo and the Royal Jewellery Museum in Alexandria on 29 January.

A padlock was broken at the site of the open-air museum in Memphis, south of Cairo, although nothing was stolen.

There was also a break-in at a building near a "crooked pyramid" at Dahshur, also south of Cairo.

The army continues to surround the site of the pyramids and the Sphinx at Giza.

The ancient monuments are usually a highlight for visitors on historic tours of Egypt. However, officials say about 1.2m tourists were driven away by recent political turmoil.

A continuing state of uncertainty may also dent the confidence of international museums currently considering returning "unique cultural objects" from Egypt on loan for the opening of the new Giza Museum due by 2013.

Egyptian officials have requested the return of the Rosetta Stone from the British Museum and the bust of Queen Nefertiti from the Neues Museum in Berlin, Germany.

 

[singveld]

Everything. The shit is not over yet. Looks like the Muslim Brotherhood want the whole pie.

first thing first, investors pull the money out of the country, the stock market will crash.

Next the election winner will be islamic party, they will take over the civilian govt, but the army refuse to give up power, so war of words between each other. The poor will suffer even more.

 

[neddy]

Go and become an Egytian and soon you will be envious of a Singaporean.

I admire Egyptians more than Singaporeans.

If only I can make Singaporeans my workers and Egypt my place to live.

first thing first, investors pull the money out of the country, the stock market will crash.

Next the election winner will be islamic party, they will take over the civilian govt, but the army refuse to give up power, so war of words between each other. The poor will suffer even more.

Wow. Good idea.

Egyptian Museum: Cairo's looted treasureBy Yolande Knell

BBC News, Cairo
The Egyptian Museum - a red, neoclassical building - attract tourists from all over the world For lovers of ancient history, the Egyptian Museum and the priceless, cultural treasures it contains have been in alarmingly close proximity to troubles in Cairo's Tahrir Square.

Following an inventory, Antiquities Minister Zahi Hawass has now confirmed for the first time that artefacts were stolen during a break-in on 28 January.

A continuing state of uncertainty may also dent the confidence of international museums currently considering returning "unique cultural objects" from Egypt on loan for the opening of the new Giza Museum due by 2013.

Egyptian officials have requested the return of the Rosetta Stone from the British Museum and the bust of Queen Nefertiti from the Neues Museum in Berlin, Germany.

Not surprising - looting is an occupation there, as old as the pyramids.

 

[cleareyes]

The last thing that everybody (save the Egyptians) want is a Muslim brotherhood in power in Egypt for many in the region. The first order of business would be probably to wipe off the Israelis and possibly Jordan for being lackeys of the US of A for so long

The only thing standing in their way is the Army who wants and needs a pro-USA and secular government so that their big ticket purchases would still be 'subsidised' for. I would imagine that the Armed Forces would step in again, like the Turks should any Islamic party gains power via elections if it turns out to be pro-Arab and anti-USA

I would fully agree and support a military goverment in Egypt then to see a islamic goverment who would be pro-Iranian.

That itself would set off WW3.

as for destroying isreal and jordan? isreal will use the bomb on cario and all arab cities if that were to happen and there is nothing anyone can do to stop them.