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CCB I ho sim ask about your forehead temperature.u ungrateful Malaysian Chinese sons of whores a disgrace to hokkiens in the world. Pui!

Siao ting tong eh 13 o clock eh phua CB.
Disgusting ccb Malaysian son of whore creating issue out of no issue and then acting innocent. What a disgrace to Hokkiens indeed.
 

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No you forgot Spore is hokkien dominated.

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China's ancestry tourism claims Lee Kuan Yew, snubs Shinawatras
The local government spent 30 million yuan (US$4.5 million) turning Lee Kuan Yew’s ancestral home into a tourist attraction.
PHOTO: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo

KINLING LO
SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST

Jan 21, 2019
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Inside an ordinary ancestral shrine in a village in southern China, where locals pay respects to their forebears, hang photographs of two unusual figures: former Thailand prime ministers Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra.
"Everyone here knows about their ties to this place, for sure," said Xie Yimin, a home supplies shop owner in Taxia village in Guangdong province, four hours' drive from Guangzhou.

Brother and sister Thaksin and Yingluck are fourth-generation Chinese immigrants in Thailand and descended from a family of Hakkas. Their great-grandfather Seng Saekhu, like many others from the Guangdong cities of Meizhou and Chaozhou, left China in the late 19th century for what was then Siam, where he grew wealthy from trading and taxation businesses.

Before each went into self-imposed exile after being ousted as Thai leader by military governments in 2006 and 2014 respectively, Thaksin and Yingluck had become familiar to Taxia. With the help of the Chinese government during his term as leader, Thaksin was able to trace their ancestral roots to the village. He first visited it in 2005, before returning with his sister in 2014.

The siblings' portraits were placed in the centre of an array of photos of prominent descendants of the village with the clan surname Qiu.
"Being distant relatives [of the Shinawatras] was something people liked to talk about," Xie said.
But not any more.
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Thaksin and Yingluck are among those whose portraits hang inside the ancestral hall in Taxia. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Thaksin - ranked 19th on US business magazine Forbes' 2018 Thailand's 50 Richest list, with a net worth of US$1.8 billion (S$2.45 billion) - was ousted as prime minister in a military coup in 2006, fleeing abroad to avoid a corruption charge. He was convicted in absentia in 2008 and sentenced to two years in jail.
Yingluck, who made her name as an executive in the telecoms and property businesses founded by her brother, was sentenced to five years in prison in absentia in 2017 for mishandling rice subsidies that resulted in huge losses to state coffers. She fled the country ahead of the verdict and said the case was politically motivated.
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The former Thai prime ministers visited their ancestral shrine in Meizhou, where many overseas Hakka Chinese have roots.Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
The siblings have made plenty of high-profile trips in the past year, including appearances in China, Singapore and Japan. But it was quiet in Taxia when they arrived for their latest ancestral visit on January 5. According to the Chinese media, the pair stopped at the shrine to pay their respects.
"This was nothing like their previous visit," said Xie, whose shop is a minute's walk from the shrine. "Ever since Yingluck's scandal, we were asked to give the relations between them and our village a lower profile.
"[Villagers] only found out they were coming half an hour beforehand because police started blocking the roads. We were informed a week in advance last time," Xie said, adding that villagers were asked to stay away, with only government officials and some distant relatives being allowed near the visitors. She said they stayed for half an hour.
As much as China loves to play up the ancestral roots of prominent and successful overseas Chinese figures, the red carpet that was once rolled out for the Shinawatra siblings has been rolled away.
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The Shinawatras’ ancestral house, where an elderly distant relative still lives.Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
During their previous return to Taxia, photos in the ancestral hall show, the local government organised a feast for them and locals to enjoy against a giant display that read "Welcome back Thaksin and Yingluck".
This time, Yingluck posted a short video on Instagram of her and her brother visiting Taxia, showing them getting out of a car and being greeted by eager and smiling Chinese locals. However, all relevant Chinese state media photos and articles about their visit were deleted within a day.
Their brief stop also missed out one of the ports of call on Thaksin's previous two visits: the ancestral home of their mother, an hour's drive from Taxia.
READ ALSO
Former Thailand prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra does have a Cambodian passport, and may have used it to flee in 2017
The house sits on a small hill in Meijiao village, where pomelo trees are a common sight. A 2012 plaque on an outside wall of the 200-year-old yellow concrete building identifies it as a protected heritage site, commemorating the place where the mother of Thaksin and Yingluck lived. She resided there for two years in her brief return to China during the second world war, according to Chinese state media.
Five years ago, the siblings had a photo taken in front of the house with their oldest living relative, who state media reported was the wife of their mother's cousin. Aged about 90, she still lives alone in the run-down abode, her neighbours said.
With its shattered windows, broken doors and stove, and a floor covered in leaves and chicken droppings, it is a world away from the affluent lives of Thaksin and Yingluck.
"When they visited last time, the local government did try to fix the house a bit, mend the walls and clean it," said Li Dongling, who runs a pomelo business in the village.
"But they never came again. Sometimes I see the old lady and I feel sorry that she lives in such ruins - it looks like the house could collapse at any time," said Li, who has lived in the village for over 20 years.
"But this [the association with the Shinawatras] doesn't bring any benefit to us as a village. We rely on ourselves for our living."
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An artificial lake was built in “Lee Kuan Yew’s Homeplace Tourist Area” in Tangqi village. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Qiu Mingqian, a Taxia village committee member of the Communist Party, said plans to preserve the Shinawatras' family history had been put on hold indefinitely.
"The government wanted to preserve some heritage related to them and revitalise the ancestor temple," Qiu said. "Somehow the plan never went ahead, for political reasons."
While China's reception for the Shinawatras has cooled, the reverse has been true for the family heritage of another Southeast Asian leader, whose ancestral home is 80km (50 miles) away.
By the junction leading to Tangqi village in Dapu county, also in Meizhou, stands a large sign that reads "Lee Kuan Yew's Homeplace Tourist Area" - referring to Singapore's first prime minister, known as its founding father and a fourth-generation Straits Chinese.
In the village itself, newly paved roads, an artificial lake, security cameras and an automatic lighting system can be found alongside hundred-year-old traditional Chinese terraced houses with grey tilted roofs.
A new two-storey Lee Kuan Yew memorial hall and a tourist centre stand in the middle of the village, while a house described as Lee's ancestral home is marked by two plaques about the architecture.
These form part of a 30 million yuan (US$4.5 million) project launched by the local government in 2014 to turn the tiny village of about 300 residents into a rural tourist site honouring the man who governed Singapore for three decades and oversaw its 1965 separation from Malaysia.
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The house described as Lee Kuan Yew’s ancestral home. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Lee, who died in 2015, had said that his great-grandfather Li Muwen came from Tangqi village and moved to Singapore to do business. Li later left his family - Lee's ancestors - in Singapore to return to China in 1884, building the house and starting another family there.
Despite the efforts to tie Lee's name to Tangqi, Lee and his descendants - including current Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong - have never set foot in the place.
"This [entire project] was a Chinese initiative; the Singapore government never acknowledged it," said He Yaohong, a member of museum staff who is also a village cadre. "The Lee family is already head of state of another country and would never want to be called Chinese."
She said visitors to Tangqi, numbering a few hundred to a thousand per month, were mostly Chinese or Singaporean Chinese.
There was a rumour that Lee Kuan Yew's younger brother had visited in 2005, but no visits were expected from the more powerful members of the family, she said.
"The government did inform Singapore about building this tourist spot, because we are using Lee's name and image," He said.
"We are just using his name for our own purpose, and as long as both sides are all right with this, everything is fine."
This article was first published in South China Morning Post.
 

ginfreely

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And controlled by the Fuckkas
China's ancestry tourism claims Lee Kuan Yew, snubs Shinawatras
The local government spent 30 million yuan (US$4.5 million) turning Lee Kuan Yew’s ancestral home into a tourist attraction.
PHOTO: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo

KINLING LO
SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST

Jan 21, 2019
FacebookTwitterGoogle+Email

Inside an ordinary ancestral shrine in a village in southern China, where locals pay respects to their forebears, hang photographs of two unusual figures: former Thailand prime ministers Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra.
"Everyone here knows about their ties to this place, for sure," said Xie Yimin, a home supplies shop owner in Taxia village in Guangdong province, four hours' drive from Guangzhou.

Brother and sister Thaksin and Yingluck are fourth-generation Chinese immigrants in Thailand and descended from a family of Hakkas. Their great-grandfather Seng Saekhu, like many others from the Guangdong cities of Meizhou and Chaozhou, left China in the late 19th century for what was then Siam, where he grew wealthy from trading and taxation businesses.

Before each went into self-imposed exile after being ousted as Thai leader by military governments in 2006 and 2014 respectively, Thaksin and Yingluck had become familiar to Taxia. With the help of the Chinese government during his term as leader, Thaksin was able to trace their ancestral roots to the village. He first visited it in 2005, before returning with his sister in 2014.

The siblings' portraits were placed in the centre of an array of photos of prominent descendants of the village with the clan surname Qiu.
"Being distant relatives [of the Shinawatras] was something people liked to talk about," Xie said.
But not any more.
19083_1548039960.png
Thaksin and Yingluck are among those whose portraits hang inside the ancestral hall in Taxia. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Thaksin - ranked 19th on US business magazine Forbes' 2018 Thailand's 50 Richest list, with a net worth of US$1.8 billion (S$2.45 billion) - was ousted as prime minister in a military coup in 2006, fleeing abroad to avoid a corruption charge. He was convicted in absentia in 2008 and sentenced to two years in jail.
Yingluck, who made her name as an executive in the telecoms and property businesses founded by her brother, was sentenced to five years in prison in absentia in 2017 for mishandling rice subsidies that resulted in huge losses to state coffers. She fled the country ahead of the verdict and said the case was politically motivated.
19083_1548040003.png
The former Thai prime ministers visited their ancestral shrine in Meizhou, where many overseas Hakka Chinese have roots.Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
The siblings have made plenty of high-profile trips in the past year, including appearances in China, Singapore and Japan. But it was quiet in Taxia when they arrived for their latest ancestral visit on January 5. According to the Chinese media, the pair stopped at the shrine to pay their respects.
"This was nothing like their previous visit," said Xie, whose shop is a minute's walk from the shrine. "Ever since Yingluck's scandal, we were asked to give the relations between them and our village a lower profile.
"[Villagers] only found out they were coming half an hour beforehand because police started blocking the roads. We were informed a week in advance last time," Xie said, adding that villagers were asked to stay away, with only government officials and some distant relatives being allowed near the visitors. She said they stayed for half an hour.
As much as China loves to play up the ancestral roots of prominent and successful overseas Chinese figures, the red carpet that was once rolled out for the Shinawatra siblings has been rolled away.
19083_1548040055.png
The Shinawatras’ ancestral house, where an elderly distant relative still lives.Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
During their previous return to Taxia, photos in the ancestral hall show, the local government organised a feast for them and locals to enjoy against a giant display that read "Welcome back Thaksin and Yingluck".
This time, Yingluck posted a short video on Instagram of her and her brother visiting Taxia, showing them getting out of a car and being greeted by eager and smiling Chinese locals. However, all relevant Chinese state media photos and articles about their visit were deleted within a day.
Their brief stop also missed out one of the ports of call on Thaksin's previous two visits: the ancestral home of their mother, an hour's drive from Taxia.
READ ALSO
Former Thailand prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra does have a Cambodian passport, and may have used it to flee in 2017
The house sits on a small hill in Meijiao village, where pomelo trees are a common sight. A 2012 plaque on an outside wall of the 200-year-old yellow concrete building identifies it as a protected heritage site, commemorating the place where the mother of Thaksin and Yingluck lived. She resided there for two years in her brief return to China during the second world war, according to Chinese state media.
Five years ago, the siblings had a photo taken in front of the house with their oldest living relative, who state media reported was the wife of their mother's cousin. Aged about 90, she still lives alone in the run-down abode, her neighbours said.
With its shattered windows, broken doors and stove, and a floor covered in leaves and chicken droppings, it is a world away from the affluent lives of Thaksin and Yingluck.
"When they visited last time, the local government did try to fix the house a bit, mend the walls and clean it," said Li Dongling, who runs a pomelo business in the village.
"But they never came again. Sometimes I see the old lady and I feel sorry that she lives in such ruins - it looks like the house could collapse at any time," said Li, who has lived in the village for over 20 years.
"But this [the association with the Shinawatras] doesn't bring any benefit to us as a village. We rely on ourselves for our living."
19083_1548040126.png
An artificial lake was built in “Lee Kuan Yew’s Homeplace Tourist Area” in Tangqi village. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Qiu Mingqian, a Taxia village committee member of the Communist Party, said plans to preserve the Shinawatras' family history had been put on hold indefinitely.
"The government wanted to preserve some heritage related to them and revitalise the ancestor temple," Qiu said. "Somehow the plan never went ahead, for political reasons."
While China's reception for the Shinawatras has cooled, the reverse has been true for the family heritage of another Southeast Asian leader, whose ancestral home is 80km (50 miles) away.
By the junction leading to Tangqi village in Dapu county, also in Meizhou, stands a large sign that reads "Lee Kuan Yew's Homeplace Tourist Area" - referring to Singapore's first prime minister, known as its founding father and a fourth-generation Straits Chinese.
In the village itself, newly paved roads, an artificial lake, security cameras and an automatic lighting system can be found alongside hundred-year-old traditional Chinese terraced houses with grey tilted roofs.
A new two-storey Lee Kuan Yew memorial hall and a tourist centre stand in the middle of the village, while a house described as Lee's ancestral home is marked by two plaques about the architecture.
These form part of a 30 million yuan (US$4.5 million) project launched by the local government in 2014 to turn the tiny village of about 300 residents into a rural tourist site honouring the man who governed Singapore for three decades and oversaw its 1965 separation from Malaysia.
19083_1548040173.png
The house described as Lee Kuan Yew’s ancestral home. Photo: South China Morning Post/Kinling Lo
Lee, who died in 2015, had said that his great-grandfather Li Muwen came from Tangqi village and moved to Singapore to do business. Li later left his family - Lee's ancestors - in Singapore to return to China in 1884, building the house and starting another family there.
Despite the efforts to tie Lee's name to Tangqi, Lee and his descendants - including current Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong - have never set foot in the place.
"This [entire project] was a Chinese initiative; the Singapore government never acknowledged it," said He Yaohong, a member of museum staff who is also a village cadre. "The Lee family is already head of state of another country and would never want to be called Chinese."
She said visitors to Tangqi, numbering a few hundred to a thousand per month, were mostly Chinese or Singaporean Chinese.
There was a rumour that Lee Kuan Yew's younger brother had visited in 2005, but no visits were expected from the more powerful members of the family, she said.
"The government did inform Singapore about building this tourist spot, because we are using Lee's name and image," He said.
"We are just using his name for our own purpose, and as long as both sides are all right with this, everything is fine."
This article was first published in South China Morning Post.
Ya Hokkiens are not ambitious politically. Always Hakkas in politics from Taiwan to Spore to Indonesia. Right?
 

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Hokkiens are the ones that gave money to help and support China from Sun Zhongshan anti Qing to Jiang Jieshi anti Jap to Mao Zedong nation building! Basically helping China throughout all the years of difficulty. And yet ingrate Chinese dislike hokkiens!
???? Hokkiens not chinese? Of course they are. Basically hokkiens outdo most other chinese diskects.
 

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番薯英雄陳振龍,從海外偷回薯藤,挽救了無數人的生命

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時間\2019-01-24

https://www.google.com.my/url?sa=i&...aw1WLRcXRynKS-Mn-Zp0hvNS&ust=1550300377615813....

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說到這個番薯,我們當然不能把這個」番薯英雄「給忘記了。他就是來自福建的陳振龍,在大明萬曆年間誕生,從小聰明好學飽讀經書,而且還是小個小神童,不到二十歲人家就考了個秀才回來,也可能是小的時候太優秀了被大家考的飄起來了,等到要考舉人的時候卻怎麼也考不中了,對於神童陳振龍來說這是一個天大的打擊,越來越灰心,乾脆就不考了下海經商去了,因為人從小就聰明,所以生意也做的很好,很快本地市場已經不能滿足他的需求了,他就把目光放到了海外,他和一個同鄉一起來到菲律賓做生意,那時菲律賓被西班牙占領,所以很多福建人在那裡做生意。
 

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番薯英雄陳振龍,從海外偷回薯藤,挽救了無數人的生命

分類\歷史
時間\2019-01-24

https://www.google.com.my/url?sa=i&...aw1WLRcXRynKS-Mn-Zp0hvNS&ust=1550300377615813....

.......

說到這個番薯,我們當然不能把這個」番薯英雄「給忘記了。他就是來自福建的陳振龍,在大明萬曆年間誕生,從小聰明好學飽讀經書,而且還是小個小神童,不到二十歲人家就考了個秀才回來,也可能是小的時候太優秀了被大家考的飄起來了,等到要考舉人的時候卻怎麼也考不中了,對於神童陳振龍來說這是一個天大的打擊,越來越灰心,乾脆就不考了下海經商去了,因為人從小就聰明,所以生意也做的很好,很快本地市場已經不能滿足他的需求了,他就把目光放到了海外,他和一個同鄉一起來到菲律賓做生意,那時菲律賓被西班牙占領,所以很多福建人在那裡做生意。
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Chen Zhenlong, the sweet potato hero, steals the potato vine from overseas and saves the lives of countless people.

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Time\2019-01-24

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Speaking of this sweet potato, we certainly can't forget this "sweet potato hero". He is Chen Zhenlong from Fujian, born in the Ming Dynasty Wanli, from childhood to learning the scriptures, and still a small child prodigy, less than twenty When the old man took a test, he came back. It may be too good when he was a child. It was floated up by everyone. When he was going to test the person, he couldn’t take it. For the prodigy Chen Zhenlong, this is a big day. The blow, more and more discouraged, simply did not test the business of going to the sea, because people are smart from an early age, so the business is doing very well, and soon the local market can no longer meet his needs, he put his eyes on it. Overseas, he and a fellow countryman came to the Philippines to do business. At that time, the Philippines was occupied by Spain, so many Fujianese were doing business there.
 
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