Here's what happens after 2x Pfizer shots

[zhihau]

When you look at the trajectory of Covid in Israel it's a window into the future of Singapore's Covid landscape. Expect thousands of Singaporeans to die over the coming months unless an effective treatment is implemented quickly.

Why aren’t we looking at UK’s trajectory, it paints a different picture

 

[nayr69sg]

Goodness sake!

Why aren’t we looking at UK’s trajectory, it paints a different picture

Cos people like to look at data and evidenc that fits with what they already believe and know.

 

[Maxico]

"Vaccines still protect a person against infection, but the strength of the protection will come down as antibodies wane several months after the vaccination," said Mr. Ong, who co-chairs the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19.

Antibiotic resistance happens when germs like bacteria and fungi develop the ability to defeat the drugs designed to kill them. That means the germs are not killed and continue to grow.

Will vaccine end up the same way?

 

[nayr69sg]

"Vaccines still protect a person against infection, but the strength of the protection will come down as antibodies wane several months after the vaccination," said Mr. Ong, who co-chairs the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19.

Antibiotic resistance happens when germs like bacteria and fungi develop the ability to defeat the drugs designed to kill them. That means the germs are not killed and continue to grow.

Will vaccine end up the same way?

Yes. Very likely in fact. And it has already happened.

Variants.

Life will find a way. The virus will mutate.

From a survival point of view though it is better that the virus does not kill its host but lives in the host for long time.

Hence with luck covid will evolve to become less deadly with each new variant mutation.

 

[laksaboy]

"Vaccines still protect a person against infection, but the strength of the protection will come down as antibodies wane several months after the vaccination," said Mr. Ong, who co-chairs the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19.

Antibiotic resistance happens when germs like bacteria and fungi develop the ability to defeat the drugs designed to kill them. That means the germs are not killed and continue to grow.

Will vaccine end up the same way?

For antibiotic resistance, I doubt there is any digital tagging of the clean (vaccinated) vs unclean (unvaccinated) people, with privileges for the former and restrictions for the latter.

Now the onus is on those who already received two shots: will they want to receive a third shot (sunk cost fallacy) or say 'fuck it' and carry on with their lives?

 

[nayr69sg]

For antibiotic resistance, I doubt there is any digital tagging of the clean (vaccinated) vs unclean (unvaccinated) people, with privileges for the former and restrictions for the latter.

Now the onus is on those who already received two shots: will they want to receive a third shot (sunk cost fallacy) or say 'fuck it' and carry on with their lives?

I think they will follow what is recommended.

Most will take third shot.

 

[Sideswipe]

those vaccines were made to protect against the original Wuhan variant. the new variants are more contagious. new vaccines needed, not 3,4 or 5 shots.

 

[Leongsam]

Why aren’t we looking at UK’s trajectory, it paints a different picture

Because it is always good to look at the worst case scenario and anything else is a bonus.

And don't forget that more than 60,000 have died in the UK.

 

[Maxico]

Yes. Very likely in fact. And it has already happened.

Variants.

Life will find a way. The virus will mutate.

From a survival point of view though it is better that the virus does not kill its host but lives in the host for long time.

Hence with luck covid will evolve to become less deadly with each new variant mutation.

Soon people on earth will become addicts on vaccine.

 

[zhihau]

Life will find a way. The virus will mutate.

Yup, I share these thoughts too.

A parasite killing its host outright can’t survive long on its own, the mutation that allows it to survive long enough for successive propagation will be favored.

Be it convergent or divergent evolution, life will find its way.

 

[Leongsam]

Deaths....3 per million?

Uhmmm isnt that considered quite low overall? Lol

It's 300% higher than 1 in a million.

 

[nayr69sg]

Soon people on earth will become addicts on vaccine.

No lah.

You probably not referring to addiction.

Maybe more like dependence.

Addiction more for substance abuse. People obsess about how to get next dose. Spend whole day thinking how to get it. Neglect familym neglect work. Take part in law breaking activities to get the drug.

 

[nayr69sg]

Yup, I share these thoughts too.

Wah! We said the same!

 

[zhihau]

Because it is always good to look at the worst case scenario and anything else is a bonus.

And don't forget that more than 60,000 have died in the UK.

True, always be prepared for the worst.

Boss, those 60K deaths had the bulk of them attributed to the first two waves prior vaccination. On a clean slate post vaccination, their death rates from late April through August registered a moderate increase, unlike the Israeli counterparts.

 

[Linglinglonglong]

Add a bit of drug to get us high per jab la. This way I look fwd to my jab every 6 mths

 

[Maxico]

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[Sideswipe]

Aiyah just offer $100 per shot.

And also lottery win $1m.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-covid-kenney-hinshaw-1.6163826

yeah. in SG, you get $30 for getting an elderly to take the shot. the Govt should pay the elderly several hundreds dollars for a 3rd shot. if that's the case, there will be long queues outside the vaccination centers daily. they will ask when can take the 4th shot ?

 

[LaoTze]

Israel DOES NOT use China vaccines at all,
but Israel uses only Moderna+Pfizzer vaccines, and that is why Israel has record number of daily cases now, and the number of daily cases in Israel is now higher than before vaccination started, and the vast majority of Israel people have already been vaccinated .

The reason for the failure to stop virus spread in Israel and also in Singapore,
is because Moderna+Pfizzer vaccines, are NOT EFFECTIVE against the delta variant, and the effectiveness will keep dropping every month.

Both Israel and Singapore made the same mistake, of naively and trusting in full, the USA fake news media claim, that wildly overstate the effectiveness of vaccines like Moderna+Pfizzer vaccines, and the same USA fake news media FALSELY CLAIM that China vaccines are not effective, but in the real world, China vaccines turn out to be the most effective, especially against the Delta variant .

Click the graph below,
and see for yourself,
the exploding and record number of daily virus cases in Israel, which uses the moderna and pfizzer vaccines at

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

Now click the graph below, and see for yourself that daily virus cases in China which uses only China vaccines, has already stabilized and life is back to normal since 17 months ago at
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

Now click the graph below, and see for yourself that daily virus cases in Bahrain which uses mainly China vaccines, has already stabilized and life is back to normal at
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/bahrain/

Now click the graph below, and see for yourself that daily virus cases in Chile which uses mainly China vaccines, has already stabilized and life is back to normal at
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/chile/

 

[zhihau]

Israel DOES NOT use China vaccines at all,
but Israel uses only Moderna+Pfizzer vaccines, and that is why Israel has record number of daily cases now, and the number of daily cases in Israel is now higher than before vaccination started, and the vast majority of Israel people have already been vaccinated .

Nice reminder- UK using which vaccine? Maybe that explains the difference between the infection rate vis-a-viz the death rate between the two nations.

 

[zhihau]

Astra zenecs is not an mrna vaccine!

So mrna vaccines suck!

Jia lat @eatshitndie better sell MRNA!

DAFUG!!! Then all the nations better prepare global class action suit against Pfizer!