Heart Problem: Why you should avoid Statins

[johnny333]

The reason why I stopped going to my cardiologist was because I was looking for a long term cure to my problem. My cardiologists was ok when it comes to putting in stents /angioplasty & recommending medication like vastarel, amaryl, plavix, statins,..., but was lacking when it came to recommending details on diet, exercise, supplements. In other words a typical medical practioner in the Spore health system. Never mind the high cost.

If you go to Malaysia there are doctors who actualy do a better job & they are also cheaper

One of the most common drugs a doctor will prescribe for cholesterol are statins. Commonly brand names: Lipitor, Mevacor, Pravochol, Zocor, Lescol, Crestor, Altocor, Pravigard, Advicor, Baycor, Lovastatin, .. These drugs are big business and in Spore health care is all about money.

If you are taking these drugs, better read up & understand the side effects of this class of drugs

Why are Statins bad for you?


1) Interfere with liver function
2) Interfere with sex hormones
3) interfere with cells ability to fight cancer
4) create a CoQ10 deficiency
5) deplete vitamin E & A (causes cancer)
6) Decrease ability of insulin to metabolize sugars(promotes arteriosclerosis, diabetes,)
7) Increased risk of nerve damage(polyneuropathy)
8) Cause Amnesia
9) create a selenium deficiency

What alternatives are there for lowering cholesterol

1) fibre e,g, Profibe( http://www.iherb.com/CerBurg-ProFibe-454-g/10780?at=0 )

2) Vitamin B3 e.g. Niacin time(a time release product from Carlson, http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Niacin-Time-500-mg-500-Tablets/9202

3) Red yeast(statin is derived from red yeast but the natural form is safer)
Wakunaga Kyolic Formula 107 Red yeast formula which contain garlic & red yeast. This product is recommended because it doesn't have citron which is carcinogenic. I've seen the Wakunaga brand being carried locally by Nature's Farm or you can get it at iHerb, http://www.iherb.com/Wakunaga-Kyoli...hytosterols-Formula-107-80-Capsules/4587?at=0

4)policosanol (http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Ultra-Policosanols-10-mg-100-Softgels/266?at=0)

5) lycopene.
For reducing LDL cholesterol 60 mg a day is recommended. If you are allergic to tomatoes you can consider
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Lycopene-15-mg-180-Soft-Gels/8437?at=0
I'm not allergic to tomatoes so can take the cheaper tomatoe based products like http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Lyc-O-Mato-15-mg-180-Softgel-Capsules/4136?at=0

6) Vitamin C This vitamin is water soluble & will exit from the body, so look for a product which is time released
http://www.iherb.com/Natural-Factors-Vitamin-C-Time-Release-1000-mg-180-Tablets/2556?at=0

7) Vitamin E
Avoid the artificial Vitamin E & go for the natural product which has both tocotrienol & tocopherol which is more active.
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-E-Gems-Elite-400-IU-120-Softgels/2789?at=0
This is a very important vitamin so don't ignore.

8) Sytrinol :

9 Pantethine

10) magnesium
Most people are deficient in this vital ingredient. Its an essential & a cheap supplement. I take about 400 mg/day. The sources I've read recommend 800mg to 1000mg/day. It also helps with sleep. Had trouble with deep breathing until I increased my intake to 400mg

11) Combination formulas
It is time consuming & costly to take so many products. There are products with a combination of ingredients, I'm experimenting with some of these products
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Heart-Science-120-Tablets/1232?at=0

Disclaimer: If you are currently taking statins & want to reduce your dependance, work with your doctor or go find a more understanding doctor. You probably have to find one in Malaysia

If you are using Statins its important to replace the CoQ10 that statins deplete. Not all Coq10 products are equal. There are issues with bioavailability. I'm trying out Jarrow Q-abosrb products, http://www.jarrow.com/qh-absorb

Local stores don't stock the range of products like they do in the US.
Other than the range they offer discounts on some products if you get more than 4 pcs of some products. You even get further discounts discounts(4% - 16%) based on the amount of your total order. I maximise the discounts by ordering at least US$350 worth of products. The stocks usually have a shelf life of 2 to 3 years.
iHerbs current shipping rate is US$18 by DHL or UPS & takes 3 to 4 days to reach Spore. In Spore DHL/UPS will will charge gst & an SIN$10 admin fee. They sometimes even have specials like US$10 shipping

Tip: If you want to receive a further discount of US$5.00 use the discount code "KOK015" kilo-oscar-kilo-zero-one-five.

 

[jim007jimmyboy]

thx for info.....

 

[Eurekas]

Thanks for informing us the long term effects and dangers of statins

 

[johnny333]

If the doctor presribes statins don't be afraid to be pro-active & challenge him by asking questions like if it is really necessary. Don't be like an idiot like me & just quietly accept it.

I know that the doctors in Spore are supposed to be the experts but you'd be surprised at how unknowledgeable these 'experts' really are.

For example when I brought the subject of CoQ10. The doctor didn't think I needed it even though he was presribing statins

I've been reading alot of the literature & C0Q10 is strongly recommended, even if you don't take statins. The japanese have been using it for decades. I take at least 100mg of the bioavailable form Q-absorb.

I take $250 to $350 worth of supplements a month but if I was still visiting a cardiologist I'd be spending $400 to $500 on doctor visits/medication & tests. By taking the supplements I hope to avoid other problems like cancer.

Spores very polluted, I know of at least 2 non-smokers who've died of lung cancer. Have an older relative who's been going to Australia for medical care & there are doctors there who are prescsribing supplements to detox & strengthen the body. All these years & he's still alive despite not having the heart operation the doctors in Spore recommended

Taking the proper supplements is just part of the solution. Don't forget you need to change your diet. Avoid fried foods, red meats, trans fats,.sugars, salt.., eat your veggies & fruits.

 

[kensington]

Taking the proper supplements is just part of the solution. Don't forget you need to change your diet. Avoid fried foods, red meats, trans fats,.sugars, salt.., eat your veggies & fruits.

And plenty of excercise too. Go for walks, park your car further away even if there is a parking space nearer. Go for excercise snacks, i.e. 5 minutes here, 5 minutes there... They all add up in the long run.

 

[johnny333]

And plenty of excercise too. Go for walks, park your car further away even if there is a parking space nearer. Go for excercise snacks, i.e. 5 minutes here, 5 minutes there... They all add up in the long run.

Spore is a humid place. If you are having trouble with the humidity
take walks in the mall, or plan your walks at night.

For those shy or easily bored by walking can condsider getting a Nintendo Wii & a balance board. Can try games like Wii fit, Active life Outdoor challenge, EA Active Personal Trainer, My Fitness Coach,..

If you have the space get a mini trampline(rebounder) from Aibi & jump.
http://www.urbanrebounding.com/
http://www.qibounding.com/
Read somewhere that jumping will detox your cells

Exercise doesn't have to be boring

 

[johnny333]

For those who are already taking statins you should take steps to replace the deficiency the drug causes. The bare minimum recommended by Dr. S.A Rogers(The cholesterol Hoax) are the following:


Vitamin E - take 1 - 2 per day
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-E-Gems-Elite-400-IU-120-Softgels/2789?at=0


Cod liver oil take 1 - 3 tsp per day
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Norwegian-Cod-Liver-Oil-Lemon-Flavor-8-4-fl-oz-250-ml/2798?at=0

Super 2 daily - 2 soft gels per day
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Super-2-Daily-with-Fish-Oil-Lutein-120-Softgels/2795?at=0

Phoschol - 3 - 9 softgel per day
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-PPC-900-mg-30-Softgels/3348?at=0


liquid multiiple minerals- 1 - 2 per day
http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Liquid-Multiple-Minerals-360-Soft-Gels/9350?at=0

CoQ10- 80 -240mg per day

 

[johnny333]

If you want to find out more of the pros & cons of statin go to the following URL:

http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/M...tatins&hiword=STATI STATIN STATINSOR statins


The Life Extension magazines are available at the National Library but its relatively new. So if you want to read past issues just go to the above site & you can find all current & past issues under the magazine menu.

 

[ps07857]

try Crestor (Rosuvastatin) that's the best!

 

[johnny333]

try Crestor (Rosuvastatin) that's the best!

The article recommends looking first at other natural solutions before considering statins. If you are already taking statins you should be looking at the other natural solutions to cut your dependance on statins.

This might include red yeast which the Pharma companies are refining to produce statins. Taking red yeast avoids many of the problems of taking statins. Red yeast is also available without a prescription.
Recommend a combination products such as Red yeast with Coq10.

Who wants to take statins forever

 

[middaydog]

Why are Statins bad for you?
2) Interfere with sex hormone
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7) Increased risk of nerve damage(polyneuropathy)

no wonder, every time I collect Lipitor from my GP I have to tell him " Doc, give me a box of Cialis also please ":(

 

[johnny333]

no wonder, every time I collect Lipitor from my GP I have to tell him " Doc, give me a box of Cialis also please ":(

Thats the problem with medication, you need some other medication to counter the side effects.

The medicines you're taking probably only control the problem but does not fix the problem. One has to worry about the other hidden side effects.

Read the artical & use it as a guideline to weed yourself from statin. Taking fibre, garlic, red yeast, fish oil,.....is I think a better solution.

If you need cialis you might want to look into Prelox which is a natural remedy:
http://www.iherb.com/search?kw=prelox
An ingredient in Prelox is pycnogenol which is pine bark, a well known anti-oxidant.

 

[lolabunny]

Yup. Most of these drugs are super duper bad for you old folks.

Western medication often have side effects. Big Pharma makes
load of moolah off you OLD people. :p --> only seniors and baby boomers will post articles like this.

Eat Vitamin E in your fruits and veggies -- choose the light coloured ones
like cabbage. -->

Lastly, getting a gf half your age always helps if you are a senior. Nothing like keeping up with a bouncing young babe to make an old uncle relive his long gone youth eh?

Though the flip side is, if she fights with you or walk around nekkid all the time, that may trigger heart attacks.

Therefore, make sure you two don't speak the same language. So if she scolds
you, you can laugh and say "sorry don't understand". Too bad if you are multi-lingual though.

As for the walkin around nekkid part, just bear with it. :p Afterall, old guys are longsighted right? Give it another ten years and maybe you won't see so well anymore.

PS: TS is eating too much supplements. It's better to get it off a balanced diet. The dosage found in commercial supplements are often too high. You may end up taxing your liver and kidneys, especially if you are an old guy. Take note.

 

[middaydog]

Lastly, getting a gf half your age always helps if you are a senior. Nothing like keeping up with a bouncing young babe to make an old uncle relive his long gone youth

I am 70, :(

are you 35 yet ?

 

[lolabunny]

If the doctor presribes statins don't be afraid to be pro-active & challenge him by asking questions like if it is really necessary. Don't be like an idiot like me & just quietly accept it.

I know that the doctors in Spore are supposed to be the experts but you'd be surprised at how unknowledgeable these 'experts' really are.

For example when I brought the subject of CoQ10. The doctor didn't think I needed it even though he was presribing statins

Our doctors here are NOT knowledgeable at all oh please. They only see mild cases of urban conditions like coughs, cold, fevers, flu, impotence and what not.

 

[lolabunny]

I am 70, :(

are you 35 yet ?

I'm 19. Anyone older than 40 is illegal for moi.

 

[tioliaohuat]

if you have heart problem, is mean that you are a non - smoker. LOL

 

[johnny333]

I'm 19. Anyone older than 40 is illegal for moi.

Lifes tough in Spore & its not going to get any easier.

I'm seeing many grey haired/balding teens out there & with MacD, KFC, hawker facing high costs, the diet of Sporeans have changed for the worse. To that add all the new man made pollutants.

I predict that the young generation will age faster than past generations :(
Already seeing people in their 20's dying during NS, reservist. The young are already suffering from "old persons" diseases.

As for commercial vitamins being too high a dosage, many studies are now finding that recommended dosages are "too low" I've yet to hear from anyone dying from vitamin overdose, so I don't think its a problem

 

[johnny333]

Big Pharma makes
load of moolah off you OLD people. :p --> only seniors and baby boomers will post articles like this.

Eat Vitamin E in your fruits and veggies -- choose the light coloured ones
like cabbage. -->

PS: TS is eating too much supplements. It's better to get it off a balanced diet. The dosage found in commercial supplements are often too high. You may end up taxing your liver and kidneys, especially if you are an old guy. Take note.

Spore health system generates alot of $$$. Once you're caught up in the system they ask you to go for "regular" checkups. Add to that the medication & you're stuck with high medical costs.

Youngsters better pay attention because even the young are facing these health problems.

One should be consuming daily, 4 servings of fruit & 5 servings of veggies of 6 colors & not only light colored ones .

The majority of people are dying of cancer & heart & not liver/kidney failure. However if one is worried about taxing your body you can choose one of the "whole food" vitamins. These products contain natural food products with the necessary vitamins.

 

[johnny333]

if you have heart problem, is mean that you are a non - smoker. LOL

Many doctors/books will tell you that you MUST give up smoking if you have a heart problem.

Smoking creates alot of free radicals which causes alot of damage that someone suffering from a heart problem can't afford.