HDB Supposed to Last for 99years But It is Almost Not Fit for Living after 40yrs

[Papsmearer]

I have been saying this for a long time. The HDB does not intend to honour the 99 year lease for the simple reason their flats will not last 99 years. In other countries like HKG, the lease is 60 years or roughly one lifetime. U stay in that flat after you buy it at 25 years old and it last you till you die. So why do they sell it with 99 years lease? Imagine this. Lets say you pay $400K for your flat with 99 years lease. If the lease was reduced to 60 years, can they still sell the flat for $400K. Obviously no. If you pro rate it out, the same flat with a 60 year lease is worth $240K. Which do you think the PAP prefer to earn?

 

[laksaboy]

HDB flats are eligible for home improvement program after 30 years. think 80% of the residents have to vote in favor for it to proceed. don't know the details. i wouldn't want major upgrading program which lasts 1.5 to 2 years with lots of constructions noises and inconveniences. but some lite home improvement program for toilets, windows, pipes, doors etc... ( residents to pay small sum of money ) would be very much welcome.

Voting at the Home Improvement Program is a farce. It's a mixture of high pressure sales, veiled threats and arm twisting.

Eventually they will get the 80% of yes votes.

 

[eatshitndie]

The other major issue is the use of bricks. In the older HDB flats, they construct the walls by laying brick by brick manually. Then plaster over. For interior walls, this might be ok. But for units facing the exterior (like end units), I have been told that some of the mortar is not binding the bricks anymore. The exposure of the outer walls to sun and rain eventually erodes the outer plaster and damages the mortar. Hence, water leaks through the bricks. I think one good kick and those walls would fall out and the flat dweller will get a free balcony view.

yalor. "hole in the wall" can kill two birds with one stone - pedestrian below gets crushed and resident above can jump.

 

[nightsafari]

water seepage and absorption by concrete pose another problem to the layer of rebar, which gets rusty and loses bonding to the cement over time. the way the rebar layers are interwoven in the concrete can either provide a 3-dimensional cage or mesh for rebar to hold concrete together even if there’s rust or lead to concrete peeling off as in spalling as rebar layer is only 2-dimensional like meat in a hamburger or lettuce in a sandwich.

wow! you really know your stuff!

 

[kkbutterfly]

Eatshitndie how come everything you also know?

he is a construction civil engineer.

 

[kkbutterfly]

The other major issue is the use of bricks. In the older HDB flats, they construct the walls by laying brick by brick manually. Then plaster over. For interior walls, this might be ok. But for units facing the exterior (like end units), I have been told that some of the mortar is not binding the bricks anymore. The exposure of the outer walls to sun and rain eventually erodes the outer plaster and damages the mortar. Hence, water leaks through the bricks. I think one good kick and those walls would fall out and the flat dweller will get a free balcony view.

i think you watch too much chinese kong fu movie. i key on the ememnies, the guy fell onto the wall and the wall collapse with lot of dust effects.

 

[eatshitndie]

Eatshitndie how come everything you also know?

ever heard of preppers building their own underground bunkers?

 

[eatshitndie]

wow! you really know your stuff!

wait till we discuss yard improvement. just finished redoing entire yard with tree removals, sextensive weed barriers, repiping sprinkler and drip systems, replanting of fruit trees and shrubs, and resodding of lawn during lockdown.

 

[nightsafari]

wait till we discuss yard improvement. just finished redoing entire yard with tree removals, sextensive weed barriers, repiping sprinkler and drip systems, replanting of fruit trees and shrubs, and resodding of lawn during lockdown.

holee shit! Actually, I've been eyeing your fruit trees for a damn long time now... Can't wait to hear it.

 

[nightsafari]

ever heard of preppers building their own underground bunkers?

you have one??!

 

[eatshitndie]

holee shit! Actually, I've been eyeing your fruit trees for a damn long time now... Can't wait to hear it.

loquat is full of fruit now. lemon is flowering. apricot is fruiting. apple is cut to the stump. 6.9 more months and apricot will say goodbye as it’s decades and dying. and then there’s fig, olive and kumquat waiting to grow up.

 

[eatshitndie]

you have one??!

that one must be built on high ground and far away from urbanized areas. anyway, had to deal with concrete work in a couple of driveways and back patios so i’m quite familiar with concrete.

 

[nightsafari]

loquat is full of fruit now. lemon is flowering. apricot is fruiting. apple is cut to the stump. 6.9 more months and apricot will say goodbye as it’s decades and dying. and then there’s fig, olive and kumquat waiting to grow up.

I'm assuming it's not just plant a tree any old where and watch it grow. Some system of placement to optimize watering, light and exposure as a guess? apple tree are you going to remove the stump?

 

[eatshitndie]

I'm assuming it's not just plant a tree any old where and watch it grow. Some system of placement to optimize watering, light and exposure as a guess? apple tree are you going to remove the stump?

rule of thumb is 6.9 feet radius for larger trees and 6.9 feet diameter for miniature trees. nope, apple is coming back. young branches sprouting out of stump. will keep it.

 

[nightsafari]

rule of thumb is 6.9 feet radius for larger trees and 6.9 feet diameter for miniature trees. nope, apple is coming back. young branches sprouting out of stump. will keep it.

then the apricot will renew liddat or not?

 

[Semaj2357]

holee shit! Actually, I've been eyeing your fruit trees for a damn long time now... Can't wait to hear it.

hanor, you better beware - especially of those low-hanging fruits.
tiagong those loquats are the ones that love to squat low within arms reach, and you don't want to end up with 6.9 kgs of hairy rambutans

loquat is full of fruit now. lemon is flowering. apricot is fruiting. apple is cut to the stump. 6.9 more months and apricot will say goodbye as it’s decades and dying. and then there’s fig, olive and kumquat waiting to grow up.

 

[eatshitndie]

then the apricot will renew liddat or not?

dying liao. will not recover.

 

[winnipegjets]

wait till we discuss yard improvement. just finished redoing entire yard with tree removals, sextensive weed barriers, repiping sprinkler and drip systems, replanting of fruit trees and shrubs, and resodding of lawn during lockdown.

I didn't know jaga has so much time. I did jaga work ....after night duty, sleep till afternoon. Then makan, bathe and back to work.

 

[eatshitndie]

I didn't know jaga has so much time. I did jaga work ....after night duty, sleep till afternoon. Then makan, bathe and back to work.

cb mah. kena stuck at home.

 

[winnipegjets]

cb mah. kena stuck at home.

SF got cb too? PAP influence very quat ...spread to USA too.