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Chitchat Good Saudi Family Wants To Kill Their SYT Daughter For Renouncing Islam! Standoff In Bangkok Airport! Will Buddhists Save Apostate From Muslims?

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Thai immigration officials had tried to return Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun, 18, to Kuwait, where her family is.

She refused to board a flight to Kuwait City on Monday, and barricaded herself into her hotel room at Bangkok airport.

The teenager said she believed her family would kill her if she went back because she had renounced Islam.

The Thai authorities said her status would be assessed by the UN refugee agency.

"My brothers and family and the Saudi embassy will be waiting for me in Kuwait," she told Reuters.

"My life is in danger. My family threatens to kill me for the most trivial things."

Rights groups including Human Rights Watch have expressed grave concerns for Ms Mohammed al-Qunun, who arrived at Bangkok's international airport on a flight from Kuwait. She had travelled to Thailand for a connecting flight to Australia, where she hoped to seek asylum.

Thailand's chief of immigration police Surachate Hakparn said on Monday afternoon local time that the country would "protect her as best we can".

"She is now under the sovereignty of Thailand, no-one and no embassy can force her to go anywhere," he said. "We will talk to her and do whatever she requests.

"Since she escaped trouble to seek our help... we will not send anyone to their death."

An injunction filed by Thai lawyers in Bangkok criminal court to stop the deportation was dismissed earlier on Monday.

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Thailand is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention, and provides no legal protection to asylum-seekers - although there are more than 100,000 refugees in the country.

How did the stand-off start?
Ms Mohammed al-Qunun says that when she arrived in Bangkok on Saturday, her passport was seized by a Saudi diplomat who met her coming off the flight.

On Sunday, Thailand said she was being deported because she did not meet the requirements for a Thai visa.

However, Ms Mohammed al-Qunun insists she has a visa for Australia, and never wanted to stay in Thailand.

The Saudi embassy in Bangkok said Saudi Arabia did not have the authority to hold her at the airport, and said she was stopped by Thai authorities for "violating the law".

Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director for Human Rights Watch, told the BBC: "It seems that the Thai government is manufacturing a story that she tried to apply for a visa and it was denied... in fact, she had an onward ticket to go to Australia, she didn't want to enter Thailand in the first place."

He argued that the Thai authorities had clearly co-operated with Saudi Arabia, as Saudi officials were able to meet the plane when it arrived.

How was the world alerted?
Ms Mohammed al-Qunun started attracting attention with her social media posts over the weekend. She has also given a friend access to her Twitter account, calling it a contingency in case anything should happen to her.

"I shared my story and my pictures on social media and my father is so angry because I did this... I can't study and work in my country, so I want to be free and study and work as I want," she said.

Women in Saudi Arabia are subject to male guardianship laws, which mean they need a male relative's permission to work, travel, marry, open a bank account, or even leave prison.

Ms Mohammed al-Qunun wrote on Twitter that she had decided to share her name and details because she had "nothing to lose" now.

She has asked for asylum from governments around the world.

A photo appeared of her in her room as officials reportedly stood outside, waiting to put her on a flight back to Kuwait.



Why are there fears for her welfare?
Ms Mohammed al-Qunun told the BBC that she had renounced Islam, and feared her family would kill her if she was sent back to Saudi Arabia.

Freedom of religion is not legally protected in the Islamic kingdom, and people who convert to another religion from Islam risk being charged with apostasy - or abandoning their religious beliefs.

The crime is legally punishable by death - although courts have not carried out a death sentence in recent years.

Alternatively, Ms Mohammed al-Qunun could be charged with terrorism. Saudi Arabia's counter-terrorism law and a series of related decrees are used to criminalise a wide range of acts, including insulting the country's reputation, harming public order, and "calling for atheist thought in any form".

An adult woman who does not heed her guardian can also be arrested on charges of "disobedience". If a woman is detained for any reason, the police will not release her unless her guardian comes to pick her up, even if she faces no criminal charges.

Ms Mohammed al-Qunun's case echoes that of another Saudi woman who was in transit to Australia in April 2017.

Dina Ali Lasloom, 24, was en route from Kuwait via the Philippines but was taken back to Saudi Arabia from Manila airport by her family.

She used a Canadian tourist's phone to send a message, a video of which was posted to Twitter, saying her family would kill her.

Her fate on arriving back in Saudi Arabia remains unknown.

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When someone seeks asylum, the first country where they land will be one to give her the asylum. Not the country of her choice which is Australia.

I think she is going to be a Thai citizen.
 
The world should turn against the Saudis. That country produced Osama Bin Laden and has caused the world to spend hundreds of billions on security. It is time for Trump to conquer Saudis and make himself the ruler there.
 
Y would anyone want to renounce a beautiful religion like Islam ? She should seriously repent.
 
If she really board the plane that could be the last sight of her.:biggrin:
 
When someone seeks asylum, the first country where they land will be one to give her the asylum. Not the country of her choice which is Australia.

I think she is going to be a Thai citizen.
Muslims in thailand were persecuted under thaksin.
 
Luckily she is in Thailand, otherwise things may not be so easy for her.
This is why ( based on 2011 figures) , 95 percent of North Koreans arriving in South Korea were reportedly sent from Thailand (who travelled overland via China and Laos.)
Thailand means land of free -something the 70% may not understand
 
I am now awaiting the resident mudslime whore to defend his religion of 'peace' and racial 'harmony' to condemn the gal for running away
 
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I wish her luck. Too bad she is not chio, else I would grant her asylum in my bedroom.
 
How female can have Mohammed name? i tot only male take Mohd name?
 
How female can have Mohammed name? i tot only male take Mohd name?
You fool. Saudis, like malays, uses bin or binti which means son or daughter of the father. But if we use western format, they take the fathers name as surname.
 
The world should turn against the Saudis. That country produced Osama Bin Laden and has caused the world to spend hundreds of billions on security. It is time for Trump to conquer Saudis and make himself the ruler there.
US love saudis as they are big investors. They can do whatever they want as their investments are too big to mess around with. Plus huge arms purchasers.
 
Freedom of faith is the bastion of islamic beliefs before it turned into a religion. Muslims sometimes recite, to you your faith, to me mine, seversl times a day during their rituals.
But the clerics hijacked islam and now its more like a ideology, say like stalin's communism. Believers are so scared to stray off course for fear of being branded a infidel or herectic.
 
Freedom of faith is the bastion of islamic beliefs before it turned into a religion. Muslims sometimes recite, to you your faith, to me mine, seversl times a day during their rituals.
But the clerics hijacked islam and now its more like a ideology, say like stalin's communism. Believers are so scared to stray off course for fear of being branded a infidel or herectic.
But religion is more atas than ideology
 
Just nuke the whole of Middle East including Israel and save the world of the mess ... :D
 
Then the Mohd should come after her name not before...

e.g faitma Mohd not Mohd fatima
 
You fool. Saudis, like malays, uses bin or binti which means son or daughter of the father. But if we use western format, they take the fathers name as surname.
A Hokkien slang in Singapore and Malaysia. 'Ah Gua' meaning a man acting like a woman. To certain extend, it could mean transvestite. 'Chow' means 'stink', it is added in front of 'ah gua' to increase the impact! Try it! Can you stop wearing that tiny white shorts, you chow ah gua!
 
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The case of Rahaf Alqunun (centre) has drawn a lot of attention from concerned Saudis.
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The case of Rahaf Alqunun, which has exploded on social media and made headlines around the world, has drawn attention to Saudi Arabia's strict guardianship system.
It means women are legally controlled by a male relative who make a range of decisions on their behalf — including granting permission for a Saudi woman to work, marry, and travel.
How the asylum saga unfolded

Saudi teenager Rahaf Alqunun "was terrified" as officials in Bangkok tried to get her onto a flight to Kuwait
Human rights groups have called for the system to be abolished, saying it can trap women and girls as prisoners of abusive families.
In Ms Alqunun's case, she says she was forced to flee the country and barricade herself in a Bangkok airport hotel for fear she would be harmed or killed by her family for renouncing Islam.
"What you're seeing in Rahaf's case, for example, is she has said her family has been violent towards her, that she was beaten and locked up in her room simply for cutting her hair," Egyptian-born feminist writer and academic Mona Eltahawy told ABC's PM program.
"Now what does a Saudi woman do in that situation under the guardianship system?
"It's very difficult for her to leave her home, it's very difficult for her to get legal redress."​
But why is it so hard for women to leave? We asked Ms Eltahawy to explain how the guardianship system works and its impact on Saudi women.
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Egyptian-American journalist Mona Eltahawy discusses Saudi Arabia's guardianship laws
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The system of male guardianship is still very much in place in Saudi Arabia and means every woman passes from the control of one male legal guardian to another from childhood to adulthood.
King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has tried to limit its scope and the kingdom has granted women greater rights in recent years — including the right to drive, run and vote in local elections and play sports in school.
But the reforms have been limited and Ms Eltahawy said Mohammed Bin Salman, who she called the de-facto leader of Saudi Arabia, "is definitely no emancipator of women".
"I think that he has, unfortunately, been able to fool many of Saudi Arabia's western allies and many western media … wanting to say he is emancipating [women].
"He is not … in the same way that South Africa used racial apartheid, Saudi Arabia uses the guardianship system as a form of gender apartheid."

PHOTO King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (right) has tried to limit the scope of Saudi Arabia's guardianship system.
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Who can be a woman's guardian?
Guardians are male relatives, usually a husband, father or uncle, but in some circumstances a brother or a son can even become his mother's guardian.
"Now this could be a grown woman, a professor, who needs her teenaged son's permission if his older male relatives are dead," Ms Eltahawy said.
"The guardianship system basically renders women and girls from birth to death perpetual minors."
What do women need permission to do?

PHOTO Rahaf Alqunun was placed under the protection of the United Nations in Bangkok.
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Women need a guardian's permission for things like travelling abroad, marrying or leaving jail, and in some cases, working or receiving medical care.
They also struggle to conduct the business of their everyday life without a male relative — including registering to vote, renting an apartment, and filing legal claims.
A Human Rights Watch report on the system in 2016 found some guardians have even conditioned their consent for women to work or to travel "on her paying him large sums of money".
So how does this impact women?
Ben Rich, a lecturer in international relations and Middle East politics at Curtin University, says despite a recent focus on emerging women's rights in the country, "women still remain extremely in the place of second-class citizenry".
"Much of [women's] legal and economic autonomy is still captured under the guardianship laws, in which they need to have a male guardian — be that their father, their husband, or even in some cases their son — make important legal decisions that they have no ability over," he said.
"[Alqunun's case] is a real demonstration of that.
"Her claims that she's been abused physically and mentally is not particularly unexpected under those types of conditions."​
So what happens to women who flee or speak out?
Those who decide to speak out can be put in jail or condemned publicly.
"There are 17 feminists in Saudi prisons who clearly show us the dangers of being feminists and human rights activists," Ms Eltahawy said.

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She says the Crown Prince wants to tell Saudi Arabians that activism doesn't work and instead wants people to think that what the regime gives is what works.
"The Saudi regime is terrified the guardianship system could in any way be attacked or called into question by these activists," she said.
"So what that says for the future of activism in Saudi Arabia is that we must pay attention to these activists in prison because we have heard that they have been tortured."
Meanwhile, Saudi females who flee their families are almost always running away from abusive male relatives, often a father or brother in fear they could be killed after publicly denouncing the faith or publicising their identities online.
According to the Associated Press, there are no public statistics available for how many Saudi women try to flee abroad each year, but recent statistics show an estimated 577 Saudi women tried to flee their homes within Saudi Arabia in 2015.

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Adam Coogle, Middle East researcher at Human Rights Watch, told Reuters the desire for women to escape these "awful situations" is understandable, but also dangerous.
Experts say cases where women have fled have ended badly, with some women disappearing after being forcibly returned to their countries.
Others are jailed for violating so-called obedience laws and only a male guardian can sign for their release, while some have become destitute or trapped in legal limbo.
In extreme instances, some have been found dead.
So is Ms Alqunun still at risk?
Ms Eltahawy said many Saudis have openly expressed some concern for her situation and are very worried about her.
"And it's not just because, for now, she's gained a reprieve from being deported and repatriated, but also more troublingly her father is a powerful man," she said.
"It's come to light that her father is a governor of a province in Saudi Arabia, which means that he is connected to the highest powers of that kingdom and that means he has a lot of muscle behind him.
"So yes, they can try to find her."
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