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Low Thia Khiang will repent till the day he die for letting a golden insect fly away.
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Goh Meng Seng: WP may split
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Low Thia Khiang will repent till the day he die for letting a golden insect fly away.
The biggest crisis that WP faced was the split between JBJ and LTK. However LTK prevailed, and manage to steer WP to new heights today. YSL does not have JBJ's clout to cause even a ripple within WP leadership.
If someone like Chiam were to give well-intended advice, I believe LTK and other WP leaders will listen and take them seriously. But will they have to listen to a loser who had accomplished nothing personally and politically? What is his standing in the political community? WP leaders are well aware, as much as we do, of his narcissistic personality. I don't think WP leaders will take seriously a non-achiever who decides to hang a dog tag around his neck that reads "political observer".
If someone like Chiam were to give well-intended advice, I believe LTK and other WP leaders will listen and take them seriously. But will they have to listen to a loser who had accomplished nothing personally and politically? What is his standing in the political community? WP leaders are well aware, as much as we do, of his narcissistic personality. I don't think WP leaders will take seriously a non-achiever who decides to hang a dog tag around his neck that reads "political observer".
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JW5, see? Even SNABlog who usually provides only the news and rarely comments, also cannot tahan.
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Chiam is the worst person to take advice from in case of a split. He lost in a split. That SDP episode was a real political split, over political reasons. However, there wasn't any political split in WP. It was JBJ dragging CEC members into defamation damages and they had to protect themselves from nothing of their faults. LTK happened to be the only MP left then and entrusted by the majority to protect them instead of letting JBJ drag them in further and deeper. If there wasn't an LTK around, WP would have folded since everyone might as well choose to resign and walk off. Do you or do you not believe in democracy, or do you believe JBJ must be right and supreme? If so, why didn't you sell your house and empty your bank account to back JBJ? Was that anything wrong or immoral over blind idol worshipping of JBJ? You judge for yourselves, imagining yourself one of them risking losing all property and assets.
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Chiam was an MP for 27 years. Does someone who stood for only two elections, and lost, carries the same weight as Chiam?
As for JBJ, read my post again before you start ranting and detract. If Perspective can understand, I don't see how you don't.
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Chiam was an MP for 27 years. Does someone who stood for only two elections, and lost, carries the same weight as Chiam?
As for JBJ, read my post again before you start ranting and detract. If Perspective can understand, I don't see how you don't.
Understanding is subjective and relative, if you read the gist of what I wrote. Why should LTK seek advice from outsiders? Anyway, LTK and CST are on very good terms and LTK do listen sometimes to CST advice, selectively, that's his prerogative and discretion. I don't understand why you're comparing CST to GMS???
Relative or subjective, again, no need to detract.
Let me reiterate:
LTK and his team can think for themselves, but even if they need advice, they would listen to someone who carries weight in the political community like Chiam(You may think that Chiam is the worst person to give any advice, but I don't). They will not listen to any Tom, Dick or Harry who had failed, and decides to wear a "political observer" dog tag to lift his ego.
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A party makes the right decision, we support --> BLIND SUPPORTER.
That's GMS logic for you.
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I think Chiam would actually be a good person to consult given his vast experience, which are enhanced precisely because he encountered, dealt with, and overcame big setbacks.
But dat's besides the pt. WP won't have a need to consult him or anyone because their CEC has enough brain matter to make decisions on their own. And anyway Chiam would be smart enough to know even he is not in the best position to advice on what goes on in any other party.
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Then he himself will throw in dashes of supporting words here and there like everyone else.
Very creepy, uncanny person, or insect.
He can praise, others cannot. He can pyro, others cannot.
Or does he mean anyone who is anti-GMS is pro-WP even if the topic does not relate to WP? Odd formula.
I mean, when was the last time he pyro PAP? Thought he was an oppositionist. Wonder if JXL can bring him to a doctor. Seriously.
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GMS seems to be suffering from perpetual PMS ever since his inglorious exit from WP. It obviously cast a long and dark shadow over his political ambitions. One wonders why the press keeps going to him for soundbites or is it the other way round? It doesn't really matter as both have long been discredited and for good reason too. What crap observations from a failed MP-wannabe! Epic fail!
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That being the case, can you make this thread a sticky? Goh Meng Seng wants attention, we all give him the attention he wants in the spirit of SBF brotherhood
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Aljunied GRC celebrated its Lunar New Year dinner this evening. 112 tables. Food prepared by Kian Seng Seafood Restaurant. Key WP leaders were present. Everybody enjoyed the celebration.
Pritam had his shirt tucked out machiam Ah Beng. But, what the heck! At least he was being himself. He sang Ai Pia Xia Ay Ya in Hokkien. Power! SL sang another Hokkien song. Super power.
I observed the main table where LTK and CSM were seated. Everyone was at ease with each other.
WP may split? Talk cock. The key leaders are united. If the non-key chaps want to leave, the door is always open.
Spoke to LTK on my interest in Hougang SMC. He told me my cupboard full of skeletons and my body full of shit. Application rejected!
Pritam had his shirt tucked out machiam Ah Beng. But, what the heck! At least he was being himself. He sang Ai Pia Xia Ay Ya in Hokkien. Power! SL sang another Hokkien song. Super power.
I observed the main table where LTK and CSM were seated. Everyone was at ease with each other.
WP may split? Talk cock. The key leaders are united. If the non-key chaps want to leave, the door is always open.
Spoke to LTK on my interest in Hougang SMC. He told me my cupboard full of skeletons and my body full of shit. Application rejected!
I take that as "tongue-in-cheek" comment from you. Let me categorically list down what I understand about GMS from now...
When WP did not take action against YSL, GMS criticized WP for not forthcoming with the public. When LTK accepted YSL's resignation, GMC complained the move is a spoiler. Finally after much bashing from GMS online, LTK sacked YSL, but still GMS complained it is too harsh.
Now...I am very confused what GMS actually wanted from WP. The closest clue could be he is horny and wanted full detail of YSL's sex life as to whether there was anal foul play, which pretty women were involved, who performed oral sex or what sexual style they adopted in bed? Come on, we do not need to know the detail, and for the family of those involved, we should not mingle politics with private matter. Discretion has it value by protecting innocent people surrounding the saga since it has no bearings whatsoever on YSL's service to his residents. If YSL choose to move on, we should respect his decision to live a new life. If he wishes to appeal to retain his seat in parliament, he will not hesitate at his own risk of disclosing more details. Thus, it is Yaw's ultimate decision that matter, whether there are unanimous votes to oust him is secondary, since Yaw is now given a 2nd chance to appeal. There is no necessity to scream publicly to exaggerate that WP splitted.
Compare to Yaw's sex story, I find GMS political career was no less dramatic too.
First he started in WP as "subordinate" under LTK leadership. Soon after he lost in Aljunied GRC, he quitted with "grievances?" that he was not able to blend into the party. Silvia Lim stays on as NCMP and I hope GMS reason to leave is not similar to that of Eric's impulsiveness.
Than a very good opportunity and goodwill from NSP, GMS finally sit on the throne similar to that of LTK and assumed greater responsibility. He could have put a good show and persist his leadership to prove LTK his perseverance to manage and control his party members. The last we heard from GMS why NSP lost in election was because his "subordinate" have different strategy or views - thus there was a split of opinion who to field where. I am not sure was it because his party members were difficult to manage? GMS quitted shortly after losing the election.
At this point in time, we could have expected GMS who was once Sec Gen to empathize with LTK position since himself has his own share of leading his team of "difficult" members. Unfortunately I don't see that happening except that he kept speaking to the media in detrimental tone which I believed will not bore well with TOC team and even his friend TKL. I hope if GMS still have a little bit of conscience in him, he should not be taking side with PAP or saved himself further humiliation because whatever he has spoken to msm, the real analyst and political observers are reading too, and they can easily sense revenge more than neutral opinion from him on the basis that these smart people believe no party in Singapore is ever perfect and there is no need to expose them in a manner that benefited PAP more than any opposition parties.
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