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Goh Meng Seng: Chee is "Tainted beyond hope" & "unelectable"

jw5 said:
Critique is ok, but he should not try to speak on behalf of CSJ's family by claiming that "his wife and children have suffered much". They look happy and well adjusted enough, GMS obviously has a case of the pappy mentality whereby you need to be rich and "stay out of the public eye unless you decide to post on facebook yourself" in order to be deemed to be enjoying life. He should not try to presume how other people feel based on his own sinkie standards. ;)
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CSJ got one happy family and they were very supportive of him. Even with the media glare, the kids are able to adjust and this is one great credit to CSJ and his wife.
 
RandomNexus said:
CSJ got one happy family and they were very supportive of him. Even with the media glare, the kids are able to adjust and this is one great credit to CSJ and his wife.
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Absolutely agree and I am with you on this. ;)
 

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jw5 said:
Critique is ok, but he should not try to speak on behalf of CSJ's family by claiming that "his wife and children have suffered much". They look happy and well adjusted enough, GMS obviously has a case of the pappy mentality whereby you need to be rich and "stay out of the public eye unless you decide to post on facebook yourself" in order to be deemed to be enjoying life. He should not try to presume how other people feel based on his own sinkie standards. ;)
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Had GMS contested in place of Chee, Murali would have garnered at least 75%.
Just my humble opinion..
 
kulgai said:
Had GMS contested in place of Chee, Murali would have garnered at least 75%.
Just my humble opinion..
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In my humble opinion, if GMS had contested, Murali would have garnered between 65 to 70%. ;)
 
GMS said he "checked on the demography of BB and found that it has an exceptionally high proportion of Indian voters. It is no wonder PAP is
willing to field an Indian candidate. Well, isn’t this ironic for PAP to accuse SDP of practicing “Racial politics”?

He should have raised the matter before polling day!
How many are new citizens from India, China, Philippines imported by the PAP?
Locals actually voted for these people to come in?
 
jw5 said:
Critique is ok, but he should not try to speak on behalf of CSJ's family by claiming that "his wife and children have suffered much". They look happy and well adjusted enough, GMS obviously has a case of the pappy mentality whereby you need to be rich and "stay out of the public eye unless you decide to post on facebook yourself" in order to be deemed to be enjoying life. He should not try to presume how other people feel based on his own sinkie standards. ;)
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Yes bro, I should think CSJ's kids are very well-adjusted and grounded. Based on what I saw during his documentary, and by reading what he wrote. His wife also appears to be very supportive, and a pillar of strength to him. She is so stoic and strong, a woman of substance. I believe the Chees are happier than most sinkie families. I feel happy for them, and hope they find greater happiness in the future. GMS is a typical born, bred and local educated sinkie. Enough said :D
 
RandomNexus said:
Go easy on GMS and he is one of us, and speaks like us. :rolleyes:
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I don't like to be harsh on people, especially opposition folks. They are macham our heroes, as far as I see it. But GMS, Lina Chiam.........hiaz disappointments lah.
 
glockman said:
I don't like to be harsh on people, especially opposition folks. They are macham our heroes, as far as I see it. But GMS, Lina Chiam.........hiaz disappointments lah.
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GMS may be clean as a whistle, but he is certainly much less electable than Chee. As for Lina, remember she polled close to 50% on Chiam's forey into Bishan, and was also NCMP for 1 term. If you cannot understand how she did that, you don't really understand sinkies. :rolleyes:
 
Goh Meng Seng is a hard-hitting politician and in this case, he may be well-intentioned too in his assessment of Dr Chee. However he is way off the mark in his post-mortem of the BB by election. Dr Chee is "tainted" by the PAP but certainly not beyond hope. Many hail him as a hero and a warrior worthy of being elected into parliament.As for"unelectable" I wouldnt bet on it. Dr Chee is still relatively young and full of vigour, notwithstanding a string of electoral defeats. Goh's PPP was roundly defeated too in CCK Grc. I am sure if he tries hard enough, he will be elected too but not before Dr Chee. Lol.
 
glockman said:
Yes bro, I should think CSJ's kids are very well-adjusted and grounded. Based on what I saw during his documentary, and by reading what he wrote. His wife also appears to be very supportive, and a pillar of strength to him. She is so stoic and strong, a woman of substance. I believe the Chees are happier than most sinkie families. I feel happy for them, and hope they find greater happiness in the future. GMS is a typical born, bred and local educated sinkie. Enough said :D
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GMS could have done with a stint in Cambridge or Harvard. :D
 
mojito said:
GMS may be clean as a whistle, but he is certainly much less electable than Chee. As for Lina, remember she polled close to 50% on Chiam's forey into Bishan, and was also NCMP for 1 term. If you cannot understand how she did that, you don't really understand sinkies. :rolleyes:
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With regards to Lina Chiam, I was referring to her releasing the statement on Cooling off day. Seems intentional, no?

And you are right, I don't understand sinkies. But one thing I am certain, they are anything but wise.
 
KuanTi01 said:
Goh Meng Seng is a hard-hitting politician and in this case, he may be well-intentioned too in his assessment of Dr Chee. However he is way off the mark in his post-mortem of the BB by election. Dr Chee is "tainted" by the PAP but certainly not beyond hope. Many hail him as a hero and a warrior worthy of being elected into parliament.As for"unelectable" I wouldnt bet on it. Dr Chee is still relatively young and full of vigour, notwithstanding a string of electoral defeats. Goh's PPP was roundly defeated too in CCK Grc. I am sure if he tries hard enough, he will be elected too but not before Dr Chee. Lol.
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At least they have one thing in common which is lacking in most sinkies - courage. ;)
 
For me, this act taints Mrs Chiam 'beyond hope'.

As for ANALyst GMS, I repeat my call to him to:
  • join SDP
  • mount a leadership challenge
  • depose / replace CSJ
  • unite all the opposition parties in Singapore (macam Genghis Khan in Mongolia)
  • take on the PAPzis
  • and become PM.


glockman said:
With regards to Lina Chiam, I was referring to her releasing the statement on Cooling off day. Seems intentional, no?

And you are right, I don't understand sinkies. But one thing I am certain, they are anything but wise.
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HTOLAS said:
For me, this act taints Mrs Chiam 'beyond hope'.

As for ANALyst GMS, I repeat my call to him to:
  • join SDP
  • mount a leadership challenge
  • depose / replace CSJ
  • unite all the opposition parties in Singapore (macam Genghis Khan in Mongolia)
  • take on the PAPzis
  • and become PM.
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All these items are so difficult to achieve, should include another one for him to "don't worry be happy". :D
 
jw5 said:
At least they have one thing in common which is lacking in most sinkies - courage. ;)
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I agree. Courage is lacking in most of us. That is why people like Dr. Chee is needed to galvanise the people in the search for a level playing field for true democracy to take root. We are currently a dictatorship of one-party rule with absolute command and control of everything under the Singapore sun. We are just a pseudo-democracy with lop-sided elections returning the same party to power since time immemorial. I don't think it is because PAP is so much loved by the people as opposed to fear of its absolute power. :rolleyes:
 
I find that Chee has lots more guts and character then Goh. How come Goh is bad mouthing everyone?
 
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