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Getting the Covid jab was the worst decision ever!

hollowman

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In life we made many decisions.
Covid jab is just 1 of it.
We cannot make a decision and then later kpkb.
Eg @ginfreely made a overnight decisions to purchase a jb whore house. She needs to bear the consequences.

Be clear minded
 

Leongsam

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A pity they had to pick out one death from a million jabs to prep up interest on a slow-news day. I bet more people have died from taking panadol. :biggrin:

This is how many people who would not have died if they had been vaccinated:

https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...n-estimated-20m-lives-during-their-first-year

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...een-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta


If it wasn't for the figures out of the African continent where vaxx rates are shockingly low I would have believed the articles you quote.

However looking at the data it would definitely appear that vaccines have made matters a lot worse.

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Leongsam

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It is what it is boss. All data (taken from reliable places and sources) point to the same conclusion: Vaccines help save lives.

The problem is that there is no such thing as a reliable source anymore. In the old days I would have trusted WHO, CDC etc but all these organisations have been compromised so the true picture of what is happening has to be inferred from the raw data available.
 

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The problem is that there is no such thing as a reliable source anymore. In the old days I would have trusted WHO, CDC etc but all these organisations have been compromised so the true picture of what is happening has to be inferred from the raw data available.
Source reliability has never been the problem. The problem lies with people's stupidity to believe in irresponsible postings on widely available social media.

It is a human trait to always think we know more than others. In the past, it was the irritating coffee shop gossippy auntie who would spread unfounded rumours that vaccinating babies would bring irreparable harm. Now in the age of the Internet, it is the morons here who are doing the same.

But medical breakthroughs and technologies will always find a way forward. Because of vaccines, smallpox has been eradicated, along with polio... The success of the mRNA involved in the covid vaccine is now researched into providing vaccines for certain cancers and HIV. :thumbsup:
 

Leongsam

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Source reliability has never been the problem. The problem lies with people's stupidity to believe in irresponsible postings on widely available social media.

It is a human trait to always think we know more than others. In the past, it was the irritating coffee shop gossippy auntie who would spread unfounded rumours that vaccinating babies would bring irreparable harm. Now in the age of the Internet, it is the morons here who are doing the same.

But medical breakthroughs and technologies will always find a way forward. Because of vaccines, smallpox has been eradicated, along with polio... The success of the mRNA involved in the covid vaccine is now researched into providing vaccines for certain cancers and HIV. :thumbsup:

I'm ignore articles. They are mere opinions of the author. I look at the graphs and draw my own conclusions.
 

dredd

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I'm ignore articles. They are mere opinions of the author. I look at the graphs and draw my own conclusions.
Graphs are sources of information. And depending on where they come from, they can lie as well.

A graph detailing "data" from Africa should always be taken in with a pinch of salt... :wink:
 

Leongsam

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How can I be a cuck when I am the only one standing up to idiots like yourself in this forum on something that is factually true: Vaccines save lives.

Do you even know what is the meaning of a cuck? :rolleyes:

It is also "factually true" that vaccines saves the lives of some while taking the lives of others. The ration of lives saved vs lives taken varies according to age group and it is my contention that below a certain age the risk vs reward isn't that favorable.
 

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It is also "factually true" that vaccines saves the lives of some while taking the lives of others. The ration of lives saved vs lives taken varies according to age group and it is my contention that below a certain age the risk vs reward isn't that favorable.
That is your view, derived from dodgy googling. It's not how others in the know see it: Without the vaccines, millions of lives would have been needlessly lost to covid - young AND old.

Small-brained people take the news of one unfortunate adverse death from vaccination and they think millions have died from it. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

Fact: The advantages of being vaccinated far outweighs that of not being vaccinated.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...cines-saved-estimated-20-million-lives-1-year
 

Leongsam

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That is your view, derived from dodgy googling. It's not how others in the know see it: Without the vaccines, millions of lives would have been needlessly lost to covid - young AND old.

Small-brained people take the news of one unfortunate adverse death from vaccination and they think millions have died from it. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

Fact: The advantages of being vaccinated far outweighs that of not being vaccinated.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...cines-saved-estimated-20-million-lives-1-year

LOL don't tell me you actually consider CIDRAP to be a reliable and independent news source!




CIDRAP awarded $1 million in grants to create a Coronavirus Vaccines R&D Roadmap​


April 26, 2022

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The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota announced today that it has received grants from The Rockefeller Foundation and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to create a Coronavirus Vaccines Research and Development (R&D) Roadmap aimed at developing broadly protective vaccines against betacoronaviruses, which predominantly circulate in bats and rodents and can “spill over” to human populations.
 

dredd

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LOL don't tell me you actually consider CIDRAP to be a reliable and independent news source!




CIDRAP awarded $1 million in grants to create a Coronavirus Vaccines R&D Roadmap​


April 26, 2022

Image of coronavirus vaccines
Credit: Manjurul/Getty Images

The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy(CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota announced today that it has received grants from The Rockefeller Foundation and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to create a Coronavirus Vaccines Research and Development (R&D) Roadmap aimed at developing broadly protective vaccines against betacoronaviruses, which predominantly circulate in bats and rodents and can “spill over” to human populations.
Yes, because they are reporting on the model analaysed in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, done by the good researchers at Imperial College London.

And just so you know, there's nothing wrong with getting grants for research work that will benefit mankind. :thumbsup:
 

Leongsam

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Yes, because they are reporting on the model analaysed in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, done by the good researchers at Imperial College London.

And just so you know, there's nothing wrong with getting grants for research work that will benefit mankind. :thumbsup:
Mention imperial college and the first thing that comes to mind is that clown Neil Ferguson who locked a whole nation down with wildly inaccurate forecasts. Im
Sorry but too many institutions have been tarnished for good.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/
 

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Mention imperial college and the first thing that comes to mind is that clown Neil Ferguson who locked a whole nation down with wildly inaccurate forecasts. Im
Sorry but too many institutions have been tarnished for good.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/

Dr. Clare Craig: It’s an “Absurd Fantasy That 20 Million Lives Have Been Saved From Vaccinations”

Imperial College has produced yet another fantasy number. This time they are "projecting" that 19.8 million lives have been saved by COVID-19 vaccination.

“They appear to be trying to test the gullibility of the public," said Dr. Clare Craig, a pathologist since 2001 working in the NHS.

In case you missed it, Imperial College has earned a global reputation for making provable wrong claims based on flawed modeling. Neil Ferguson’s models in 2020 were a total disaster.

Although this was not Neil Ferguson’s work, the latest model from Imperial College is also a disaster.

Modeling is nothing by glorified guessing based on extrapolating from assumptions of the authors’ choosing. The assumptions were so wild in the latest attempt that they reached the absurd fantasy of 20 million lives having been saved.

Take a look for yourself here.

https://www.hartgroup.org/imperial-fantasy-of-20-million-lives-saved/
 

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The completely useless PCR test generated astronomical case numbers which then formed the basis of “COVID-19” outbreak computer models. Outbreak modelling is notorious for its inaccurace predictions and produced “COVID-19” numbers that were preposterous and all based on worthless numbers.

Lockdown flouting Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London (ICL) has a long history of producing doom mongering wildly inaccurate speculative nonsense with his computer modelling.

In 2001, the ICL team did the modelling on foot and mouth disease which led to a cull of six million sheep, pigs and cattle costing the UK approximately £10 billion. The ICL work on this has been described as ‘severely flawed’ by real experts.

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would die from mad cow disease which he claimed could rise to 150,000 if sheep were involved. In the UK, the total number of deaths was 177.

In 2005, Ferguson claimed that up to 200 million people could be killed by bird flu. The total number of deaths was 282 worldwide.

In 2009, Ferguson and the ICL team claimed that swine flu would kill 65,000 people in the UK. In reality, swine flu killed 457 people in the UK.

Ferguson was the lead author of an ICL Report, published without peer review on 16 March 2021, predicting that 550,000 people in the UK and 2.2 million people in the US would die from COVID-19 within approximately three months.

When the Ferguson reports programming was eventually released for public scrutiny it was ridiculed by academic experts. It relied on 13-year-old computer coding intended to model flu which was a “buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming” according to one expert. Scientists at the University of Edinburgh reported that it failed “the basic scientific test of producing the same results given the same initial set of parameters”.

The ICL was rewarded with Gates Foundation grants for 2020 totalling US$91,494,791. Since 2002 the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have provided ICL with grants totalling US$302,164,640, which is US$16,000,000 per year for the last 19 years.

Inaccurate computer models based on false case numbers have resulted in fear and confusion leading to heated debates about why the “virus” behaves so differently in different places, whether or not there is excess mortality, and whether or not the “vaccines” are effective.

The aggressively marketed remedy for this alleged deadly virus is a spike protein produced by a genetic sequence that is not found in nature but in a US patent from 2007. The “vaccines” based on this sequence have killed many thousands of people around the world and injured millions more.

If these anti-science methods continue to be believed and accepted, we are likely to see even more pseudo pandemics requiring more “vaccines”, continuing indefinitely as part of the “new normal”. We are already seeing this with a steady stream of “variants of concern.”

There is nothing normal about the pharmaceutical industry and globalist organisations creating demand for unnecessary gene therapies through fear and the creation of pseudo-pandemics. There is nothing normal about the unprecedented censorship of scientific debate and the prevention of medical practitioners providing real advice and informed consent.

The virus isolation fraud, the artificial viral genome fraud (including new variants), the pathogenicity fraud, the PCR fraud, and the experimental gene therapy “vaccine” fraud are crimes against humanity enabled by virology’s unscientific self-referential scientism.

References
1 Fan Wu et al. “A new coronavirus associated with human respiratory disease in China”, Nature, Vol 579 (3 Feb 2020).

2 Peng Zhou et al. “A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin”, Nature, 579 (12 Mar 2020).

3 Na Zhu et al. “A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China, 2019”, The New England Journal of Medicine, 382 (20 Feb 2020).
 
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