Serious Formerly Good Minister Iswaran's Salary Now Reduced To $8500 Per Month Until Conviction! Oppies Happy Now

[SinkieExile]

There are 2 types of suspension commonly held in democracies that adopt Free Market principles - suspension with pay & suspension without pay. Do allow the insignificant nobody me explain in simple words to spare readers the legalistic jargon that many may not understand, or agree simply because it sounds high falutin ( pretentious) & none wants to be seemed ignorant.

A) For suspension of duties without pay, it only comes when there are IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCES of wrongdoing, such as DELIBERATE attempts-eg a Human causing hurt & harm, with VISUAL & Medical evidences of foul play,

B) For suspension of duties with pay, it lays within the sphere & principles of PROVING BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT, that most democracies & its institutional trusted Court/Judicial system of justice practices, so as not harm an innocent Human.

Iswaran is not a nobody like me. He has proven track records of good deeds & service to the Nation for years. It is commendable that CPIB had conducted a probe upon him, as Justice is supposed to be blind.

No Human is perfect. And thus uncovered wrong doings.

Singapore is a Rule of Law Nation, & he will be given a fair trial & legal representation, even in the unlikely event he cannot afford to do so on his own to clear his name & PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBTS to our Judiciary, that there was no wrong doing, or merely misunderstandings. So too will CPIB investigations prove to the Court or AG, BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBTS over Iswaran's wrong doings, & for our wise & learned Judiciary to expend Justice.

It may seem complex to many, but so too are Human Nature complexities. Thus, rather than to deprive a Human whom had not been CHARGED with offence/offences, there is no civilizational reason to deprive him of his earnings & more so to deprive the electorate whom had voted for him & the GRC system for his services proven over years in typical free & fair elections of Singapore.

ULTIMATELY, the aim of JUSTICE is NOT about incarcerating a Human. It is more - to understand the reasons why so that mistakes can be corrected, lessons learnt & passed on to generations, rehabilitation for the offender, & to create a better & more evolvedsociety to progress Civilization....

TLDR don't need bamboozle people with wall of texts.

Very simple rebuttal to you. If it were a private sector worker who tio investigation by police for any crime, particularly if it is financial in nature, you think their company management will simply put them on paid suspension or even half-pay suspension?

First thing they do is to ask the person to resign themselves unless they want to be summarily sacked under the excuse of "bringing the business into disrepute". Even if they keep the person on, they will make them use up their leave and then go on no pay leave.

Iswaran collecting 16k MP salary whilst having his ministerial pay docked to 8.5k is inexcusable.

 

[Willamshakespear]

TLDR don't need bamboozle people with wall of texts.

Very simple rebuttal to you. If it were a private sector worker who tio investigation by police for any crime, particularly if it is financial in nature, you think their company management will simply put them on paid suspension or even half-pay suspension?

First thing they do is to ask the person to resign themselves unless they want to be summarily sacked under the excuse of "bringing the business into disrepute". Even if they keep the person on, they will make them use up their leave and then go on no pay leave.

Iswaran collecting 16k MP salary whilst having his ministerial pay docked to 8.5k is inexcusable.

Cool down. You are on a different page. Iswaran is NOT a private sector worker.

 

[SinkieExile]

Cool down. You are on a different page. Iswaran is NOT a private sector worker.

Ya, because private sector got higher and better standards than public sector, and more brains when it comes to managing optics.

 

[myfoot123]

To ensure that all EMPLOYERS adhere to the same norms of continuing to pay their employees until they are proven guilty, MOM should adopt the PAP model as well. Sacking, premature terminations of suspected employee is not allowed. Our labour unions should look at PAPPY examples to fight for their own workers.

 

[rotiprata]

TLDR don't need bamboozle people with wall of texts....

Iswaran collecting 16k MP salary whilst having his ministerial pay docked to 8.5k is inexcusable.

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[Willamshakespear]

To ensure that all EMPLOYERS adhere to the same norms of continuing to pay their employees until they are proven guilty, MOM should adopt the PAP model as well. Sacking, premature terminations of suspected employee is not allowed. Our labour unions should look at PAPPY examples to fight for their own workers.

That's what MOM & the Tripartite Alliance had been fighting for decades. The war may not had been won, but battles did succeed, even over small disputes of presumed injustice, & investigated with fair or as fair as possible weighing both scales of employer & employee rationales, but on a wider national scale, saw our citizens salaries increased from a mere national average $300/mth in 1965 to $3000/mth in 2023. It took a LOT of effort from our elected legislators & especially courage, as investors are not fools or easily swayed, & wanted ROI for every dollar they spend. Thus upgrading of skills & much much more than ordinary citizens will realized, sadly, saw our pre-eminance for labor & skills in our World....

To return back to the Iswaran case, the insignificant nobody me humbly apologize for being vague, but for readers whom are more DISCERNING, will REALIZE what I am hinting at by my posts on this thread.

Iswaran is only the effect, that our CPIB had unwittingly uncovered. Without a CAUSE, there can be NO effect. We, the more discerning citizens are after a bigger 'game' ( the PREDATOR)....to eliminate such thru lessons & mistakes made, to progress & evolve the hard won independence by great Founding & Forefathers of Singapore, for higher evolution of us & innocent generations to come..