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Following koranic laws, Muslim rapist released from jail on condition that he marries his victim

JohnTan

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Can't you comprehend? We do not dispute the attempt to kill him by poison. We dispute he died from the poison.

We have sahih hadith narrating the incident and clearly the prophet was not affected by the poison as Allah always takes care of his messengers,

Read your two statements. You are contradicting yourself. You said that your 'prophet', he who died cock standing, was not affected by the poison. Bukari stated clearly that your 'prophet, he who died cock standing', was very badly affected by the poison.
 

Loofydralb

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Read your two statements. You are contradicting yourself. You said that your 'prophet', he who died cock standing, was not affected by the poison. Bukari stated clearly that your 'prophet, he who died cock standing', was very badly affected by the poison.
Comprehension problem for you again. When in a statement it states poison, the context is of course to kill. To not be successful at killing by poisoning means ultimately not being affected by the poison, not withstanding the side effects of that poison.
 

JohnTan

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Comprehension problem for you again. When in a statement it states poison, the context is of course to kill. To not be successful at killing by poisoning means ultimately not being affected by the poison, not withstanding the side effects of that poison.

Comprehension problem is on your end, not mine.

mahomet's companion, bishir, ate the same poisoned lamb. He too, didn't die immediately, but was left paralyzed from the incident. Bishir died one year later, and his family held Zaynab responsible for the poison and had her killed. You missed that part from your hadith scriptures?

After swallowing the poisoned mutton, Bishr ibn al-Bara remained paralysed for the rest of his life. When he died, nearly a year later, Zaynab was handed over to his relatives. They exacted blood-vengeance and killed her.[1]: 249 [11][6]: 334

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaynab_bint_Al-Harith

You're squirming and telling a lot of nonsense to get your prophet off the hook, that he was impervious to poison, even though your own hadith scriptures said it clearly that he was left in very great pain daily from the effects of the poison for the last 3-4 years of his life. Even after mahomet's death, his erect cock as stated by moslem sources indicate poisoning.
 

duluxe

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The mainstream Muslim understanding and the Islamic sources concerning Muhammad's death say he died of poisoning by a Jewish women. However the effects of the poison were only gradual. The hadith surrounding his death are consistent with the possibility he suffered a brain embolism leading to his post-mortem erection.

His mentality, the effect of all poisons is instantaneous. I know of people dying from slow poisoning. His mentality, someone who married an underage girl but claimed to able to hold back his penis till she reached puberty age is a better moral model than someone who doesn't do the same.

If he can hold back his cock for 3 years, why can't he hold back the marriage till she reached 12?
 

JohnTan

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If he can hold back his cock for 3 years, why can't he hold back the marriage till she reached 12?

From moslem sources, mahomet managed to hold his own cock even after death. mahomet, according to moslem sources, literally died cock standing!!
 

Loofydralb

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From moslem sources, mahomet managed to hold his own cock even after death. mahomet, according to moslem sources, literally died cock standing!!
Hehe you're clutching straws. Muslim scholars roundly reject hadiths that do not meet authentication standards. Unlike your bible that contain mistakes, fallacies, contradictions, humans that till today add and remove verses, and then say they are the words of god
Then speak to idols asking for help.
 

syed putra

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It doesn't really matter as pakistan army's money supply ended with the withdrawal of US troops from afghsnistan.
So army may need stage a coup to control the entire country or they may lose their wealth.
At the same time, baloch and pashtun tribal leaders ( 40 mil of them in paskistan) have declared independence from pakistan, a country controlled by punjabis and sindhs. Pashtuns controls afghanistan.
Another war may ignite between pashtun controlled afghanistzn and pakistan. Afghanistan has tons of ammo and equipment left by the US.
 

JohnTan

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Hehe you're clutching straws. Muslim scholars roundly reject hadiths that do not meet authentication standards.

moslem scholars reject bukari's hadiths?? You're really desperately trying to cover up your lies. You did say that your fake prophet, he who died cock standing, wasn't affected by poisoning even though the hadiths explicitly said he was.

Unlike your bible that contain mistakes, fallacies, contradictions,

If you feel that way, tell moslems to stop using the quran then. The quran was a copied and corrupted version of the Bible. Even moslems agree that their various qurans, barely 10% of the Bible in volume, is deficient in religious instruction. That's why moslems need the hadiths.

Then speak to idols asking for help.

Here's moslems speaking to an idol asking for help or blessing. Too much evidence of moslems engaging in idolatry.

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Loofydralb

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moslem scholars reject bukari's hadiths?? You're really desperately trying to cover up your lies. You did say that your fake prophet, he who died cock standing, wasn't affected by poisoning even though the hadiths explicitly said he was.
You will be surprised that there are hadiths which is weak and false. We have a system to authenticate hadith and it is an actual science where it is evidence based. You can read the checks done here, generalised:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intro...ded,the authenticity of individual narrations.

If you feel that way, tell moslems to stop using the quran then. The quran was a copied and corrupted version of the Bible. Even moslems agree that their various qurans, barely 10% of the Bible in volume, is deficient in religious instruction. That's why moslems need the hadiths.
Surprise surprise....if it was copied from the bible, christian scholars wondered why the mistakes and contradictions were missing from the Quran.
Anyone can pick up the Quran and compare it with the bible and you can spot the lie that it is 10% the volume. In fact Christians had to incorporate the Jewish texts that was in existence before Jesus into the bible to pad it up. Otherwise it would be as thick as a Mad magazine. Furthermore, the 4 books in the new testament are copies of each other in many parts, which will further reduce it to a kindergarten story book. After all its all fake fairy tales that you turned into paganism, polytheism a idol worship.

Here's moslems speaking to an idol asking for help or blessing. Too much evidence of moslems engaging in idolatry.

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They are kissing it. they jolly well know the stone cannot grant wishes. Wanna see a real idol pornographic pedophilic worship? Look where he is kissing.

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JohnTan

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You will be surprised that there are hadiths which is weak and false. We have a system to authenticate hadith and it is an actual science where it is evidence based. You can read the checks done here, generalised:

I'm not surprised that your scriptures has falsehoods in it. But I'm merely quoting to you your own scriptures.


Surprise surprise....if it was copied from the bible, christian scholars wondered why the mistakes and contradictions were missing from the Quran.

Didn't your own quran mistake Mary, mother of Jesus, as Mariam, sister of Moses?

Anyone can pick up the Quran and compare it with the bible and you can spot the lie that it is 10% the volume.

Again, you have no clue about your own islamic religion and the Bible that you try so desperately to criticize.

A simple Google search will show you that there's about 77500 - 83000 words in the quran, depending on version. The Bible has around 780,000 words. That makes whatever version of the quran you're using about 10% volume of the Bible.


In fact Christians had to incorporate the Jewish texts that was in existence before Jesus into the bible to pad it up.

The Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament. It had always been so. Only mohammedans are retarded enough to think that the Bible is made up of the Psalms and Gospels just because their fake prophet 'moe' said so.

The moslem quran also consists on their own version of the Old Testament, but it's just a rambling of here and there with a lot of info left out. It is also not obvious that the moslem quran has its own version of OT in it because the quran is not even arranged in chronological order!! It's compiled in a haphazard manner!


Without those parts of the OT that mahomet and his scribes corrupted, there's very little original stuff in there. So it turns out that the moslems also needed old Jewish texts and parts of the Gospels to pad up its already puny book.


They are kissing it. they jolly well know the stone cannot grant wishes. Wanna see a real idol pornographic pedophilic worship? Look where he is kissing.

You a mind reader? It's obvious that the moslems think the stone has magical powers. Look at them so desperate to lick, kiss and fondle the black stone. Fucking moslem idol worshippers and polytheists!

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Loofydralb

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I'm not surprised that your scriptures has falsehoods in it. But I'm merely quoting to you your own scriptures.




Didn't your own quran mistake Mary, mother of Jesus, as Mariam, sister of Moses?



Again, you have no clue about your own islamic religion and the Bible that you try so desperately to criticize.

A simple Google search will show you that there's about 77500 - 83000 words in the quran, depending on version. The Bible has around 780,000 words. That makes whatever version of the quran you're using about 10% volume of the Bible.




The Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament. It had always been so. Only mohammedans are retarded enough to think that the Bible is made up of the Psalms and Gospels just because their fake prophet 'moe' said so.

The moslem quran also consists on their own version of the Old Testament, but it's just a rambling of here and there with a lot of info left out. It is also not obvious that the moslem quran has its own version of OT in it because the quran is not even arranged in chronological order!! It's compiled in a haphazard manner!


Without those parts of the OT that mahomet and his scribes corrupted, there's very little original stuff in there. So it turns out that the moslems also needed old Jewish texts and parts of the Gospels to pad up its already puny book.




You a mind reader? It's obvious that the moslems think the stone has magical powers. Look at them so desperate to lick, kiss and fondle the black stone. Fucking moslem idol worshippers and polytheists!

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Until today you cannot point to a falsehood in the Quran. That is the only scripture from Allah that is preserved.

Now if you want me to show falsehood in the bible just let me know, but you won't dare.

Mary had a brother named Haroon. Not the Aaron that lived centuries before. Your feeble mind must think that there is only one Aaron throughout history.
 

duluxe

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Until today you cannot point to a falsehood in the Quran. That is the only scripture from Allah that is preserved.

Now if you want me to show falsehood in the bible just let me know, but you won't dare.

Mary had a brother named Haroon. Not the Aaron that lived centuries before. Your feeble mind must think that there is only one Aaron throughout history.

Is this verse not falsehood?

Quran 47:15
A Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord.
 

Loofydralb

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Is this verse not falsehood?

Quran 47:15
A Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord.
How is this a falsehood. It describe what is contained in jannah (heaven, for want of a better word).
It is not a parable.
Here is a better translation:
Quran 47:15
"The description of the Paradise promised to the righteous is that in it are rivers of fresh water, rivers of milk that never changes in taste, rivers of wine delicious to drink, and rivers of pure honey. There they will ˹also˺ have all kinds of fruit, and forgiveness from their Lord. ˹Can they be˺ like those who will stay in the Fire forever, left to drink boiling water that will tear apart their insides?"
 

duluxe

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How is this a falsehood. It describe what is contained in jannah (heaven, for want of a better word).
It is not a parable.
Here is a better translation:
Quran 47:15
"The description of the Paradise promised to the righteous is that in it are rivers of fresh water, rivers of milk that never changes in taste, rivers of wine delicious to drink, and rivers of pure honey. There they will ˹also˺ have all kinds of fruit, and forgiveness from their Lord. ˹Can they be˺ like those who will stay in the Fire forever, left to drink boiling water that will tear apart their insides?"

Rivers of milk, wine and honey, does all that sound like arabian fairytales?

You really believe you will get big breasts houris in jannah? What will your wife get?
 

Loofydralb

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Rivers of milk, wine and honey, does all that sound like arabian fairytales?

You really believe you will get big breasts houris in jannah? What will your wife get?
For one who doesn't believe God exist, every mention is a fairy tale.
If that is your belief, enjoy your life fully. But be warned, if you're wrong, it's pain and torture unimaginable for an eternity.
For women the same promise applies:
Allah says, “And therein is whatever the souls desire and [what] delights the eyes.”
[QURAN 43;71]
 

duluxe

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For one who doesn't believe God exist, every mention is a fairy tale.
If that is your belief, enjoy your life fully. But be warned, if you're wrong, it's pain and torture unimaginable for an eternity.
For women the same promise applies:
Allah says, “And therein is whatever the souls desire and [what] delights the eyes.”
[QURAN 43;71]

That can be interpreted as if you are made to believe in Allah by birth and by faith, every sign fairy tale will sound like true. Hope you can enjoy heavenly wine drinking in your next life.

I have a bad wish. I wish @syed putra will be your wife's male servant in jannah. Let your wife torture him hard.
 

Loofydralb

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That can be interpreted as if you are made to believe in Allah by birth and by faith, every sign fairy tale will sound like true. Hope you can enjoy heavenly wine drinking in your next life.

I have a bad wish. I wish @syed putra will be your wife's male servant in jannah. Let your wife torture him hard.
I just hope you ponder how all this creation came about...... from nothing?
 

duluxe

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I just hope you ponder how all this creation came about...... from nothing?
This is a very complex and different topic, and it deserves a different thread by itself.

We are now discussing the heaven depicts by the Quran. Is it real or fairy tale written with the desire of man in mind?

52:20: "beautiful houris of wide and beautiful eyes"
55:56: "untouched beforehand by man or jinn"

Does it sound the wish of a young soldier? Will he be motivated to die in war?
 

Loofydralb

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This is a very complex and different topic, and it deserves a different thread by itself.

We are now discussing the heaven depicts by the Quran. Is it real or fairy tale written with the desire of man in mind?

52:20: "beautiful houris of wide and beautiful eyes"
55:56: "untouched beforehand by man or jinn"

Does it sound the wish of a young soldier? Will he be motivated to die in war?
You do not need to be a soldier and die young in a war.
Just be a good Muslim and stay within the bounds Allah has decided for you and you will get the same heaven and more.
 
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