Evolutionism vs Creationism (aka Intelligent Design)

[Toronto]

Re: Head Of Dept For Micro Biology Changed His Stance

Christianity a western religion? Seems like you don't even know what you choose to attack. Ahahaha....

He is right, christianity is a angmo religion plagiarized from Judaism. And was first developed and promoted by emperor Constantine as a faith tool to assist his political ambitious to control and unit the declining roman emperor which was then divided among a few roman emperors. Constantine ambitious and agenda with christian was as declared -ONE EMPIRE, ONE GOD, ONE EMPEROR.

If christianity was really not an angmo religion, then Jesus should more like a middle-east man

Angmo looking Jesus

vs

What Jesus should look like

 

[Toronto]

Re: Head Of Dept For Micro Biology Changed His Stance

1. If the Bible is 100% factually accurate, then Galileo is wrong.
2. The Earth revolves around the Sun.
3. Therefore the Bible is not 100% factually accurate.

 

[Toronto]

Re: Head Of Dept For Micro Biology Changed His Stance

Jews views of Evolution

Today, many Jews accept the science of evolutionary theory and do not see it as incompatible with traditional Judaism, thus endorsing theistic evolution.

The Rabbinical Council of America (RCA) has "maintained that evolutionary theory, properly understood, is not incompatible with belief in a Divine Creator, nor with the first 2 chapters of Genesis." Prominent Orthodox rabbis who have affirmed that the world is older, and that life has evolved over time include Israel Lipschitz, Sholom Mordechai Schwadron (the MaHaRSHaM) (1835–1911), Zvi Hirsch Chajes (1805–1855) and Abraham Isaac Kook (1865–1935). These rabbis proposed their own versions of theistic evolution, in which the world is older, and that life does evolve over time in accord with natural law.

 

[Toronto]

Re: Head Of Dept For Micro Biology Changed His Stance

The pope and the Catholic Church accepted Evolution.

The majority of the mainline protestant Churches accepted Evolution.

Just a small minority of ultra fundamentalistic sects are still in denial of the scientifically proven evolution science. Jehevah witness is one such sect. Jehevah witness is still a banned sect in sinkie because is considered as fanatical and cultist. That means the remaining opponents of evolution are just an insignificant segments that are ultra extreme, fundamentalist and cultist.

 

[Conqueror]

Weird Atheism

Can fish go to court of law to prove God doesn't exist?

They can't EVEN tell us theists that atheism is a correct stance. Not ONLY that they can't prove it but there was a confusion of debates within themselves. Amazing. LOL

Atheists are quite divided now.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Weird Atheism

They can't EVEN tell us theists that atheism is a correct stance. Not ONLY that they can't prove it but there was a confusion of debates within themselves. Amazing. LOL

Atheists are quite divided now.

Fishbuff saw my counter challenge and ran away from the forum.
I hope he is honest enough to know his attacks on Christianity are really nonsensical. I also hope he will be more humble in his attitude. Only then can he be honest with himself.

 

[Toronto]

Re: Weird Atheism

fishbuff saw my reply first and then left..

 

[Toronto]

Re: Weird Atheism

A conflict arises when a religious community insists on the absolute truthfulness of all

statements recorded in the Bible. This means an intervention on the part of religion into the

sphere of science; this is where the struggle of the Church against the doctrines of Galileo and

Darwin belongs.

-Albert Einstein

 

[Toronto]

Re: Weird Atheism

Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination

embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly

speaking, a real factor in scientific research.

-Albert Einstein

 

[Toronto]

That makes him a DEIST. A deist is a person who believe in a god in this world AND NOT a personal God that wants him to follow instructions. Probably like Einstein and Flew. That mean Atheism is gone case liao.

How many times in this forum I exposed you for lying through your snake fangs?

I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.

- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2


As usual, run road quietly and later come back, pretending and acting as Mr Prophet and heavyweight...

 

[Toronto]

Albert Einstein: Skepticism, Freethought Proceed from Seeing Falsehood of Bible

Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression. Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social environment - an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later on, it has been tempered by a better insight into the causal connections.

- Albert Einstein

 

[Conqueror]

See, A Lie Again !

How many times in this forum I exposed you for lying through your snake fangs?

I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.

- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2


As usual, run road quietly and later come back, pretending and acting as Mr Prophet and heavyweight...

See, how these atheists put words in his mouth. What a shameless nick trying to pull the wool over the eyes of those who are not aware.


(The following quotes are taken from The Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press unless otherwise noted)

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."


(The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, Princeton University Press)

"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations."


Einstein was a deist. Toronto is a liar. Liar, liar, liar !

Try debunking this.

 

[Toronto]

Re: See, A Lie Again !

It is easily, simply an issue of timeline

"Conqueror is a Catholic" (in current time -false)

"Conqueror is a Catholic" (in the past -true)

 

[Toronto]

Re: See, A Lie Again !

"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist..." -dated 1930

"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. " -dated 1945

 

[Toronto]

Re: See, A Lie Again !

Conqueror,
I have never called you dumb in this forum, not ever from the nastiest comment by you.

Tonight I believe I won't be able to sleep happily if I don't say it out loud:

"You are unimaginably dumb!"

"Put Kinana and you together in the same bed, we see a pair of dumb and dumber!"

I have never called you dumb in this forum, not ever from the nastiest movement

 

[Conqueror]

Wanna Play Timeline Huh ?

It is easily, simply an issue of timeline

"Conqueror is a Catholic" (in current time -false)

"Conqueror is a Catholic" (in the past -true)

Wanna play timeline huh ? You better not regret this. That's why I said some posting before, "So, I guess he must be rather confused." Remember ?

 

[Toronto]

Re: Wanna Play Timeline Huh ?

Wanna play timeline huh ? You better not regret this. That's why I said some posting before, "So, I guess he must be rather confused." Remember ?

Still not malu enough?
Or, You are still so delusional to believe you are as smart as Prophet Daniel (from the Old Testament)?

I don't play timeline to twist fact just to win an argument in an anonymous forum, which is insignificant outside...



"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." - -Albert Einstein 1930


vs

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." - Albert Einstein 1953

 

[Toronto]

Wanna play timeline huh ? You better not regret this. That's why I said some posting before, "So, I guess he must be rather confused." Remember ?

Of course, I remember! From this post in the Countyard Cafe: http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread....volution-has-been-proven-scientifically/page6

I have chosen not to embarrass you unnecessarily or be too personal over there cos the audience there is wider with many tua kong ppl around

 

[PUNISHER]

Re: Weird Atheism

They can't EVEN tell us theists that atheism is a correct stance. Not ONLY that they can't prove it but there was a confusion of debates within themselves. Amazing. LOL

Atheists are quite divided now.

Atheists is not a religion why should it be organized like your cult ? we only don't believe there's a god and that's all in other thread you talk about atheism is a religion if its a religion then we should be organized , isn't it ? So which is which ? why you cults members love to twist and turn trying to proof your god is real ? by the way your cult I believed that is the one being divided with so many pastors and churches who are ready to con your money just like CHC .

 

[PUNISHER]

Re: See, A Lie Again !

Conqueror,
I have never called you dumb in this forum, not ever from the nastiest comment by you.

Tonight I believe I won't be able to sleep happily if I don't say it out loud:

"You are unimaginably dumb!"

"Put Kinana and you together in the same bed, we see a pair of dumb and dumber!"

I have never called you dumb in this forum, not ever from the nastiest movement

Hahahahaha .. You don't have to treat dumb people so nice in the first place . Being dumb is one thing being delusionally stubborn is another thing .