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</NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>3:42 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 5) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>25890.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Dec 16, 2009

Graduates dealt harder jobs blow

More degree-holders are without jobs and taking longer to find one

<!-- by line -->By Kor Kian Beng, Political Correspondent
DESPITE signs of a turnaround in the job market, university graduates are no better off.
In fact, more of them are without jobs and taking longer to land a job, according to revised official figures released yesterday.
Part of the reason is that they often tend to seek jobs that pay close to what they used to earn, said MP Josephine Teo, who is also assistant secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress.
However, economists interviewed foresee their lot improving in the new year, when growth is expected to hit 5.5 per cent, according to a recent poll of 20 private-sector economists by the Monetary Authority of Singapore.
Meanwhile, the labour market in the third quarter, following Singapore's exit from recession, shows 'encouraging signs of a turnaround', said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM).
The revised figures show more jobs were added, fewer people were laid off and there were more vacancies between June and September.
In all, employment grew by 14,000, offsetting the 13,900 jobs lost in the first half of this year. Still, the resident unemployment rate among Singaporeans and permanent residents hit 5 per cent, a five-year high.
Also, more residents, regardless of their education level, are taking beyond six months to get a job.
Known technically as the long-term unemployed, their numbers have doubled, from 9,600 in the third quarter last year to 18,400 in September this year.
Worst off are university graduates. Their numbers have swelled from 1,600 to 4,700, which works out to one in four of these unemployeds.
It is the same story in other areas.
Degree-holders form more than one-third of workers made redundant, either retrenched or released prematurely from their contracts. They form 36 per cent of the 2,470 workers made redundant, although they make up only 27 per cent of Singapore's workforce of two million.
It is a similar situation with the re-hiring of laid-off residents. Though this re-employment rate rose for workers at all educational levels, the rate for graduates remains the lowest, at 44.4 per cent.
It was the same case in the second quarter, when it was 39.3 per cent.
MP Josephine Teo said graduates tend to hold jobs, such as supervisors, which are the first to be chopped in a downturn.
She also said retrenched graduates typically take longer to find jobs because they have savings to fall back on and look for work that pays almost as much as their previous job.
Graduate Chris Lim seems to fit the mould. The 31-year-old has been jobless since she quit her marketing job in a bank in June last year. She had wanted a similar job in the service industry but the economic crisis has made it tough.
Said the business administration graduate: 'I've had a few job offers but I rejected them because they weren't suitable. I'm not super desperate because I have some savings.'
She is working part-time as a receptionist and is hopeful because headhunters are calling her more often now.
MOM, in its statement, said organisations and jobseekers should not be discouraged by the slight rise in the unemployment rate to 3.4 per cent, from 3.3 per cent in the first two quarters. It also pointed out the 5 per cent resident unemployment rate is below the record 6.2 per cent in 2003 during the Sars outbreak.
Economists say the peculiar situation of jobs growth coupled with high unemployment is a result of more residents entering the job market as the economy improves.
Singapore, which came out of recession at the end of June, grew by 14.2 per cent in the third quarter,
Also, the rise in the unemployment rate could be due to a mismatch between skills and jobs.
Economist Tan Khee Giap expects the resident jobless rate to fall by next June.
But there is a need to shorten the time the jobless take to find work, he added.
Ms Heather Chua of hiring firm Kelly Services noted that 50 per cent of residents retrenched in the second quarter found work in the third quarter.
'This is a strong indication more companies are positioning themselves to prepare for the nascent recovery,' she said.
However, MOM's Minister of State Lee Yi Shyan, noted that the unemployment rate is likely to stay up for some time as employers remain cautious about the pace and sustainability of recovery.
He said: 'The Government remains focused on job creation and training, while those who are unemployed are encouraged to retrain and re-skill so that they can find a job as quickly as possible.'

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</NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>3:47 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>CPL (kojakbt22) <NOBR> </NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 7) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>25890.2 in reply to 25890.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Limited opportunities is the cause. Grads had enjoyed the job market boom before. Just bear with it.
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AngKimKim
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Jobs in SG are only available to Cheap foreign labor. You have to accept a salary low enough to make sure you cannot afford a HDB flat that's ever increasing in price and live with your family in a rented room just like what Cheap labor from philippines, india and china does. The worst thing you can be in SG is Singaporean.
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DaveMMSG
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any foreign talent who have a job offer of a monthly salary of more than $2,500 (without CPF) will get an employment pass.
This is equivalent to $2,183 for S'poreans
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pappy
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I thought I stated this a long time ago. Often, Singapore has proudly stated that we mignt not be rich in natural resources but we have an abundance of human resource. Well, human resource is not like natural resources.
During bad times, natural resources can remain unmined, but for human resource, social problems arise if people remain 'unmined' or jobless for too long.
Also, we have set up a lot of many 'manufacturers' of graduates: NUS, NTU, SMU, SIM. And, I hear that we are going to set up another uni again.
Local grads from these 'manufacturers', together with those returning who get their degrees from abroad and through correspondence, have already been flooding Singapore. With a glut of uni grads, we should expect jobless graduates here. The recession merely worsens the situation.
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GhostRider666
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Employers crying father and crying mother for government to relax foreign workers quota. So ask these unemployed grads to chiam see tong these jobs first lor.
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ForgiveForget
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i thought ST announce there's more job vacancies in the news recently..
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kewldude
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I am not surprised at all. Its due to a few reasons.
First reason is that the unis are producing too many 'general degree' undergraduatea. Just think about what would a grad with such a 'general' degrees such as BBA, BA, even Bsc, is equipped with in terms of working skills that a smart poly boy or even a plain 'O' level guy with some working experiencen does not have or cannot demonstrate to the boss.
Secondly, a lot of grads trained with specific skills, particularly the Engineering grads, they don't want to take up real deal engineering jobs. They all want to do sales and marketing and be bank officers. So where got so many such jobs for them, considering that grads of other disciplines also want such comfy jobs.
I think as a first step, the unis should reduce their Bizad and Arts faculties and reduce the no of such undergrads produce each year. Its a waste of money producing so many such 'general degree' graduates.
I think let the private universities offer such courses. If a young person wants to be suckered into spending good money to get a 'general' degree and end up finding it tough to get a job, at least it is his own problem and public money has not been wasted.
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i just heard from the news yesterday saying that the unemployment rates in Singapore are still raising.. so what are the 'encouraging signs of a turnaround'? i really don't understand.. thought the sign should show the other way round...
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This propaganda by the government that the economic situation in Singapore is turning around is a blatant lie.
It only serves it's own purpose for the upcoming election and also to possibly increase the Goods and Services tax in a couple of years.
I see shoppers abound in Orchard Road yet few are carrying shopping bags.
Everyone's just browsing.
Meanwhile, the retailers are paying through their noses with exorbitant rentals.
And what's with this over abundance of retail space.
You have ION, 313, Central, Mandarin Hotel and the space previously occupied by Crown Prince Hotel.
Do you know how much retail space is in Orchard Road alone?
I haven't even begun to talk about the retail space at the two IRs.
Who is coming to shop in Singapore?
Certainly not the locals.

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This loser with the whole lot of useless baboons were sent to Suzhou and all returned after losing 90 million peanuts.

Of the whole lot, she was picked for a parachute in Bishan, enter politics w/o much fight and took to the podium talking down to peasants and giving them lectures about their inferiority, hunger and bobo attitude.

She applauded Arse Loong's plan to tax the poor by suggesting there is never a good time to raise taxes, this proved she is certainly a lackey. The Teos are shamed by such a lackey, as the chinks say,'sinner of a thousand generation' ha ha!
 
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