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EU Tells PAP: Fuck you over the death penalty! Fuck you JohnTan!

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https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters... case of Mr Prabu N Pathmanathan in Singapore

The European Union (EU) calls on the Singapore authorities to halt the execution of Mr Prabu N Pathmanathan, to commute his sentence to a non-capital sentence and to adopt a moratorium on all executions.

Today, more than two thirds of the countries of the world have become abolitionist in law or practice which confirms a global trend towards abolition of the death penalty. The EU holds a principled position against the death penalty and is opposed to the use of capital punishment under any circumstances. No compelling evidence exists to show that the death penalty serves as a deterrent to crime more efficient than imprisonment. Furthermore, any errors - inevitable in any legal system - are irreversible. The EU will continue supporting the universal trend towards the eradication of the death penalty.

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Kirsten Fatos bitch has a new friend. The shitty EU.
 
Fuck EU cheebyes!

Don't meddle in other countries business. We must know that EU is made up of a bunch of clowns who were not elected in an election. It's like asking a coffeeshop uncle to tell u how to raise your kids!
 
Fuck EU cheebyes!

Don't meddle in other countries business. We must know that EU is made up of a bunch of clowns who were not elected in an election. It's like asking a coffeeshop uncle to tell u how to raise your kids!

Some coffee shop uncles know how to scold kids.
 
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Other cuntries abolish death penalty is their business. SG (not PAP) must stick to its guns and hang any foreigner caught trafficking in drugs. This is called RULE OF LAW. Mudlaysia only know how to parrot the latest buzz words like synergy, transformation, vision 2020, multimedia super corridor, mega this and that, and now “rule of law”, without looking deeper into the true meaning of these slogans. That’s why they are still and will remain a 3rd world cuntry.

Many Mudlanders smuggle contraband cigarettes into SG while riding their motorbikes to SG for work. Then they sell these contraband cigarettes to their desperate Sinkie colleagues at just a little below Sinkie prices. This undermines SG’s anti-smoking campaigns, increases the burden on SG’s hospitals and causes loss in cigarette tax revenue.

After successfully boosting their 3x SGD salary by smuggling contraband cigarettes, they like this ungrateful Mudlaysian Ah Neh graduate to smuggling drugs like heroin.

Monkeys like these must be hanged promptly as an example to the rest. This is called deterrent effect. To scare off those motorbikers thinking of supplementing their 3x SGD income by being ungrateful to their host country and engaging in illegal activities.

Singaporeans do not support wasting taxpayers’ money on 15 years or whatever for free accommodation and food for bastards like this. And in SG only Singaporeans can vote, foreigners can take their new found or entrenched liberal attitudes about death penalty and fuck off.
 
Other cuntries abolish death penalty is their business. SG (not PAP) must stick to its guns and hang any foreigner caught trafficking in drugs. This is called RULE OF LAW. Mudlaysia only know how to parrot the latest buzz words like synergy, transformation, vision 2020, multimedia super corridor, mega this and that, and now “rule of law”, without looking deeper into the true meaning of these slogans. That’s why they are still and will remain a 3rd world cuntry.

Many Mudlanders smuggle contraband cigarettes into SG while riding their motorbikes to SG for work. Then they sell these contraband cigarettes to their desperate Sinkie colleagues at just a little below Sinkie prices. This undermines SG’s anti-smoking campaigns, increases the burden on SG’s hospitals and causes loss in cigarette tax revenue.

After successfully boosting their 3x SGD salary by smuggling contraband cigarettes, they like this ungrateful Mudlaysian Ah Neh graduate to smuggling drugs like heroin.

Monkeys like these must be hanged promptly as an example to the rest. This is called deterrent effect. To scare off those motorbikers thinking of supplementing their 3x SGD income by being ungrateful to their host country and engaging in illegal activities.

Singaporeans do not support wasting taxpayers’ money on 15 years or whatever for free accommodation and food for bastards like this. And in SG only Singaporeans can vote, foreigners can take their new found or entrenched liberal attitudes about death penalty and fuck off.
If sinkies really want to save tax payers money, ban alcohol too. Don't stop at just cigarettes and drugs.
 
Malaysian officials and activists on Friday criticised neighbouring Singapore’s decision to hang a Malaysian drug trafficker despite high-level intervention from Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s government for a stay of execution.

Prabu Pathmanathan, 31, was the first Malaysian to be hanged in Singapore since Mahathir’s government announced in September that it would soon move to abolish the death penalty. Malaysia has installed a moratorium on the punishment until then.

The administration, fresh off its election victory in May, has made human rights a key part of its policy agenda.

Capital punishment for serious crimes including murder and drug trafficking has been carried out in Singapore and Malaysia since the days of British colonial rule.

In some severe cases, execution had been mandatory – meaning judges had no alternative sentence if the accused was found guilty.

But after a review in 2012, the city state granted judges more discretion.

Since the September announcement that Malaysia would soon move towards total abolition, activists in the country have said they would go all out to save the lives of Malaysians facing execution abroad.

The Malaysian foreign ministry said in a statement on Friday afternoon that Prabu’s execution was carried out at 6.23am on Friday morning “in the presence of family members”.

“On humanitarian grounds, the government of Malaysia had made an appeal for leniency to the government of Singapore,” the statement said. “Nevertheless, the government of Malaysia wishes to emphasise that it respects the rule of law and due process of the Republic of Singapore.”

Activist and lawyer N. Surendran, who represented Prabu’s family in their eleventh-hour attempt to obtain clemency for the 31-year-old, told the South China Morning Post plans were underway for the cremation of his remains.


The Post has requested a comment from Singapore’s home affairs ministry.

Prabu in 2014 was convicted of smuggling 227.82g of diamorphine – or heroin – into Singapore.

“The execution was an unlawful, and brutal act, carried out in breach of due process and in defiance of the appeals made by neighbouring Malaysia,” said Surendran, who told the Post that several Malaysian cabinet members had spoken directly with Singaporean leaders in a failed bid to halt the execution.

A vigil before an execution in Singapore. Photo: AFP
A vigil before an execution in Singapore. Photo: AFP
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MALAYSIAN CALLS FALL ON DEAF EARS AS SINGAPORE EXECUTES DRUG TRAFFICKER PRABU PATHMANATHAN

BY TASHNY SUKUMARAN / BHAVAN JAIPRAGAS
26 OCT 2018
The hanging of Prabu Pathmanathan comes despite high-level intervention from Malaysia. Mahathir Mohamad’s government has made human rights key to its agenda and vowed to abolish the death penalty

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Prabu Pathmanathan, who has been executed by Singapore. Photo: Twitter
Prabu Pathmanathan, who has been executed by Singapore. Photo: Twitter
Malaysian officials and activists on Friday criticised neighbouring Singapore’s decision to hang a Malaysian drug trafficker despite high-level intervention from Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s government for a stay of execution.

Prabu Pathmanathan, 31, was the first Malaysian to be hanged in Singapore since Mahathir’s government announced in September that it would soon move to abolish the death penalty. Malaysia has installed a moratorium on the punishment until then.

The administration, fresh off its election victory in May, has made human rights a key part of its policy agenda.


Capital punishment for serious crimes including murder and drug trafficking has been carried out in Singapore and Malaysia since the days of British colonial rule.

In some severe cases, execution had been mandatory – meaning judges had no alternative sentence if the accused was found guilty.

Educated Singaporeans more likely to support death penalty

But after a review in 2012, the city state granted judges more discretion.

Since the September announcement that Malaysia would soon move towards total abolition, activists in the country have said they would go all out to save the lives of Malaysians facing execution abroad.

The Malaysian foreign ministry said in a statement on Friday afternoon that Prabu’s execution was carried out at 6.23am on Friday morning “in the presence of family members”.

“On humanitarian grounds, the government of Malaysia had made an appeal for leniency to the government of Singapore,” the statement said. “Nevertheless, the government of Malaysia wishes to emphasise that it respects the rule of law and due process of the Republic of Singapore.”

Activist and lawyer N. Surendran, who represented Prabu’s family in their eleventh-hour attempt to obtain clemency for the 31-year-old, told the South China Morning Post plans were underway for the cremation of his remains.


The Post has requested a comment from Singapore’s home affairs ministry.

Prabu in 2014 was convicted of smuggling 227.82g of diamorphine – or heroin – into Singapore.

“The execution was an unlawful, and brutal act, carried out in breach of due process and in defiance of the appeals made by neighbouring Malaysia,” said Surendran, who told the Post that several Malaysian cabinet members had spoken directly with Singaporean leaders in a failed bid to halt the execution.

A vigil for Prabu. Photo: Kirsten Han
A vigil for Prabu. Photo: Kirsten Han
Malaysian de facto law minister Liew Vui Keong earlier told local media he had written to the Singapore government, urging it to commute Prabu’s death sentence.

When asked by local media what would happen if the execution was carried out, he responded: “It will be a sad day, I hope they don’t do it.”

Surendran said on Thursday evening the Singapore President’s Office had delivered a letter to Prabu’s family in response to their petition, stating that “the clemency process has concluded” and it was “unable to accede to [their] request”.

The lawyer criticised this move – saying the decision to “reject the family’s clemency petition without even considering it” was unlawful.

Anti-death penalty activists said there had been seven executions in October – four this week including Prabu.

The Singapore Prison Service does not routinely release information about executions apart from figures released in its annual report.

The 2017 annual report showed eight people were executed in 2017, up from four in 2016.

“It seems that executions are increasing in Singapore. The sort of discussion among the Malaysian government that’s taking place now is not taking place here,” said Kirsten Han, a prominent Singaporean anti-death penalty activist and journalist.


Said Han: “Singaporean society is told the death penalty keeps people safe, that it’s a deterrent. This is the message that travels down from leaders, but alternative deeper opinions are not aired.

“There have been studies that show when you explore the nuances, support for the death penalty drops: the more you know about the death penalty, the more likely you are to think twice.”

The Singapore government routinely pushes back against the country’s tiny but vocal anti-death penalty lobby.

Last year, law and home affairs minister K. Shanmugam slammed activists for “romanticising individuals involved in the drug trade”.

The minister said capital punishment would remain part of Singapore’s comprehensive anti-drug framework that includes rehabilitating abusers.

Speaking at the Asia-Pacific Forum Against Drugs, Shanmugam said: “I have said repeatedly, [we] do not take any joy or comfort in having the death penalty, and nobody hopes or wants to have it imposed.

“We do it reluctantly, on the basis that it is for the greater good of society … it saves more lives. That is the rationale on which we have it.”

Globally, 106 countries have abolished the death penalty and 142 in total are abolitionist in law or practice.

It is meted out for drug-related crimes in 15 countries, but according to rights group Amnesty International only four countries recorded drug offence executions in 2017 – Singapore, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and China.

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/amp...-calls-fall-deaf-ears-singapore-executes-drug
 
Educated Sinkies more likely to support death penalty

More than two-thirds of Singaporeans support the death penalty, according to a survey that found those with university-level education were more likely to be in favour.

Seventy per cent of the 1,500 people aged between 18 and 74 who were surveyed supported the death penalty, with 8 per cent of those being “strongly in favour” of judicial executions.

Of the 30 per cent against, three per cent were strongly opposed.

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The data suggested people of age 66 or above were more likely to support the death penalty. Those who had degree qualifications were 1.7 times more likely to support it compared to those with primary or lower education.

Of religious groups, “Chinese religionists are 2.3 times more likely to support the death penalty than Protestants, while Catholics are two times less inclined to do so than Protestants,” the researchers said.

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https://m.scmp.com/week-asia/societ...ingaporeans-more-likely-support-death-penalty
 
If sinkies really want to save tax payers money, ban alcohol too. Don't stop at just cigarettes and drugs.

It is not practical to ban all sin and enforcing any such attempt will be costly ie cannot save taxpayers’ money, and ineffective. The US tried to ban alcohol - it was called the Prohibition. It was not successful and many criminals like Al Capote made millions selling contraband alcohol.

Alcohol only damages the livers of those who drink too much. There is no such thing as second hand alcohol but second hand smoke is more damaging than first hand smoke and the addictive nature of drugs will lead to other crimes committed by addicts to feed their habit.

We can save a lot of taxpayers’ money by prohibiting doctors, private or public, from treating any smokers for lung cancer and other smoking related diseases. Nobody will be allowed to buy any cigarettes from stores unless they are registered with the Ministry of Health as a smoker. Smokers will be required to carry this registration card on their persons at all times. Doctors who treat smokers for smoking linked diseases will be barred from practice for life in addition to hefty fines and jail time.

Since they are known for throwing cig buts all over the place, all registered smokers will be required to go for mandatory work order (ie collect rubbish) every week. Save even more taxpayers’ money as number of paid rubbish collectors will be reduced!
 
We can save a lot of taxpayers’ money by prohibiting doctors, private or public, from treating any smokers for lung cancer and other smoking related diseases. Nobody will be allowed to buy any cigarettes from stores unless they are registered with the Ministry of Health as a smoker. Smokers will be required to carry this registration card on their persons at all times. Doctors who treat smokers for smoking linked diseases will be barred from practice for life in addition to hefty fines and jail time.

Since they are known for throwing cig buts all over the place, all registered smokers will be required to go for mandatory work order (ie collect rubbish) every week. Save even more taxpayers’ money as number of paid rubbish collectors will be reduced!
Save tax payer money? The smoker does not pay tax? He visit doc without paying?
Imho, a smoker is paying more tax than a non smoker. He is just putting his tobacco tax and income tax with govt for future usage.:biggrin:
There are good and bad apples. Even non smokers also throw rubbish randomly.
Does not apply only smokers who throw cig butts.
The important thing is whatever decision made , you bear the consequence.
No one forcing anyone to smoke.
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The EU can't even get it's own house together. N who are they to tell others what to do when their own backyard is shit? At least the yanks got more common sense

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10 Reasons The Death Penalty Should Be Legal
By Dave Anderson - February 22, 2016


10 Reasons The Death Penalty Should Be Legal
10 Reasons The Death Penalty Should Be Legal
10 Reasons The Death Penalty Should Be Legal

Should the death penalty be legal? To listen to some people in favor of the abolition of the death penalty or organizations such as Amnesty International the United States, by executing criminals, stands alongside such countries as China and Saudi Arabia in its barbarity.

Many countries in the world, including most of Europe have rescinded their death penalties. The decision to do so is often lauded as the choice of a rational, modern, mature and humane society There was a time, in living memory, when there was a moratorium on executions in the United States (see below) but the death penalty was reinstated in 36 states.

Recent problems with botched executions including a 2014 execution by lethal injection that took 1 hour and 40 minutes to take effect, the prisoner in pain all the while, have reopened the debate as to whether the United States should continue to execute prisoners for certain crimes.

We believe that the death penalty should continue to be legal, and that it plays an important role in our fight against crime and punishment of the perpetrators of those crimes. Here are our top 10 reasons why the death penalty should remain legal.

The Constitution Allows For The Application Of The Death Penalty

The Death Penalty is Constitutional
The Death Penalty is Constitutional
The Constitution of the United States, more specifically through the application of the Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments permit the use of the death penalty in appropriate cases.

There were, most notably in the 1960s, several attempts made to declare the use of the death penalty unconstitutional based on the fact that it was ‘cruel and unusual’ and therefore contrary to the Eighth Amendment. The 1958 Supreme Court case of Trop V Dulles while not a death penalty case interpreted the Eighth Amendment as containing an ‘evolving standard of decency that marked the progress of a maturing society’. This statement was used as a basis for the abolitionist campaign. 10 years later in 1968 in US v Jackson the Supreme Court started to consider the practical application of the death penalty ruling that the death penalty could be imposed even when not recommended by a Jury. The same year the Court ruled that a juror’s reservations to the death penalty were not enough to bar them from serving in and of themselves unless they were so strong as to prevent the juror from making an impartial decision.

By 1972 Eighth Amendment challenges resulted in State Death Penalty Statutes being suspended for unconstitutionality as they could, as drafted, result in arbitrary sentencing. The states immediately started to fight back, redrafting their statutes to address the problems highlighted by the Supreme Court. The death penalty was effectively reinstated by 1977 when the first execution in years took place in Utah.

The death penalty has therefore been challenged, found wanting, redrafted and found to be legal and constitutional. There is no reason, therefore, for the death penalty to be suspended.

The Death Penalty Acts As A Deterrent

Because the Death Penalty Deters Crime and it should be Legal in every state
Because the Death Penalty Deters Crime and it should be Legal in every state
The death penalty is no longer fashionable. Ruled illegal in much of Europe and most of the developed world America is unusual amongst equivalent nations in its adherence to the practice. Liberal abolitionists have argued that the flaws in the legal system including the potential for the execution of innocents and the societal disparities in sentencing (see below) are of sufficient concern as to make the practice unethical.

The once deeply held public and professional opinion that the death penalty acts as a deterrent to crime is widely dismissed but there is more truth in it than the liberals and abolitionists want to acknowledge. Studies undertaken over a number of years show, unequivocally that between 3 and 18 lives could be saved by each execution of a guilty killer. Results from the University of Colorado in Denver show that an execution saves 5 lives while the commuting of a death sentence results in about five more. The reasoning is simple, if the costs of doing something become too high, people will change their behavior to avoid those costs. If the cost reduces people will indulge in that behavior once more.

Yet more research has shown that when the state of Illinois suspended executions in 2000 there were an extra 150 homicides over the following 4 years. More research needs to be undertaken to ensure the quality and accuracy of the methodology and data but the results seem incontrovertible – the death penalty acts as a deterrent and as a result saves lives.

The Death Penalty Allows The State To Exact Appropriate Retribution, Criminals Must Face The Consequences Of Their Actions

Because the Death Penalty Allows an Avenue for Retribution it should be legal.
Because the Death Penalty Allows an Avenue for Retribution it should be legal.
We are taught (or at least we should be) from our earliest years that actions have consequences. Touching a hot stove burns your hand, annoying your parent causes them to punish you etc. Every parent knows that failing to link actions to consequences leads to children who do what they want when they want. The same holds true for adults. We pay our taxes because we don’t want to face the consequences of not doing so. Consequences bring order to our society.

The same holds true for violent and dangerous crimes, where someone acts in such a way as to take the life of another they have to be punished, they have to expect retribution, they have to pay the price of their actions and it should be in equal measure.

Abolitionists often confuse retribution (the payment of debt to society) with revenge which is a hot blooded reaction to the loss by those who have suffered it. We have a police and subsequently legal process precisely to prevent hot blooded revenge from taking over and to ensure a rational, logical and fair response to a crime. This is why the death penalty is a reasonable and proportionate response to a killing but not to a rape, no matter how violent, where the victim does not lose their life.

If there is no retribution (or no reasonable level of retribution) exacted then there is no reasonable deterrent (see above) to prevent homicide.

Life Sentences For Criminals Who Should Expect The Death Penalty Are An Unfair Financial Burden On The State

Criminal life sentences put an unfair burden on State budgets and tax payers.
Criminal life sentences put an unfair burden on State budgets and tax payers.
Those who are opposed to the death penalty often like to claim that it is extremely expensive citing figures of up to $2 million per individual in death row. The equivalent costs of detaining a prisoner for life without parole come in, they claim, at $1 million per individual.

A quick analysis of the cost of detention for life without parole show that detention will cost approximately $34,000 per year for an average of 50 years. The cost of trial and appeals will come in at about $75,000. Assuming a cost increase of a conservative 2% per annum the costs come in at over $3 million for 50 years detention, rising to $5.5 million if a 4% cost increase is assumed.

While the costs of death row are higher coming in at almost double the cost of life incarceration or about $60,000 these costs are not typically borne for anywhere near as long, an average of just 6 years. Trials and appeals will also be more costly coming in at approximately $1.5 million giving a total of $1.88 million assuming 2% per annum cost increases and $1.91 million with a 4% costs increase. This analysis shows that the overall costs of the death penalty where called for are much lower than a lengthy incarceration without parole and that is even before adjustment to life costs has been made to cover the costs of treating the diseases and suffering of old age which typically are complex and expensive to treat.

The Death Penalty Can Promote Happiness and Wellbeing Amongst Non-Offenders

Yeah! Death penalty.
Yeah! Death penalty.
This may seem like a rather illogical argument but it is one that is often deployed by pro death penalty campaigners in Japan.

Crime is not rampant in Japan which experiences on average 1,200 or fewer murders a year, approximately equivalent to the number of homicides in France which has half the Japanese population. Japanese executions are carried out by hanging and 76 out of 102 inmates on death row were executed between 1993 and 2008.

Because the death penalty is used relatively sparingly in Japan (although with increasing frequency since the turn of the century) there was thought at one point that the penalty would be abolished and under one Minister of Justice there was a de facto moratorium on the death penalty as he refused to authorize executions.

Nevertheless the death penalty remains for the reason that it has an important psychological impact on Japanese society. Like Americans the Japanese work hard, they get relatively few days off and are expected to put their employer’s needs before their own. The death penalty shows the hard working ordinary Japanese that bad things happen to bad people. The necessary concomitant of this is the belief that good things happen to good people. Therefore, psychologists in Japan believe, when people see the bad punished they think they will receive rewards for being good.

Of course Japanese people are psychologically very different from Americans but the argument is interesting and could be of application in the US. After all who does not believe that people should get what is coming to them!

Race Should Not Be, And Is Not An Issue In The Application Of The Death Penalty

The Death Penalty is imposed without regard to race.
The Death Penalty is imposed without regard to race.
Read any argument for the abolition of the death penalty and you will almost certainly be told that the death penalty is an unfair burden on racial minority Americans, more specifically black Americans with the death penalty being, in effect, a reflection of a middle class ‘desire’ to strike at racial minorities. If this were true it would be a good reason to suspend the death penalty to ensure that its application was even and fair but the claims are simply so much rubbish. The death penalty in America is color blind!

Abolitionists claim that white lives are accorded more value than black because the vast majority (82%) of all death penalty murder victims are white and only 13% black. Black deaths, so the argument goes, are simply not deserving of the death penalty. However this imbalance may simply be due to the fact that more white Americans are victims of killings the circumstances of which attract the death penalty.

When it comes to actual executions the statistics are reversed. 56% of all those executed for death penalty crimes are white and only 38% black, this is despite the fact that black criminals committed 47% of all murders with whites responsible for only 38%. The conclusions are startling, white Americans who kill other whites are more likely to end up on death row than black Americans who kill whites and white killers of black victims are more likely to receive the death penalty than black killers of white victims and white killers are executed 15 months faster than black killers on death row.

Despite these statistics no one claims the system is biased against white killers. They don’t make the claim because the system is not inherently racist. Those who murder receive the death penalty if, and only if, they meet all the necessary criteria for it to be handed down not simply because of the color of their skin.

The Death Penalty Is Not Inherently Unfair On The Poor

The laws offices of We Just Passed the Bar are available to represent you!
The laws offices of We Just Passed the Bar are available to represent you!
Much like the arguments pertaining to race (see above) those in favor of abolishing the death penalty claim that it is unfairly burdensome on the poorer members of society. Those unable to afford a decent lawyer, so the claim goes, will have to make do with a public defender. These public lawyers are, in the eyes of abolitionists, incompetent, unprepared and woefully underpaid. They are often incapable of mounting an effective defense and are often nothing more than a figurehead, a sop to the American ideal of free legal representation that no longer exists in reality.

This paints a pretty picture, everyone loves an underdog and the idea that people are being denied due process and adequate representation seems inherently un-American. The pretty picture is, however, nothing more than a myth built on shaky foundations. It may have been true in the past but the reality today is very different. Over recent decades many states have overhauled their previously inadequate public defender systems and provide extensive funding for the expert witnesses required to mount an effective defense. Many law firms, looking for good publicity, will take on a capital case on a pro-bono basis and may even offer partnership to lawyers who work in capital defense cases.

Advances In Process And Science Help To Eliminate The Possibility Of Mistakes In Convictions

Science will save you from a wrongful conviction. Hopefully.
Science will save you from a wrongful conviction. Hopefully.
One of the reasons people claim that the death penalty should be abolished is the danger of an erroneous conviction. The death penalty is final, there is no coming back from it whereas a mistaken conviction leading to a life sentence can result in the individual being released and granted compensation.

The key thing to bear in mind is that while mistakes can occur in any judicial system (and they do) the likelihood of mistakes in any one case can be protected against. The standard of proof required in death penalty cases is very high and death penalty juries take their responsibilities very seriously indeed. Any person convicted of a death penalty crime has the automatic right to a funded appeal to a higher court. The checks and balances designed into the system ensure that the chances of a mistake are very low indeed. Indeed prisoners are 6 times more likely to be released from death row on appeal than walk the route to the execution chamber.

Reviews have shown that 23 potentially innocent people were executed in the US since 1900. Commentary on the review shows that there is no proof as to the innocence of those 23 individuals. What the study has shown is not that mistaken executions are common but that they are almost vanishingly rare. No person subsequently proved to be innocent has been executed since the reinstatement of the death penalty in 1977.

Add to this the advances in forensic science and technology. DNA evidence can now be obtained from almost vanishingly small samples allowing for the innocent to be exonerated relatively easily. There is a danger that juries become conditioned by television programs and media reporting to believe that DNA holds all the answers. As a result it is vital that judges give the juries adequate directions to enable them to interpret the evidence before them. It is also why, in spite of what seems to be an almost god like ability to determine whether or not someone was present in the room or handled a weapon, we still require juries to analyze whether or not the evidence is believable. This combination of cutting edge technology and human analysis of credibility is one of the true strengths of the legal system and a defense against wrongful conviction.

The Death Penalty Need Not Be A Cruel And Painful End

The death penalty could be painless, assuming these guys are accurate.
The death penalty could be painless, assuming these guys are accurate.
36 States in the USA conduct their executions through the use of lethal injection. To many lay people this might seem a calm and peaceful, painless end. After all when a much loved pet is in pain we take them to the vet for an injection and hold them as they breathe their last, we know they feel no pain, only a gentle slide into oblivion.

The protocol for human lethal injection is slightly different. 30 of the 36 states use a combination of an anesthetic, a paralytic and a drug to stop the heart. In recent years supplies of the barbiturate of choice have run low leading to the need to source the drug elsewhere. Some experts claim that execution by lethal injection causes needless pain and suffering particularly since the anesthetic barbiturate which is meant to render the convict unconscious and unable to feel the effects of the second two drugs does not always act as intended as doses are not strictly calculated. If a sufficiently powerful dose is not administered they will feel excruciating pain.

Nevertheless the Supreme Court ruled in the 2008 decision of Baze v Rees that the triple cocktail lethal injection method did not constitute cruel and unreasonable punishment.

It is not just lethal injections that can go wrong, several executions by electric chair have also been botched requiring second jolts. Analysis shows that at least 47 executions have been botched since 1977, in some cases the convict took nearly 2 hours to die. Executions do not have to be that way. Utah allows execution by firing squad, it might seem backwards but is possibly more humane than lethal injection. The UK no longer executes prisoners but when it did the executions were done by hanging. This has been abandoned as a method of execution in most US states (it remains as a potential secondary method in New Hampshire, Delaware and Washington in the event a lethal injection cannot be carried out). Concerns with hanging include a potential lengthy suffocation process if a short drop is used or beheading if a violent long drop is used. The UK developed a system which included the use of a device to dislocate the neck which together with a drop length calculated against the bodyweight of the criminal would result in an almost instantaneous and almost painless death.

Given the concerns that exist with the preferred American execution methods of lethal injection and electrocution it would seem better to adopt (or allow prisoners to request) a firing squad or British style measured drop hanging. This would remove all potential to claim that the punishment was cruel or unusual.

The Death Penalty Is The Only Rational And Moral Response To Some Crimes

The Death Penalty is rational and moral punishment
The Death Penalty is rational and moral punishment
We are told, by those in favor of abolition of the death penalty, that human life is sacred, that man should not play God. The truth is, however, that those people who have committed the type of crimes for which the death penalty is applicable have put themselves beyond the pale of humanity. They have chosen to act in a manner that is directly at odds with the morals of society at large and as such they must expect to be sanctioned. Should Ted Bundy have been allowed to live? Should John Wayne Gacy?

Does the imposition of the death penalty result in man putting themselves in God’s shoes? Many Christian theologians think not. St Augustine in Chapter 21 of his book The City of God argues that the executioner in a legally sanctioned death is but a ‘sword in the hand’. Going even deeper into the core of Christian teaching St Paul mandates the use of capital punishment in appropriate circumstances in Romans 13:4 ‘If thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil’. Meanwhile Matthew reports that Jesus instructed that ‘all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword’. Human life is, indeed, sacred which is why it behoves us to punish those who take it.

The argument that it is morally superior not to execute prisoners is as seductive as it is misleading. It is easy to feel sorry for someone in an orange suit who says they repent of their crime but at the end of the day they did commit a crime. Furthermore the crime they committed, in order to find themselves on death row was no ordinary crime. It was cruel, it was violent and it ended the life of another person, an innocent victim.

It is only right and proper that people are punished for the crimes they commit. It is also right that that punishment be proportionate. What possible punishment other than death could possibly go towards expiating the guilt of the accused, allowing for appropriate retribution and act as a deterrent to others who might wish to commit such crimes.

Most of the arguments against the death penalty; those of inherent unfairness and bias towards the poor or racial minorities or the devastating potential for mistaken execution are both fallacious and misleading.

While we do believe that America could improve its method of executions to ensure that they are as swift and painless as possible we also believe that the death penalty is necessary and important and should remain at the present time.

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Save tax payer money? The smoker does not pay tax? He visit doc without paying?
Imho, a smoker is paying more tax than a non smoker. He is just putting his tobacco tax and income tax with govt for future usage.:biggrin:
There are good and bad apples. Even non smokers also throw rubbish randomly.
Does not apply only smokers who throw cig butts.
The important thing is whatever decision made , you bear the consequence.
No one forcing anyone to smoke.
:biggrin:

Eh Goondu, you smoke so many cigarettes until not only your lung is diseased, your brain also shrunk izzit?

Smoker pay tax so what? Only smoker pay tax izzit? The vast majority of the people are non-smokers and collectively they pay a lot more tax than all the dumbfuck smokers put together. Nowadays after many years of education on the damaging effects of smoking on smokers and non-smokers alike, the highly educated have mostly quit smoking. Only the low SES uneducated goondus like security guards, renovation workers, road sweepers, etc still smoke. In fact, I can tell by the way a person dresses, walks and talks whether he is a smoker or not and 90% of the time I will be correct and these smokers are mostly low SES nincompoops.

Tobacco tax is not for the purpose of collecting revenue, you idiot. It is to discourage smoking by giving those spineless idiots who have no mental disciple a financial pinch and hopefully these jokers will quit because of the financial pain. I don't see what so fucking difficult to quit smoking anyway but obviously most smokers are spineless idiots with very weak willpower. So make it financially painful for these nincompoops to buy cigarettes also no use. Worse, these nincompoops like you start thinking because they pay a little bit of tax they have the right to smoke any where any time and then after dirtying the air with their noxious fumes, they can also dirty the floor with their cig butts and ash.

https://www.singaporebudget.gov.sg/data/budget_2017/download/04 Government Revenue 2017.pdf

If you still can read, you will note from above link that in Singapore tobacco tax for FY2016 is only $1.011 billion out of total tax revenue $58.17 billion. That means the fucking tax that you and other idiot low SES smokers pay when buying your stupid packs account for only 1.73% of total tax revenues!

https://www.healthline.com/health/secondhand-smoke-facts#1

2nd hand smoke is more dangerous to health and it affects NON-SMOKERS. Why the fuck should low SES nincompoops with weak willpower who only buy 1.73% of the total tax revenue of the country be allowed to affect the health of innocent bystanders ie the vast majority of the population? You can take your 1.73% of total tax revenue and shaft it down your toxic ass.

Training and education of doctors are heavily subsidised by the state ie the people who pay the other 98.27% of total tax revenue, even if the doctor is working in a private hospital, he was trained in subsidised medical faculty of NUS and served housemanship in government subsidised hospitals like SGH or NUH. These resources are not unlimited and should not be wasted on fucking nincompoops with weak willpower who cannot muster the courage to quit smoking and get self-inflicted and easily avoidable diseases. These weaklings not only inflict diseases on themselves, but also cause more diseases to those innocent bystanders who collectively pay 50 times more taxes than those fucking weaklings (98.27% vs 1.73%).

You said "No one forcing anyone to smoke", so if you fucking smoke voluntarily and you get a self inflicted disease then you are not entitled to be treated in any hospital in Singapore whether public or private. You should consider yourself lucky that we don't give each of you nincompoops 10 strokes of the rotan every time a non smoker is diagnosed with lung cancer or other disease related to second hand smoke which is involuntarily inhaled mostly because some inconsiderate drug addict sits or stands next to him and start spewing out toxic fumes because that tobacco addict is a weakling with no willpower.

Wait for these fuckers to die from lung cancer will take too long a time even if doctor is not allowed to treat them. So they have to go for corrective work order every week even after they have been diagnosed with lung cancer.

Now, do you know why you should take your 1.73% tobacco tax and shaft it up your filthy smoking ass :FU::FU::FU:
 
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If you don't want to be hanged don't peddle drugs. It's that simple.
 
If you don't want to be hanged don't peddle drugs. It's that simple.
Well said. That why I don't understand why there is this big hoo ha about the death penalty..same as death sentence for murder etc...and yet no one speaks out for the innocent victims etc..if the murderer killed a trouble maker etc than fine..
 
Eh Goondu, you smoke so many cigarettes until not only your lung is diseased, your brain also shrunk izzit?

Smoker pay tax so what? Only smoker pay tax izzit? The vast majority of the people are non-smokers and collectively they pay a lot more tax than all the dumbfuck smokers put together. Nowadays after many years of education on the damaging effects of smoking on smokers and non-smokers alike, the highly educated have mostly quit smoking. Only the low SES uneducated goondus like security guards, renovation workers, road sweepers, etc still smoke. In fact, I can tell by the way a person dresses, walks and talks whether he is a smoker or not and 90% of the time I will be correct and these smokers are mostly low SES nincompoops.

Tobacco tax is not for the purpose of collecting revenue, you idiot. It is to discourage smoking by giving those spineless idiots who have no mental disciple a financial pinch and hopefully these jokers will quit because of the financial pain. I don't see what so fucking difficult to quit smoking anyway but obviously most smokers are spineless idiots with very weak willpower. So make it financially painful for these nincompoops to buy cigarettes also no use. Worse, these nincompoops like you start thinking because they pay a little bit of tax they have the right to smoke any where any time and then after dirtying the air with their noxious fumes, they can also dirty the floor with their cig butts and ash.

https://www.singaporebudget.gov.sg/data/budget_2017/download/04 Government Revenue 2017.pdf

If you still can read, you will note from above link that in Singapore tobacco tax for FY2016 is only $1.011 billion out of total tax revenue $58.17 billion. That means the fucking tax that you and other idiot low SES smokers pay when buying your stupid packs account for only 1.73% of total tax revenues!

https://www.healthline.com/health/secondhand-smoke-facts#1

2nd hand smoke is more dangerous to health and it affects NON-SMOKERS. Why the fuck should low SES nincompoops with weak willpower who only buy 1.73% of the total tax revenue of the country be allowed to affect the health of innocent bystanders ie the vast majority of the population? You can take your 1.73% of total tax revenue and shaft it down your toxic ass.

Training and education of doctors are heavily subsidised by the state ie the people who pay the other 98.27% of total tax revenue, even if the doctor is working in a private hospital, he was trained in subsidised medical faculty of NUS and served housemanship in government subsidised hospitals like SGH or NUH. These resources are not unlimited and should not be wasted on fucking nincompoops with weak willpower who cannot muster the courage to quit smoking and get self-inflicted and easily avoidable diseases. These weaklings not only inflict diseases on themselves, but also cause more diseases to those innocent bystanders who collectively pay 50 times more taxes than those fucking weaklings (98.27% vs 1.73%).

You said "No one forcing anyone to smoke", so if you fucking smoke voluntarily and you get a self inflicted disease then you are not entitled to be treated in any hospital in Singapore whether public or private. You should consider yourself lucky that we don't give each of you nincompoops 10 strokes of the rotan every time a non smoker is diagnosed with lung cancer or other disease related to second hand smoke which is involuntarily inhaled mostly because some inconsiderate drug addict sits or stands next to him and start spewing out toxic fumes because that tobacco addict is a weakling with no willpower.

Wait for these fuckers to die from lung cancer will take too long a time even if doctor is not allowed to treat them. So they have to go for corrective work order every week even after they have been diagnosed with lung cancer.

Now, do you know why you should take your 1.73% tobacco tax and shaft it up your filthy smoking ass :FU::FU::FU:
Wa just a causal remarks make you so high ah?:biggrin:
Nowadays ppl are very cranky.
Everyone entitled and freedom of their comments.
U got agitated, talk so much, write so long, end of day u also LPPL right?:biggrin:
But you talk like real i like it.
 
I support the death penalty. Drug dealers, king pins, drug mules, jihadists, terrorists, hardcore oppies, they should all be hanged!
 
I support the death penalty. Drug dealers, king pins, drug mules, jihadists, terrorists, hardcore oppies, they should all be hanged!

What about faggots?
 
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