Well, no guarantee it will have the desired outcome but at least an attempt was made to solve the problem to prevent it from worsening.
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Dun fuck with this ah neh...
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Well, no guarantee it will have the desired outcome but at least an attempt was made to solve the problem to prevent it from worsening.
Rigid and dogmatic adherence to SOP is the main killer of initiative. People no longer know how to think out of the box, think on their feet and make informed personal judgements anymore. When real crisis hits no one knows what the fuck they're doing.
True story: I was serving ICT once and I commented on the numerous flaws and mistakes found in the teaching material. The warrant officer instructor said that he didn't receive the standard SOP to correct the mistakes, so he left them as they were.
Fuck you, you worthless siphoners of taxpayers' money! You won't make it in the real world outside the cocoon of regimental life, you are utterly naked without hiding behind your uniforms and ranks.
Nothing wrong with SOP. Book is dead one, Human is live one. Unfortunately, all sinkees has been brainwashed so much till they don't know they are brainwashed. Play safe don't play risk. That's the expected outcome. Years of brainwashing by the pappies regime to CONFORM have created zombies and not humans.
I would have did the same if I am sinkiefied, and that is wait for others to cheong first. Luckily I am unsinkiefied, and unsinkiefied will DO FIRST, WORRY LATER!
Luckily, I stay away from Sinkees.
I would have did the same if I am sinkiefied, and that is wait for others to cheong first. Luckily I am unsinkiefied, and unsinkiefied will DO FIRST, WORRY LATER!
Luckily, I stay away from Sinkees.
All DAC balless. Tsk tsk. War time our armed forces also outnumbered easily so just run road la. With the top having such mentality Siao liao.
SINGAPORE — There were huge risks, on both the safety and operational fronts, for ordinary police officers to move in on the rioters in Little India, the Committee of Inquiry (COI) was told yesterday.
Being outnumbered, untrained to deal with such chaos and without the proper gear, the toll of casualties among the law-enforcement forces could have been higher had they rushed in instead of holding their positions, said the Deputy Commander of the Special Operations Command (SOC), which quelled the mob on Dec 8 last year.
Worse, had an officer been taken down while trying to stop the mob, “I can envision the crowd then surging on that and being emboldened by that,” added Deputy Assistant Commissioner (DAC) David Scott Arul.
His backing of the police not actively confronting rioters that night comes a day after the police commander in charge of overseeing ground operations was grilled extensively by the COI on why he decided to “stay put ... and did nothing”.
Since the inquiry began, police actions have been scrutinised for whether they were a factor in the melee lasting as long as it did.
But yesterday, DAC Arul pointed out that the ordinary police officers were too scattered into different groups to deal with the mob effectively. They were also not trained or equipped to deal with riots, he added, unlike the SOC, which has intermediate options, such as the riot baton and tear gas.
DAC Arul added that 37 officers were hurt that day, though the police did not engage the crowd. “I fear that if they had engaged the crowd, we would have seen greater injuries. We might have seen much more severe injuries.”
In contrast, only one of his 48 troopers on the ground was injured because the SOC were “well protected” by their gear.
DAC Arul added: “Our folks came in and we dealt with the situation, and in the days that followed, there was a lot of praise for our troops and I was very proud of them.
“But as I heard reports about what the frontline officers had to deal with, their initial numbers on the ground, and the actions they took, frankly I was quite proud of the fact that they managed to hold that line without being overrun.”
However, COI member Tee Tua Ba, a former police commissioner, said that whether the police were running away out of fear or retreating for tactical reasons was up for debate.
And when COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement, he replied: “I’m not trying to sell an official line — this is my assessment.”
The committee also again cited the example of Sergeant Fadli Shaifuddin, who thrice charged solo at crowds to disperse them, and asked if the police could have done more.
DAC Arul testified, however, that while the officer’s actions were brave, it was “not the most tactically sound way to engage a riot because you risk this escalation that you may not be able to deal with”.
“For several seconds, he brought the crowd back, they came back on him, and according to his statement, he agitated them more, and the projectiles were still flying, drain covers being thrown like Frisbees across the road,” he said.
The COI also heard that the Deputy Commissioner of Police’s orders for the SOC was to arrest as many rioters as possible.
However, DAC Arul said he was unable to comply because he did not have enough men. That was why he had to focus on dispersing the crowd and arrested only those who resisted.
Hopefully not standing too close behind him. Prof Jayakumar's son was my senior in school. Nice guy.
Any idea what's the son doing? Lawyer?
It's musical chair now. Now is see who is best for chopping board. Think this dac lu now is super red horse. 6-5 (win-place )
The matas tripped over and fell while running for their lives.
Only two - Rajakumar and Hoong Wee Teck. But many DACs.
Actually there is no point pinning the blame on the minion officers or mata kias.
The Home Affairs minister, if he's a person of integrity, would have offered to resign after apologizing. No strings attached.
But a pappy would rather die than apologize or give up his cushy high-paying job.
The longer this COI circus drags on, the more it becomes a farce.
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$6-$5? Pai seh hor. Bookies not keen even if tkt price up from $4.20 to $4.60. This Lu chap is 'put $ take$.'
It should have crossed the half way mark by now. The 'meaty' stuff already covered. And we know who will shoulder the blame and shame. Game over.
Actually there is no point pinning the blame on the minion officers or mata kias.
The Home Affairs minister, if he's a person of integrity, would have offered to resign after apologizing. No strings attached.
But a pappy would rather die than apologize or give up his cushy high-paying job.
The longer this COI circus drags on, the more it becomes a farce.
PAP not known to have integrity.... Only known to have thick skin.
No Porn LUI comes to mind...
SINGAPORE — There were huge risks, on both the safety and operational fronts, for ordinary police officers to move in on the rioters in Little India, the Committee of Inquiry (COI) was told yesterday.
Being outnumbered, untrained to deal with such chaos and without the proper gear, the toll of casualties among the law-enforcement forces could have been higher had they rushed in instead of holding their positions, said the Deputy Commander of the Special Operations Command (SOC), which quelled the mob on Dec 8 last year.
Worse, had an officer been taken down while trying to stop the mob, “I can envision the crowd then surging on that and being emboldened by that,” added Deputy Assistant Commissioner (DAC) David Scott Arul.
His backing of the police not actively confronting rioters that night comes a day after the police commander in charge of overseeing ground operations was grilled extensively by the COI on why he decided to “stay put ... and did nothing”.
Since the inquiry began, police actions have been scrutinised for whether they were a factor in the melee lasting as long as it did.
But yesterday, DAC Arul pointed out that the ordinary police officers were too scattered into different groups to deal with the mob effectively. They were also not trained or equipped to deal with riots, he added, unlike the SOC, which has intermediate options, such as the riot baton and tear gas.
DAC Arul added that 37 officers were hurt that day, though the police did not engage the crowd. “I fear that if they had engaged the crowd, we would have seen greater injuries. We might have seen much more severe injuries.”
In contrast, only one of his 48 troopers on the ground was injured because the SOC were “well protected” by their gear.
DAC Arul added: “Our folks came in and we dealt with the situation, and in the days that followed, there was a lot of praise for our troops and I was very proud of them.
“But as I heard reports about what the frontline officers had to deal with, their initial numbers on the ground, and the actions they took, frankly I was quite proud of the fact that they managed to hold that line without being overrun.”
However, COI member Tee Tua Ba, a former police commissioner, said that whether the police were running away out of fear or retreating for tactical reasons was up for debate.
And when COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement, he replied: “I’m not trying to sell an official line — this is my assessment.”
The committee also again cited the example of Sergeant Fadli Shaifuddin, who thrice charged solo at crowds to disperse them, and asked if the police could have done more.
DAC Arul testified, however, that while the officer’s actions were brave, it was “not the most tactically sound way to engage a riot because you risk this escalation that you may not be able to deal with”.
“For several seconds, he brought the crowd back, they came back on him, and according to his statement, he agitated them more, and the projectiles were still flying, drain covers being thrown like Frisbees across the road,” he said.
The COI also heard that the Deputy Commissioner of Police’s orders for the SOC was to arrest as many rioters as possible.
However, DAC Arul said he was unable to comply because he did not have enough men. That was why he had to focus on dispersing the crowd and arrested only those who resisted.
Head bang. You train for terrorist attacks, you call men up for mobilisation, you charge them if they go AWOL but you cant stop a small riot?!!!
what do you expect from a country with a Minister Mentor.
And minister emeritus!
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