Dumb fuck Hamas leaders easily tricked by superior IQ Israelis

[syed putra]

U nid to have ur head check. Why shld Palestinian leave? Its their land. Has been robbed by Zionist jew.

Forgiveness. Very common word but seldom used.

 

[syed putra]

In bible term, Israel has the protection of all mighty God. That's why the Ishmaelite got their butt kick and ego bruised.
In the worldly term, the Arab are real ass hole. They can't even beat the tiny Israel. What are they being fed off day in day out through the Generations ? Stupid to the core.

The jews got their butt kicked by babylonians, egyptians, greek, romans. It was arabs that treated them decently,

 

[Eisenhut]

In bible term, Israel has the protection of all mighty God. That's why the Ishmaelite got their butt kick and ego bruised.
In the worldly term, the Arab are real ass hole. They can't even beat the tiny Israel. What are they being fed off day in day out through the Generations ? Stupid to the core.

In the end 7 yrs of tribulation , Israel will be brought to breaking point by a "world army" and then messiah will appear. (To christian , its 2nd coming of christ)

What can bring Israel to its knees? When opposing army consist of Russia, China support, may not be soldier but in terms of tech and weapons. Israel could still be supported by waning USA.

 

[whoami]

Forgiveness. Very common word but seldom used.

I m sure Palestinian willg to forgive those zionist. But they shld stop chasg palestinian out of their home! Let them have their own state self rule

 

[syed putra]

I m sure Palestinian willg to forgive those zionist. But they shld stop chasg palestinian out of their home! Let them have their own state self rule

I think after decades of israel occupation, pslestine should tell israel, what is it for them to get a place of their own, no more hassle, free to travel and do business. Currently, israel will not allow any new construction in palestine. All are illegal. Any time can be demolished even if its on your own property. How to plan long term? Its like being strangled to death.
Just to travel or trade you need israel permission first.cannot anyhow fly like we do. Or import/ export

 

[congo9]

The jews got their butt kicked by babylonians, egyptians, greek, romans. It was arabs that treated them decently,

The Jews got their ass sold to the egyptian.
But 1949, they come back as a nation. The 6 day war, the dumb or inferior Arabs got their Ass kick hard.

 

[congo9]

In the end 7 yrs of tribulation , Israel will be brought to breaking point by a "world army" and then messiah will appear. (To christian , its 2nd coming of christ)

What can bring Israel to its knees? When opposing army consist of Russia, China support, may not be soldier but in terms of tech and weapons. Israel could still be supported by waning USA.

If bible said so, it shall surely come to pass.

But it is not happening in our time. Just not time yet.

 

[JohnTan]

The jews got their butt kicked by babylonians, egyptians, greek, romans. It was arabs that treated them decently,

Beheading male Jews and raping their wives is not treating them decently. Anyway, fake prophet mo got his just desserts when he died from poisoning by his jewish concubine.

 

[congo9]

But the debris still falls down to the ground.
Malayan army will not attack but defend using the jungle.like the vietcongs.
US and australian army regularly trains at their camp in malacca on jungle warfare.

Costs of iron dome missile is around 80k per piece.
Cost of rocket from Palestine is negligible

 

[glockman]

Of course teres Heaven n Hell. All ur actions will be accounted. U will be tortured in the grave first before come Judgement Day where u will be resurrected. Ahem...only resurrected once ya. No again n again n again.....

Yes yes whatever! In a perfect world, Judaism, Islam and Christianity would unite and combine forces to whack the Hindus (just because they eat cow dung and drink cow piss. And gave us the indian covid) and the CCP who started Covid. The descendants of Abraham would rule the world.

 

[Eisenhut]

If bible said so, it shall surely come to pass.

But it is not happening in our time. Just not time yet.

Prophecy of Israel coming back as nation was fulfilled , wasn't it?

 

[Rogue Trader]

Let's not talk about religion for a while. Let's not talk about race and IQ.

The Israelis are just fuckers trying to steal the land inhabited by Palestinians for generations through an unfair court order. This is gangsterism.

Just look at this fat pig Jew behaving like a gangster. Notice his New York accent



Palestinian woman: you are stealing my land!
Fat fuck Jew: if I don't steal it someone else will...

 

[Rogue Trader]

Anyway .. the west's support for Israel seems to be muted this time round.

The EU and UK know that the more the middle east becomes unstable, more refugees will arrive by the boatloads to swarm their countries. They have been giving Israel support in the past because of the Holocaust. But I think Israel may be wearing out Europe's patience with their heavy handed ways in the Holy Land

 

[Rogue Trader]

Forgiveness. Very common word but seldom used.

And I'm sure the orang asli will forgive malays for taking over their lands

 

[glockman]

I received this information from a reliable and respected source. Thought I share it here.


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On the issue of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it's important to see & understand the issue through the lense of time.

I've done the heavy lifting here.

This is a list of all the empires that ruled over that piece of land we call Israel / Palestine.

6500 BCE - Yarmukian
2500 BCE - Canaanites / Israelites
1500 BCE - Egyptian New Kingdom XVIII
1200 BCE - Canaanites / Israelites <- Story of Moses here
720 BCE - Assyrian Empire (Semites)
600 BCE - Babylonian Empire (Semites)
535 BCE - Achaemenid Empire (Persian)
330 BCE - Macedonian Greek Empire
300 BCE - Seleucid Empire
54 BCE - Roman Empire
0 - Birth of Jesus Christ
610 AD - Byzantine / Sassanid Empire
632 AD - (Death of Prophet Muhammad)
640 AD - Rashidun Caliphate <- (1st Arab/Muslim Empire)
660 AD - Umayyad Caliphate
750 AD - Abbasid Caliphate
970 AD - Fatimad Caliphate
1075 AD - Seljuq Empire
1100 AD - Crusaders
1190 AD - Ayyubids
1250 AD - Mamluks
1290 AD - Random Settlers
1515 AD - Ottoman Empire
1920 AD - UK Zone
1923 AD - Palestine
1948 AD - Israel

Takeaway points:

1. Israelites/Canaanites - 1,480 years
Israelis and Jews first settled into the territory in 2500 BCE. They were there for 1,000 years before being invaded by Egypt. Egypt ruled for 300 years before being overthrown by the Israelites/Canaanites once again. Moses freeing the Israelites from Egyptian rule in the Bible occured during this period.

2. Assyrians & Babylonians - 185 years
Then came the Assyrians, who were Semitic speaking people. Basically descendants of Israelites/Canaanites but with several modifications. Babylonians as well.

3. Achaemenid (Persians) - 205 years
4. Greeks - 276 years
5. Romans - 694 years
6. Muslim Arabs - 875 years
7. Ottomans (Turks) - 405 years
8. UK - 3 years
9. Palestine - 25 years
10. Israel - 73 years and counting

Ultimately, who gets to decide if the land belongs to the Jews, Iranians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Turks, British, or Palestinians?

Muslims often say that:
1. Israel stole Palestinian / Arab land.
2. Jews are from Europe and they're a landless people.
3. Muslims often paint a narrative that the evil British helped the Jews steal their land and that it wasn't theirs to give away, all without realising European Greeks and Romans set foot on that piece of land 970 years before a single Arab did

All of which are either blatant lies or stem from misinformation or a place of pure ignorance.

We need to frame this topic of discussion in the lense of history as a whole, not just post-640AD after Muslims annexed the land or after the 1923 British Mandate of Palestine.

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Edit (15th May 2021):

To clarify, I take no sides. I'm neither pro-Israel nor am I pro-Palestinian.

I just enjoy reading about history objectively and aggregating information to find the truth, and in the process, call out hypocrisy and misinformation if they are present.

The popular mass media has been framing this situation as an Israel vs Palestine issue, when really, it's more like Israel vs Fatah vs Hamas issue.

Fatah - Led by Chairman & current Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
Political position: Centre-Left to Left Wing

It's ideologies include:
- Palestinian Nationalism
- Social Democracy
- Secularism
- Two state solution (peaceful co-existence)

Hamas - Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist, militant, nationalistic organisation.
Political position: Far-Right

It's ideologies include:
- Palestinian Nationalism
- Islamism
- Religious Nationalism
- Anti-Zionism
- One state solution (complete destruction of the state of Israel)
- Antisemitism

The last democratic election held in Palestine happened in 2006. At the time, Hamas won an astonishing 76 out of 132 seats, and Fatah 43.

It was the first time in Palestinian history in which Hamas won more seats than Fatah. It ended more than 40 years of political domination by Fatah. To showcase the significance of the event, in the 1996 election, Fatah co-founder & leader Yasser Arafat won 89.8% of votes.

This year, the Legislative election was scheduled for 22 May 2021. Mahmoud Abbas, leader of Fatah realised that Hamas was projected to win again. This will mean that the future of Palestine will tip closer towards more conflict and warfare as Hamas does not believe in peaceful co-existence with Israel.

In the context of game theory, this current conflict represents:

1. Win for Fatah - The target of shelling & air raids conducted by Israel are targeted towards Hamas. Abbas is indirectly using Israel to wipe out Hamas leaders, troops, infrastructure & resources.

2. Win for Hamas - Despite losing manpower, resources, & infrastructure, Hamas wins through the distribution of mass propaganda & playing up the victim card to global audiences.

Hamas is famous for launching missiles from densely populated civilian neighbourhoods (search for Hamas missile launching videos on the internet, you'll even see tons of civilians gathered around live firing rocket artillery cheering 'Allahu Akhbar'.

When Israeli Defence Forces identify the location of the launch sites, of course they'd strike back to stop the barrage of incoming missiles. It is then invariable that civilians used by Hamas as human shields would be killed.

This achieves Hamas' objectives of vilifying Israel + gaining global sympathy + stoking calls for death to Israel, thus increasing their own popularity amongst Palestinian voters to win future elections. In a sense, it's a short term loss, for long term gains.

3. Loss for Israel - Israel as the dominant power, has more to lose from instability in the region. They're surrounded in the north by Lebanon (Hezbollah), north-east by Syria (ISIS), East by Jordan & Saudi Arabia, and south-west by Egypt. All of which believe in death to Israel.

Ask yourself, what does Israel stand to gain from an overt military conflict when they can quietly increase more settlers in the West Bank over time?

All the breadcrumbs leads to Palestine starting this conflict.

 

[laksaboy]

The Muslims really hate the Yahudis, the state of Israel really, really triggers them.

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Jews=kosher=substitute for halal

 

[syed putra]

The Muslims really hate the Yahudis, the state of Israel really, really triggers them.

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It wasn't like this before the creation of israel. Baghdad, morocco and iran had huge jewish population unscathed. Central baghdad was in fact majority jewish.
The creation of israel brought out the worst of muslim behaviour.

 

[laksaboy]

 

[whoami]

I think after decades of israel occupation, pslestine should tell israel, what is it for them to get a place of their own, no more hassle, free to travel and do business. Currently, israel will not allow any new construction in palestine. All are illegal. Any time can be demolished even if its on your own property. How to plan long term? Its like being strangled to death.
Just to travel or trade you need israel permission first.cannot anyhow fly like we do. Or import/ export

So now u know the answer? Very simple. Teres no solution to the problem cos Israel will not return an inch of land to the Palestinian. All those 2 state stuff are all wayang and BS.