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Dip into nation's savings for 'crisis hongbao'?

metalslug

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http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,190282,00.html?

Dip into nation's savings for 'crisis hongbao'?
SM Goh says Government is considering measure
By Shree Ann Mathavan

January 20, 2009




PROTECTING Singapore's reserves is a sacred cow.

Indeed, laws have been changed so an elected president can serve as a custodian of the nation's hard-earned savings.

But exceptional times might call for exceptional steps. And the Government is considering using part of the reserves to help people cope with a recession, that could be the worst in Singapore's history.


So said Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong yesterday morning, when he distributed $100 hongbaos and trolley loads of festive goodies to 41 needy residents from his Marine Parade constituency.

SM Goh noted that Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam were considering the unprecedented measure of getting the President's approval to dip into the reserves.

He said: 'The (economic) weather is so bad and we've always said that the reserves are for a rainy day. If this is not a rainy day, I don't know what is.'

Nevertheless, dipping into the reserves would be a tough call to make.

SM Goh said: 'It's a difficult decision because once you do that, you may open the reserves for future demands, which may not justify the use of the reserves.'

The possibility of this radical move was first floated by PM Lee last Friday.

These comments will fuel expectations as Singaporeans await a crisis Budget, to be announced this Thursday in Parliament.

Political commentators and observers that The New Paper spoke to welcomed the news.

Citigroup economist Mr Kit Wei Zheng feels the time is certainly right for a decisive move by a government that tends to be fiscally conservative.

He stressed: 'We've not digging into the reserves all the time, these are exceptional circumstances.

'One needs bold moves in these times, it's a national emergency.'

Mr Choo Zheng Xi, 23, editor in chief of The Online Citizen, a socio-political website, noted that the Government had previously strongly indicated in parliament its refusal to dip into the reserves, despite calls from the Opposition to do so.

Hence, Mr Choo said: 'The fact that they have readjusted their position shows that there are very persuasive reasons involved.

'It could be because of the bad economic climate and there could also be the possibility of elections held this year.'

Political observer and former nominated member of parliament Mr Zulkifli Baharudin, 49, a businessman, thinks the drastic measure is indicative of the 'very bad' times ahead for Singaporeans.

He said: 'The fact that the Government is considering the move shows that this time is different - that this crisis is more serious than any other that we've experienced before.

'Having to use our reserves is not something to be happy about,' he said.

It means that the dreaded 'rainy day' is indeed here.
 

congo9

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My god .......... if we have so much billion inside the banks , why not use it ?

What the use of accumulating all the reservve in the end got squandared away by giving to foreign banks ? These are money accumulated by our fore fathers. Not money for PAP to play santa Clause or pay themself million of dollars by looking at their past achievement. What has the this generation of Minister and MPs or Perm Secetary do to receive such rumuneration ?

After all , one TOP Civil Servant (TYS) can go on leave for 5 weeks without effecting his work. That means it also time to trim the FAT of the TOP HEAVY civil service. Also cut the ridicilous MINDEF BUDGET by a few billion and stop buying fanciful toys. This will save a few billions easily. Which country in South East Asia will want to attack Singapore ?

But i seriously doubt , how much reserve do we have left , after this heavy round of losses !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Cestbon

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If money come from own Ministers or MPs pocket money for HongPao and goodies I don't mind but if come from tax payers money. FUCK those ministers.
 

eeoror88

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After taking handout angpow :-

Peasants at Kranji Race Course:-

Peasants : Sar Hor Kee ... Sar Hor Kee ... alamak KNN ... jockey tarik !!

Peasants in unison : When next handout ah ????:eek::eek::eek:
 

PAPsupporter

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My god .......... if we have so much billion inside the banks , why not use it ?

What the use of accumulating all the reservve in the end got squandared away by giving to foreign banks ? These are money accumulated by our fore fathers. Not money for PAP to play santa Clause or pay themself million of dollars by looking at their past achievement. What has the this generation of Minister and MPs or Perm Secetary do to receive such rumuneration ?

After all , one TOP Civil Servant (TYS) can go on leave for 5 weeks without effecting his work. That means it also time to trim the FAT of the TOP HEAVY civil service.

But i seriously doubt , how much reserve do we have left , after this heavy round of losses !!!!!!!!!!!!

The reserves cannot be anyhow use. It only can be use during rainy days like this economic crisis to help Singapore to overcome the difficulties. Not to worry as our great PAP has done it before to help Singapore overcome a few major crisis over the years. Well done PAP.
 

metalslug

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http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,190281,00.html?

Unlocking the reserves
January 20, 2009




PRESIDENT SR Nathan serves as the custodian of Singapore's reserves.

The nation's Constitution was amended in 1991 to create an elected presidency which would safeguard Singapore's past reserves.

In the past, only the interest and dividends earned on the reserves could be spent.


In October last year, the Government proposed an amendment to the Constitution on spending of investment returns on reserves - to enable government income to keep pace with expenditure.

Now, the Government can spend up to half of the net investment income on the reserves, from interest and dividends paid out each year.

These make up only a small portion of total investment returns.

The new spending rule sets the cap at half of the net investment returns, which include capital gains - that is, the change in the value of investments as prices rise.

Extra funds

This move will give the government extra funds worth about 2 per cent of Singapore's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for government spending on increased infrastructure.

When the government makes a request for reserves to be spent, the President will consult with the Council of Presidential Advisers .

Last October, for the first time in close to 18years, the Singapore Government called on the President to approve a $150 billion bank guarantee package, which will be drawn from the reserves if needed.
 

eeoror88

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Peasants : Hor Seh Liow !! Now can buy proper (non-fecal) cigarettes and go Kranji Turf Club after handouts !!
 

angie II

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"Wrong my doggy... on rainy days i can distribute free umbrellas nationwide
but not dipping into reserves as my daughter in law need it most"
 

jw5

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My god .......... if we have so much billion inside the banks , why not use it ?

What the use of accumulating all the reservve in the end got squandared away by giving to foreign banks ? These are money accumulated by our fore fathers. Not money for PAP to play santa Clause or pay themself million of dollars by looking at their past achievement. What has the this generation of Minister and MPs or Perm Secetary do to receive such rumuneration ?

After all , one TOP Civil Servant (TYS) can go on leave for 5 weeks without effecting his work. That means it also time to trim the FAT of the TOP HEAVY civil service. Also cut the ridicilous MINDEF BUDGET by a few billion and stop buying fanciful toys. This will save a few billions easily. Which country in South East Asia will want to attack Singapore ?

But i seriously doubt , how much reserve do we have left , after this heavy round of losses !!!!!!!!!!!!
They are keeping the reserves for their great great great great great great grandchildren.
 
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