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Dating (or possibly a relationship) with a vegan man. I would like to hear your views.

my dog gets to eat grass-fed, free-range, naturally raised, organic, wholesome beef from cattle in northern california, airflown wild caught lobsters from the cool waters off maine, and freshly flown wild caught sockeye salmon from alaska. i eat only scraps that are left behind, and those meat constitute part of my 69% vege diet.
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hey! did you have to snip the tail down the centreline and prop the meat up or was it already done 4 u?
 
Some questions I am just thinking aloud.

1. Will I be coerced into becoming a vegan?
2. Even if we can agree to disagree and respect each other's diet choice, how to maintain a household that is half vegan half meat eaters. The kitchen may need to be "reorganised". Right?
3. Going out to eat will be extremely difficult in the long run. Isn't it?
4. Do vegans hate me buying leather designer branded bags or fashion?

Any views will be much appreciated before my decision making day.

Thank you in advance.
Veganism is by definition ideological extremism. Just like any other extremists, their mental state is questionable. Of course if your mental state is equally questionable, go for it! :thumbsup: It could workout well!
 
The dog will run away at the 1st sign of trouble..anyway there is nothing wrong in eating dogs.
you're probably right about his dog, but for me, if something can give a shit about me. I will return the favour. I will happily chow down on a horse which upsets a lot of people.

but at this moment, our gahmen disagrees with you. It is illegal. Happens a lot in Indonesia though.
 
you're probably right about his dog, but for me, if something can give a shit about me. I will return the favour. I will happily chow down on a horse which upsets a lot of people.

but at this moment, our gahmen disagrees with you. It is illegal. Happens a lot in Indonesia though.
That is why our govt is wrong..fucking BS ang mor influence. Eating dog is a proud Asian tradition. The ang mors don't like it. They can F off
 
you're probably right about his dog, but for me, if something can give a shit about me. I will return the favour. I will happily chow down on a horse which upsets a lot of people.

but at this moment, our gahmen disagrees with you. It is illegal. Happens a lot in Indonesia though.
This dog attacked its owners and the stupid are defending the dog. This is an example of more heart than brains. They like the dog so much..why they themselves never adopt it?

AVS rules out animal cruelty in Loki's euthanasia case, netizens refuse to believe the owners had tried everything - The Online Citizen
Following the case of an adopted mongrel called Loki who was then euthanised because of apparent aggression, the Animal and Veterinary Services (AVS) had responded that the veterinarians who performed euthanasia on Loki did not breach the Code of Ethics.
Claiming that the mongrel was adopted by a couple back in December 2017 when it was “afraid of loud noises”, “averse to men” and “nervous around children”, the AVS said that he had grown to be about 25kg in 2018 and 2019, and became “more confident and confrontational”.
AVS also claimed that the dog had panic attacks “with no known triggers”, and an increase of bite and attack incidents.
A timeline was also disclosed, describing 12 occasions that occurred before the Loki’s owners opted for euthanasia.
It was revealed that the dog had bitten the owner’s friends and relative, child of the owner’s friends, as well as the owner himself.
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As reported on CNA, the owner had discussed with Mount Pleasant veterinary on options like rehoming Loki, rehabilitation with behavioural modification drugs and training, or euthanasia as “last resort”.
It was revealed that Loki was given behavioural drugs with the help from the vet and trainer. The trainer mentioned that it would require another six months of training before Loki could be reassessed.
Following the trainer’s words, the vet then “persuaded” the owners to rehome the mongrel. AVS claimed that the owners failed to find new owners for the dog despite “multiple efforts”.
“We understand that what the owners did was to approach their own acquaintances. We also understand that the trainer himself tried to look for rehoming options and even the vets chipped in,” said the AVS spokesperson.
The process of searching for a new owner ended with an animal shelter in Malaysia, but due to the Movement Control Order (MCO) in the neighbouring country, it was not able to proceed.
“In the end, it was only (an) animal shelter in Malaysia that came back as an option, and unfortunately that couldn’t be put into action because of the COVID-19 situation.”
AVS also revealed that Loki’s owners did not contact Exclusively Mongrels – the shelter where they adopted Loki.
The event that prompted Loki’s euthanasia
The decision to euthanise the dog occurred when his owners had a newborn child this April. The couple noticed that Loki was “uncomfortable and nervous” around the baby.
The dog bit the owner on his lips on 19 April when he was trying to get a cover that the dog was lying on, and the report said that it was something that had been done multiple times before. The owner ended up requiring stitches, a tetanus vaccine and oral antibiotics.
His wife contacted Mount Pleasant clinic the next day, expressing her wish to euthanise Loki by telling the vet that their dog had “attacked a family member”, and that their family’s safety was of “great concern”.
With the vet’s agreement, Loki was euthanised that evening.
In the veterinary’s defence, the AVS expressed that the vet had worked with the owners over several weeks to rehome, train and use modification drugs on Loki.
The AVS also mentioned that there was no evidence of animal cruelty due to the fact that Loki had been observed to get along with his owners “with no evidence of abuse or mistreatment”.
Netizens do not believe Loki’s owners had tried everything
Once the update from AVS was reported by the media, it was flooded with comments by netizens showing their anger against Loki’s owners.
Many questioned the lengths the owners had taken to rehome the mongrel and yet failed to contact Exclusively Mongrels throughout the whole process.
People could not wrap their heads around the fact that the owners did not think of returning Loki to the shelter where they adopted him. Leon pointed out that they went the distance to find a shelter in Malaysia, suggesting that it was an act of avenging the mongrel for biting them over the years.
Li Sar had made similar remarks saying that the owners euthanised their mongrel “out of revenge” because they got angry at him about the biting events.
The majority of netizens who expressed their thoughts on this matter do not believe that Loki deserved death when he is a young and healthy dog.
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This dog attacked its owners and the stupid are defending the dog. This is an example of more heart than brains. They like the dog so much..why they themselves never adopt it?

AVS rules out animal cruelty in Loki's euthanasia case, netizens refuse to believe the owners had tried everything - The Online Citizen
Following the case of an adopted mongrel called Loki who was then euthanised because of apparent aggression, the Animal and Veterinary Services (AVS) had responded that the veterinarians who performed euthanasia on Loki did not breach the Code of Ethics.
Claiming that the mongrel was adopted by a couple back in December 2017 when it was “afraid of loud noises”, “averse to men” and “nervous around children”, the AVS said that he had grown to be about 25kg in 2018 and 2019, and became “more confident and confrontational”.
AVS also claimed that the dog had panic attacks “with no known triggers”, and an increase of bite and attack incidents.
A timeline was also disclosed, describing 12 occasions that occurred before the Loki’s owners opted for euthanasia.
It was revealed that the dog had bitten the owner’s friends and relative, child of the owner’s friends, as well as the owner himself.
loki-dog-bite-euthanasia-owner-children.jpg

As reported on CNA, the owner had discussed with Mount Pleasant veterinary on options like rehoming Loki, rehabilitation with behavioural modification drugs and training, or euthanasia as “last resort”.
It was revealed that Loki was given behavioural drugs with the help from the vet and trainer. The trainer mentioned that it would require another six months of training before Loki could be reassessed.
Following the trainer’s words, the vet then “persuaded” the owners to rehome the mongrel. AVS claimed that the owners failed to find new owners for the dog despite “multiple efforts”.
“We understand that what the owners did was to approach their own acquaintances. We also understand that the trainer himself tried to look for rehoming options and even the vets chipped in,” said the AVS spokesperson.
The process of searching for a new owner ended with an animal shelter in Malaysia, but due to the Movement Control Order (MCO) in the neighbouring country, it was not able to proceed.

AVS also revealed that Loki’s owners did not contact Exclusively Mongrels – the shelter where they adopted Loki.
The event that prompted Loki’s euthanasia
The decision to euthanise the dog occurred when his owners had a newborn child this April. The couple noticed that Loki was “uncomfortable and nervous” around the baby.
The dog bit the owner on his lips on 19 April when he was trying to get a cover that the dog was lying on, and the report said that it was something that had been done multiple times before. The owner ended up requiring stitches, a tetanus vaccine and oral antibiotics.
His wife contacted Mount Pleasant clinic the next day, expressing her wish to euthanise Loki by telling the vet that their dog had “attacked a family member”, and that their family’s safety was of “great concern”.
With the vet’s agreement, Loki was euthanised that evening.
In the veterinary’s defence, the AVS expressed that the vet had worked with the owners over several weeks to rehome, train and use modification drugs on Loki.
The AVS also mentioned that there was no evidence of animal cruelty due to the fact that Loki had been observed to get along with his owners “with no evidence of abuse or mistreatment”.
Netizens do not believe Loki’s owners had tried everything
Once the update from AVS was reported by the media, it was flooded with comments by netizens showing their anger against Loki’s owners.
Many questioned the lengths the owners had taken to rehome the mongrel and yet failed to contact Exclusively Mongrels throughout the whole process.
People could not wrap their heads around the fact that the owners did not think of returning Loki to the shelter where they adopted him. Leon pointed out that they went the distance to find a shelter in Malaysia, suggesting that it was an act of avenging the mongrel for biting them over the years.
Li Sar had made similar remarks saying that the owners euthanised their mongrel “out of revenge” because they got angry at him about the biting events.
The majority of netizens who expressed their thoughts on this matter do not believe that Loki deserved death when he is a young and healthy dog.
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respectfully, eating dogs and this particular case are quite different in nature. one's a broad philosophical statement about generalities. This is one specific case which a lot of netizens kpkb without 1st hand seeing the dog and being intimate with the nuances of the case. In this Loki case you can rightfully say it's angmoh influence to kpkb 1st. Although at this point, I'm also unsure whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.

As mentioned elsewhere about single mothers. woman have many types. man have many types. dog also have many types. Going back to generalities, if a species is capable of showing me empathy and compassion, I will reciprocate. Doesn't mean I won't whack some motherfucking dog anyhow bite to Jurong and Yishun. There are also dogs which I believed should be put down outright. And there are dogs that no matter how much love and patience you show will come for you. It's the same with humans.

I personally think these people should find out more before they kpkb. A lot of 'net judgments from hearsay.

As a final note, you mention heart and brains. Why must they be mutually exclusive? Wouldn't it be good to have more of both?
 
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