the electorate has to decide whether it is a mature rational first world electorate or not?...fm the GE11 results i am inclined to think that the majority of the electorate is not far fm being a mature rational first world electorate...look wif a FPTP electoral system even 50.1% amounts to a seat...the loser has to accept this n rationally move on to strategise for the next GE...
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CSJ: Singapore is taking the first steps to true democracy
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Yes to AV for Singapore--not that it will help
Dr Chee got his role to play and contributions too. i respect him, but dont have good impression of him due to what he did to CST and how he got SDP. CST SDP actually was doing what WP is doing now. non confrontational, provide alternatives, check and balance in the parliament. if Dr Chee never force CST out of SDP, SDP might be No.2 in parliament and WP might be No.3 now. We will have 3 major parties to check and balance each other.
after Dr Chee got SDP, he choose the "take the fight to the street" like barisan sosialis last time. look at what Dr Chee did last time, i cant help feeling that he behave like a communist left wing activist although he is the leader of Singapore Democratic PArty. 反对有理！革命无罪！！！ hehehe.
right to protest for the people is nothing wrong in a democratic country (are we?
)and sometime i find our gov over do it when handling protest. but the line between civil disobedience and unrest is very thin.
winning hearts and beat the pap at its own game (by winning GRC) is what LTK is doing.
in my opinion, if SDP want to take off in political arena. Dr Chee should step down and let somebody take over the leadership as a renewal process. especially now with so many outstanding candidates and members. he can still serve SDP in a non executive role.
thank you
after Dr Chee got SDP, he choose the "take the fight to the street" like barisan sosialis last time. look at what Dr Chee did last time, i cant help feeling that he behave like a communist left wing activist although he is the leader of Singapore Democratic PArty. 反对有理！革命无罪！！！ hehehe.
right to protest for the people is nothing wrong in a democratic country (are we?
)and sometime i find our gov over do it when handling protest. but the line between civil disobedience and unrest is very thin.winning hearts and beat the pap at its own game (by winning GRC) is what LTK is doing.
in my opinion, if SDP want to take off in political arena. Dr Chee should step down and let somebody take over the leadership as a renewal process. especially now with so many outstanding candidates and members. he can still serve SDP in a non executive role.
thank you
Dr Chee got his role to play and contributions too. i respect him, but dont have good impression of him due to what he did to CST and how he got SDP. CST SDP actually was doing what WP is doing now. non confrontational, provide alternatives, check and balance in the parliament. if Dr Chee never force CST out of SDP, SDP might be No.2 in parliament and WP might be No.3 now. We will have 3 major parties to check and balance each other.
after Dr Chee got SDP, he choose the "take the fight to the street" like barisan sosialis last time. look at what Dr Chee did last time, i cant help feeling that he behave like a communist left wing activist although he is the leader of Singapore Democratic PArty. 反对有理！革命无罪！！！ hehehe.
right to protest for the people is nothing wrong in a democratic country (are we?
winning hearts and beat the pap at its own game (by winning GRC) is what LTK is doing.
in my opinion, if SDP want to take off in political arena. Dr Chee should step down and let somebody take over the leadership as a renewal process. especially now with so many outstanding candidates and members. he can still serve SDP in a non executive role.
thank you
Chee is a failure and a nutcase to compare himself to Aung San Suu Kyi or Mandela--he no freedom fighter. I say again, Tan Jee Say should take over or Chima should re-take the party that was rightfully his.
very soon, SDP IB would accuse u as being one of my clones. LOL! sorry to ve caused u being marked by SDP IB.
I doubt they will accuse me as your clone.
If SDP supporters do not like what I mentioned about Dr. Chee ( bye )
they can jolly well put me in their ignore list :pI was wondering who are Dr. Chee ( bye ) overseas backers ? Tang ? Seow ?
How come they did not pump the funds over to discharge him from bankruptcy ?
Playing spectator to such a major event is like watching the rest of the grown-ups have an orgy while Dr. Chee can only wank himself.
Even Little Nonya Nicole get to chark Prince on national TV
I concur with what you've observed. SDP does not toe the line thus it's deem to be confrontational and believe it or not this is one party that'll bring about the downfall of the Papzis. I've said this before and I'll say it again. The Papzis being what they are knows what threats Democrats especially Dr Chee are to them and feared so much that they have to bring in every heavy machinery they have trying to destroy if not contain them.
WP may have made inroad but that small percentage is not good enough, they'll oppose but they'll still toe the line and nothing is going to change. It'll be naive to even think that the arrogant Papzis with a few half bake apologies here and there meant changes. The GE results may seem like a wake up call but it's nothing more than the Papzis waking up to take a leak thereafter back to sleep again with its status quo.
SDP is a failure and will forever be with Chee at the helm. No one cares about Human Rights first (Western nations have excessively violated human rights) nor do they care about pure democracy--no such thing in the world.
That's your opinion, you're entitled to. I dont know what's your problem with Dr Chee, what has he done to you and I dont care. You obviously dont know or understand what are human rights and what the world is about. I cant help but wonder is there any dignity in you living your life.
Human Rights? Let's see--US torturing so called combatants in Cuba while preaching human rights to China? Good example of Human Rights. British policemen beating protests in the head and kettling students while complaining about Libya? Strong Human Rights. I'm sure theirs dignity in that yes?
Chee is going against a lost cause and is a nutcase through and through. Pray tell why the SDP lost all its seats after Chee licked Chiam out?
Chee Soon Juan lost the moment he forced out Chiam See Tong. Singaporeans won't forgive him for that. He is terribly intelligent and speaks well but his heart is crafty. He is dangerous, he has proven it, I don't think I will be comfortable with such a man in power.
Yien Ay! How are you?
My opinion on CSJ differs from yours. If CSJ was under the payroll of foreigners or a foreign entity, he would have been caught with pants down long ago.
Let me offer you my theory. CSJ gets paid by our govt to earlier demolish SDP when it was ascending. He now 'covers' the NGOs for the MIW. Which NGO, with designs on S'pore, would believe that CSJ is not really the man he claims to be? He kena bankrupted and incarcerated. Those credentials will convince many he is anti-PAP. In reality, he is also a 'civil servant'.
Dont confuse yourself with what're human rights and what're human rights abuses, they're two totally different things. You'll be looking at insanity in no time if you continue to dwell on the differences and unable to tell them apart. Where do you think you get those information from, it's from humans who believe in rights and living with dignity.
Dr Chee is a champion for a cause that humans have rights and should live with dignity, it's not a lost cause and never will be. SDP loosing seats, happenings between Dr Chee and Chiam is history. You're still living in the past, I suggest you get back into the present and have your sanity back and not let it degenerate into brain death.
It's Chee who will keep the party from winning and Chee who is ultra concern over the lofty ideal of human rights--if he cares for Singaporeans, why is he so concern over Burma? And why hasn't he persuaded the US to impose sanctions on Singapore?
Apparently you still dont get it do you? Dr Chee is ahead of his time, his brand of politics. It's not Dr Chee that's keeping the party from winning. It's the Papzis persecution and to some extent the electorates' ignorance of what true democracy is all about.
In years to come as more of the younger generation comes of age the picture will be different. Human rights concerns all humans, why Burma, the writing is on the wall. The military junta, parallel to the Papzis they persecute dissents, Aung San Suu Kyi the whole free world knows. Sanction on singapore, dont go beyond your imagination. US is our ally, unless violation is too great to be ignore, no one is capable of anything in that nature.
Chee will forever lose. Simple. You are the one who doesnt get it. Chee is a born rebel with no vision like his pal Gopalan Nair.
金龙大哥 ,
Doing fine.
Hope you made a killing at RWS lately
Hmmm .... so Dr. Chee is officially an unofficial Pappy pet ? :p
After usurping Chiam's throne , he wants to do the rest in ?
Whoever follow him will be in for lots of sh**
Nothing is forever, the fight goes on and continues. Simple as you are, you have shallow to go with it. Unless you'll just bend over when someone tell you to, everyone is a rebel. Before you talk about vision, live your life and live it with dignity.
SDP supporters are brainwashed by their can-never-make-it Chee who usurped poor Mr Chiam.
thats what i heard from my sources too. but cannot confirm. anyway when CST was forced out of SDP by CSJ, some people said CST will join pap and even came out in the controlled media. is it true GD? is it true that pap got intention to absorb CST when he was kicked out of SDP by CSJ??? u got any insider info on this?
Chiam build a great party only for Chee to demonise it.
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