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CPF minimum sum to be revised upwards to S$131,000

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SINGAPORE: From July, the prevailing CPF minimum sum (MS) will be revised upwards to S$131,000, up from S$123,000. The CPF Board said the new MS will apply to members who turn 55 from July 1 2011 to June 30 2012.

It was announced in August 2003, that the minimum sum would be raised gradually to reach S$120,000 (in 2003 dollars) in 2013.

CPF Board said the increase in minimum sum, which includes an adjustment for inflation, is to ensure that Singaporeans set aside sufficient savings for their retirement.

Members who can set aside the MS fully in cash can apply to commence their monthly payouts of S$1,170 when they reach their draw down age.

Also from July, the Medisave Minimum Sum (MMS) will be raised to S$36,000 from S$34,500.

Members will be able to withdraw their Medisave savings in excess of the MMS at or after age 55.

The maximum balance a member may have in his Medisave Account, known as the Medisave Contribution Ceiling (MCC), is fixed at S$5,000 above MMS and this would be increased correspondingly to S$41,000, from S$39,500.

Any Medisave contribution in excess of the prevailing MCC will be transferred to the member's Special Account if he is below age 55 or to his Retirement Account if he is above age 55 and has a MS shortfall.

The revisions to MMS and MCC are to ensure that Singaporeans have sufficient savings to meet their healthcare expenses, and have been adjusted for inflation.

-CNA/ac
 
well done, parliament not opened yet and biz starts as usual.
 
This time the raise is 6.5 percent. Let us say you start working now for 35 years. In 35 years time, your minimum sum is 8000*35+123000=SGD 403000. Your MRA, if they are nice will be 27500+34*2500= 112500. You make 2400/mth and stay that way for 35 years with no unemployment (haha). Weighting the CPF contribution rates and interests, you get 3.03 percent (rounded up. I ignore 60K 1%thingy as the bond float will cancel it out soon). So, you make $621,771.02 and if you minus out the two other sums, you get 106271SGD. But wait, what about the house? You marry now and buy a 250K HDB, and you and your wife pay the 5 percent down payment and split the loan in between for 30 years at 2.6 percent. You pay for your part, SGD172485.41 and you find you are -SGD66214.41 for you CPF. So you cannot withdraw but pledge the hdb! So tell me what to withdraw?
 
Tharman already spent the money to buy vote so his drawer is quite empty. Jinx just burnt yet another big hole. This sort of problem you can not hide nor dodge, the pains will be felt by the citizens directly.
 
Essentially, it means we will never be able to set enough for the minimum sum. We are screwed from birth to death.
 
another proof, CPF is but a ponzi game.................can't pay out so play delaying game:D
 
cpf is machiam loch ness monster. hear before but never see before with your own eyes
 
cpf is machiam loch ness monster. hear before but never see before with your own eyes

Can also be described as a mirage. From far can see a little, come nearer bloody thing disappear. Knnbccb.
 
This is a good move.
I am not sure what we are complaining about - housing, transport yes.
But the minimum sum actually helps people who cant save or take risks with their CPF $$ after 55.

Talk to any financial expert and he or she will say that our CPF model follows closely current thinking of how best to save for retirement.

Many countries would like to follow us but can't because although they know that it is know, politically they cant act on it.
 
This is a good move.
I am not sure what we are complaining about - housing, transport yes.
But the minimum sum actually helps people who cant save or take risks with their CPF $$ after 55.

Talk to any financial expert and he or she will say that our CPF model follows closely current thinking of how best to save for retirement.

Many countries would like to follow us but can't because although they know that it is know, politically they cant act on it.

Just a thought, the mindset differs between the old and young.
Our population has more old than young now and this affects the old.
 
Minimum Sum increased because of this? Timing is very chun ah. Everytime they make a mistake , we pay for them.



TERMASICK Lose Big Money AGAIN. CCB! Why Can't This Money Go HELP The OLD n POOR



REALLY SICK FEELING ON HEARING THIS TYPE OF NEWS.




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The Irish Times - Monday, May 30, 2011Inscrutable owners now facing pressure to make call on Eircom

BUSINESS OPINION: An injection of about €400m is needed – STT have to figure out if they would ever get it back
PRESSURE IS starting to mount on STT to decide what it is going to do about Eircom.
The Singapore-based group – which is owned by the city-states sovereign wealth fund Temasek – has been a model of eastern inscrutability since taking control of the national phone network at the start of last year.
___________They paid a mere €140 million for the company, but it came with an unsustainable debt mountain of €3.75 billion.[/SIZE]
For the last year the Singaporeans have been sitting on the sidelines weighing up whether they want to roll up their sleeves and follow their €140 million with however much more money it is going to take to sort out Eircom.
The figure put on the amount of equity that needs to go into the company is about €400 million and, presumably, the question STT is trying to figure out is whether they will ever get it back.
One of the things they have been watching is how chief executive Paul Donovan has been getting on with his cost-cutting plans. The most recent advance on that front has been a deal that will see staff take a 10 per cent pay cut. Some 1,000 jobs are to go over the next two years.
The other variable which no doubt will be watched by STT is the performance of the Irish economy given the pretty direct link between economic activity and telecoms traffic.
There does appear to be a consensus that the economy will return to growth next year, albeit based on a two-speed economy.
The last consideration, and the one that has now come into very sharp focus, is when is the best time to move when it comes to trying to strike a deal with the company’s bondholders.
It would appear that time is running out in this regard, with management conceding on Friday that it may breach its financial covenants within three months. This would point to a deal sooner rather than later.
Donovan is clearly keen to get the job done, arguing on Friday that it “is imperative that we accelerate the discussions with our lenders and shareholders about how we manage a potential breach.
“We will need to put the company on a sustainable footing with regard to a future financial structure and that includes the amount of debt that we have on our balance sheet and the terms of that debt.”
The senior creditors also seem ready to go with advisory firm Houlihan Lokey signed up to represent them. Eircom has also got tooled up, engaging investment banks Gleacher Shacklock and JP Morgan, and law firm Linklaters to represent it in talks.
However, it might be rash to discount the possibility of STT playing for a little bit more time by just dribbling extra capital into Eircom to allow it avoid a breach of its bank covenants. Although some debt is due for repayment in June, the first really big tranche – of €1.2 billion – does not fall due until 2014.
Bank of America Merrill Lynch estimate about €25 million should do the trick and keep the company out of default until the end of the year. It must be tempting. The uncertainty about STT’s commitment has certainly helped Donovan drive through his cost-cutting and will ensure that they take hold.
Likewise the prospects for the economy should be a deal clearer come the end of the year.
The downside is that the longer STT prevaricates the worse the trading position at Eircom becomes. The latest set of figures indicate the difficulties the company is facing.
Group revenues fell 11 per cent to €407 million in the first quarter while adjusted Ebitda – earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation – fell 6 per cent to €170 million.
Fixed-line revenues fell by 6 per cent while its mobile sales were 11 per cent lower.
The company shed 21,000 mobile customers in the nine months to end the period with 1.04 million subscribers.
The other problem facing Eircom is that its competitors – and NTL in particular – are currently investing in infrastructure and stealing a march on it, particularly in cable.
The worse the trading position the more likely the bondholders are to agree to a bigger haircut in the inevitable restructuring.
But, by the same token, there comes a point when so much damage will be done to the company and its prospects by the stand-off that it becomes counter-productive.
On balance it looks as though STT will bite the bullet sometime over the next three months but there is quite a game to be played out first.




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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt" id="msgtxt_2">Bro, thx for the info... if you come across any news about Temasek Holdings boo boo (which I'm sure SPH will not bother to report)... email me ([email protected])
I'll make sure TR gets it... :)

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Its the people's money!
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Long suspected that our CPF has been looted: the majority squandered & lost on some get rich scheme, some pocketed by our honest representatives.

Madoffs ponzi scheme fell apart when too many people asked for their money$$$
We won't know how bad the CPF situation is until the majority of Sporeans vote for the opposition. Hope Sporeans are ready for a shock otherwise there'll be an increase in MRT & jumping incidents :rolleyes:
 
:mad:i think that's really too little. they should add another 0 and make it $1,310,000 since they are not sincere to return our cpf savings willingly when we hit 55yo, then might as well put the figures very much higher and make sure lesser cpf members would get their savings back when they are alive. and when they are dead, they confiscate it or convert the savings into cpf's trustees, then the dependents would be lan lan n don't get a cents without engaging legal help.

it's a big big puzzle why cpf is making every sgporeans to get back their meagre savings. cpf seems to be unwilling to release savings back to retirees. why is this so? what's the original them of compulsory savings in CPF? to end up in the gov's pockets in the end is it??
 
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CPF should post their basis of minimum sum for all of us to see. It is our money. Just posting a figure with explaining their calculations to us is not transparent nor responsible.

CPF must explain their basis for 131k minimum sum. And we reserve the right to query their calculations. Appreciate someone can send this to Tan Kin Lian etc who knows numbers very well to help us comment.
 
Assuming U work 35 years, no increment over the 35 years and just the amount in your Special account alone(U can't touch it anyway). If U have a monthly income of $2700(works out to about $150 to special account * 12 mths * 4% interest), U will already be able to reach the minimum sum after 35 years. That doesn't even include ordinary account and whatever extra money that comes in via Bonuses. And U seriously think you won't get any increment for 35 years meh?
 
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