Coronavirus: Sweden's Tegnell admits too many died

[sweetiepie]

The stats are available to everyone at https://www.gov.sg/features/covid-19

24 deaths, 5 in critical condition with more than 35,000 cases confirmed. That's less than 0.07% case mortality rate.

KNN have to take note of
1. The stats is a result of lockdown KNN
2. The 35k confirmed cases in reality is only 1k+ so the mortality is not 0.07% KNN
3. You cannot compare with flu becas for covid19 the infection rate is way higher KNN

 

[vamjok]

KNN have to take note of
1. The stats is a result of lockdown KNN
2. The 35k confirmed cases in reality is only 1k+ so the mortality is not 0.07% KNN
3. You cannot compare with flu becas for covid19 the infection rate is way higher KNN

we all tried for months explaining it to him he don't want to listen and failed. lol....

i stop trying cos it makes me sound like a parrot

 

[Leongsam]

KNN have to take note of
1. The stats is a result of lockdown KNN
2. The 35k confirmed cases in reality is only 1k+ so the mortality is not 0.07% KNN
3. You cannot compare with flu becas for covid19 the infection rate is way higher KNN

What is the flu infection rate vs the covid infection rate? Please provide data.

Lockdowns don't change mortality rates. They are supposed to reduce the number of cases.

Why is the 35k actually only 1k?

 

[Leongsam]

we all tried for months explaining it to him he don't want to listen and failed. lol....

i stop trying cos it makes me sound like a parrot

There is no need to explain. Just give me the data and I can work out the sums.

 

[vamjok]

There is no need to explain. Just give me the data and I can work out the sums.

Its ok. i give up bro. lol

 

[Leongsam]

Its ok. i give up bro. lol

You give up because you don't have data. On the other hand I look at nothing but data and ignore all the articles that try to add a political spin to what is actually nothing more than science.

 

[mojito]

TS, too many died but still the correct choice he said. You take his words out of context.

 

[sweetiepie]

What is the flu infection rate vs the covid infection rate? Please provide data.

Lockdowns don't change mortality rates. They are supposed to reduce the number of cases.

Why is the 35k actually only 1k?

KNN my uncle think don't really leequire hard data for comparison with flu becas
1. Those website you got the data might not be accurate KNN
2. Scientist already proven and stated that covid19 infection rate is much more fierce than flu KNN
3. You never get to see many flu patients concurrently being sent to ICU KNN

Assuming pap declaration is genuine community cases is at 1k+ while the rest are from the fw dorm which already been isolated hence the fatality rate should exclude the 35k in the computation becas they no nonger form the risk lumbers KNN

 

[Leongsam]

KNN my uncle think don't really require hard data for comparison with flu becas
1. Those website you got the data might not be accurate KNN
2. Scientist already proven and stated that covid19 infection rate is much more fierce than flu KNN
3. You never get to see many flu patients concurrently being sent to ICU KNN

Assuming pap declaration is genuine community cases is at 1k+ while the rest are from the fw dorm which already been isolated hence the fatality rate shpuld exclude the 35k KNN

There are 5 patients in ICU in Singapore. That is hardly a large number.

There is absolutely no logic to not including the dorms. They may be isolated but that does not change statistics. If you take away the 1k community cases you have 34,000 positive cases amongst the dorm dwellers.

Out of the 34,000 how many are in ICU and how many have died? Give me the numbers. From these numbers we can work out the mortality rate in the dorm community. They are humans too so there is no reason why the numbers should be discounted from the overall data.

 

[zhihau]

0.4% Economic Growth, OK???

Gold standards when other economies are in the reds

 

[syed putra]

Out of the 34,000 how many are in ICU and how many have died? Give me the numbers. From these numbers we can work out the mortality rate in the dorm community. They are humans too so there is no reason why the numbers should be discounted from the overall data.

We know something is not right when we have a lab full or foreign workers infected but Nobody from WHO bothered to conduct a study.

 

[sweetiepie]

There is absolutely no logic to not including the dorms. They may be isolated but that does not change statistics

KNN my uncle only agree up to a min extend KNN becas
1. Those 34k fw are all very young and fit else they won't be able to do their jobs KNN
2. Since they have been lockup quite sometime back KNN once lockup is as good as invisible statistics I.e they won't proceed to infect the community so the statistic will have difference KNN

Also now you have 5 but previously there were 20+ in icu KNN my uncle don't think flu have so many lying in icu bed KNN

 

[Leongsam]

We know something is not right when we have a lab full or foreign workers infected but Nobody from WHO bothered to conduct a study.

This is a perfect case study of what happens when Covid-19 spreads in a relatively healthy community living in close quarters. It would provide an excellent blueprint as to how to manage Covid-19 in the future. I'm surprised as you are as to why the data is being suppressed. My suspicion is that the data does not suit a political agenda somewhere.

 

[Leongsam]

KNN my uncle only agree up to a min extend KNN becas
1. Those 34k fw are all very young and fit else they won't be able to do their jobs KNN
2. Since they have been lockup quite sometime back KNN once lockup is as good as invisible statistics I.e they won't proceed to infect the community so the statistic will have difference KNN

Also now you have 5 but previously there were 20+ in icu KNN my uncle don't think flu have so many lying in icu bed KNN

So you are admitting that for the younger and fitter members of society covid-19 is relatively minor. In that case why lock down the whole country and put hundreds and thousands of the younger generation out of work and into financial strife?

And you are still not making sense with your so called logic regarding the dorm workers. They may not be infecting the community because they are isolated but they are obviously infecting each other in large numbers. The 34,000 or so is only the tip of the iceberg. There are at least another 60,000 out there who are positive but have not been tested yet.

 

[sweetiepie]

So you are admitting that for the younger and fitter members of society covid-19 is relatively minor. In that case why lock down the whole country and put hundreds and thousands of the younger generation out of work and into financial strife?

And you are still not making sense with your so called logic regarding the dorm workers. They may not be infecting the community because they are isolated but they are obviously infecting each other in large numbers. The 34,000 or so is only the tip of the iceberg. There are at least another 60,000 out there who are positive but have not been tested yet.

KNN my uncle has never denied the young and fit patients will be less serious KNN but don't forget most sinkies even the young are less fit than the fw KNN yes they are infecting each others but they are all young and fit so this large lumbers is not supposed to be used in the computation of the real lumbers you will get when the virus is populated in sinkieland KNN I.e fw statistic is not a good measurement when being applied in the whole community KNN

 

[sweetiepie]

So you are admitting that for the younger and fitter members of society covid-19 is relatively minor. In that case why lock down the whole country and put hundreds and thousands of the younger generation out of work and into financial strife?

And you are still not making sense with your so called logic regarding the dorm workers. They may not be infecting the community because they are isolated but they are obviously infecting each other in large numbers. The 34,000 or so is only the tip of the iceberg. There are at least another 60,000 out there who are positive but have not been tested yet.

KNN my uncle also know pap want to aim for high testing confirm cases with lowest fatality rate so using the fw to achieve this will be excellent KNN my uncle think you also towards this goal KNN

 

[sweetiepie]

And you are still not making sense with your so called logic regarding the dorm workers

In other words your argument is only fair if the 34k fw age and health status is the average age and health status of the community KNN

 

[Leongsam]

In other words your argument is only fair if the 34k fw age and health status is the average age and health status of the community KNN

As is the case with all diseases there always variations across age groups, ethnicities and cultures. Based on the stats more resources are allocated to those at greater risk. There is nothing novel in this approach. It has been done for decades.

Just look at the vast differences by age group in one of the worst hit nations viz Italy.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105061/coronavirus-deaths-by-region-in-italy/

It is pretty obvious that there is no need to treat those under 40 the same way as those in their 80s. It's just plain common sense to target efforts based upon risk factors.

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Sam is right unless we have a vaccine inevitable every country will go through herd immunity...some of us may have years of savings to afford a lockdown of 24 months but most of us dont...

 

[Peiweh]