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COMMENT: The furore over ministerial pay is gaining currency again

Let's set a cap of $3k per month for MPs. Hire a bunch of taxi/grab drivers. Let's see this whole country go to shit.

Now don't get me wrong. There is no illusion these ministers are super talented, but surely u guys understand the notion of pay peanuts get monkeys.
Surely you understand what a straw man argument is.
 
First generation PAP old guards did not work for money nor are they high in society, for example, Fong Swee Suan was a ticket seller at the bus company and Othman Wok was a clerk.

And back in those days, policemen also wore shorts.

Time to move on instead of living in the past.

The hard truth is that if you pay politicians poorly, most of them will end up corrupt, like what you see in every single asiatic and nigger country. Haven't you been shaken down by jiuhu traffic police on bogus speeding charges? They will make it all go away for some 'kopi money'. It's worse in indonesia.

Ah Gong did the painful but pragmatic thing to raise our local politicians' pay to a suitable level. If you can't deal with it, you are free to vote for the other side or leave Singapore. Maybe some of you need a dose of really bad corrupt foreign government to appreciate life here.
 
This one is my favourite. :D

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And back in those days, policemen also wore shorts.

Time to move on instead of living in the past.

The hard truth is that if you pay politicians poorly, most of them will end up corrupt, like what you see in every single asiatic and nigger country. Haven't you been shaken down by jiuhu traffic police on bogus speeding charges? They will make it all go away for some 'kopi money'. It's worse in indonesia.

Ah Gong did the painful but pragmatic thing to raise our local politicians' pay to a suitable level. If you can't deal with it, you are free to vote for the other side or leave Singapore. Maybe some of you need a dose of really bad corrupt foreign government to appreciate life here.

So LKY did visualise a potentially corrupt LHL? Father knows best.
The only conclusion that many Singaporeans are drawing is that the present PAP LEEders are doing it for the money. The present LEEders would not want to serve the people and country if the money weren't ENOUGH.

As evident from the sharing made by the daughter of a former PAP minister, there are many talented politicians and leaders who are/were genuinely sincere in wanting to serve the people and country. Please do not degrade your own PAP leaders. Your line of thinking is not reflective of the politicians and leaders of other parties and COUNTRIES. Insensitive statements can be dangerous and do reflect poorly on the self.

I sincerely hope that this matter will be taken up as a national issue at the next General Election. This is no point in harping on it now as the claim of mandate was rammed down the throat of all Singaporeans. Keep your ammunition to fight another day. Spicy Food for Thought.
 



This joker is worth the $m and is above mediocre ?

Ask him try getting a job elsewhere without the balls carrying of LKY.
send that cocksucker to any private firm for a job that pays S$1million a year for an interview. don't think he will make it past the first interview
 
Just pay them what they want....why grumble, complain, grovel??? The 70% will 100% approve....what you gonna do?
 
After ruling for 50+ years, these MIWs are unable to even get Sinkies to do "national service" at the higher? Why?

Because rot starts at the top - when the first question they ask during the tea party is "when can I become minister"?

Not very different during job invterviews with graduates and MBAs - when can I become a Director?

Wooden may be testing the grounds before they decide to raise the issue of upping their salaries again. Afterall, they
claimed that they put on hold any increases a few years ago.
 
The hard truth is that if you pay politicians poorly, most of them will end up corrupt, like what you see in every single asiatic and nigger country.

The fallacy of this statement is the assumption that a corruptible person can be satisfied with a reasonable ransom. Either you are dumb enough to believe this or too corrupted to correct the statement. The fact is that if a person can be bought, it will just take more (a lot more) for that person to be bought over. That why the PAP has stopped using anti-corruption as a reason for higher pay.

Try to buy yourself out in China now and see what happens. You will get arrested immediately. This is not because Chinese officials are well paid but because

1. They are proud of their country and their leader
2. They are afraid of the harsh punishment that follows if they are caught

Today, our politicians are more prone to corruption than ever because they felt they are underpaid for their genius and there are too many examples of people who gets away with it because membership has its privileges.
 
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If Woody is right...then the SAF are paying these paper Generals $m in the first place?

How above mediocre can you be if you are in an institution where you never had to use your expertise eg warfare and come back with the experience to show for and be graded too.

A peaceful army is a useless army.
 
The fallacy of this statement the assumption that a corruptible person can be satisfied with a reasonable ransom. Either you are dumb enough to believe this or too corrupted to correct the statement. The fact is that if a person can be bought, it will just take more (a lot more) for that person to be bought over. That why the PAP has stopped using anti-corruption as a reason for higher pay.

Try to buy yourself out in China now and see what happens. You will get arrested immediately. This is not because Chinese officials are well paid but because

1. They are proud of their country and their leader
2. They are afraid of the harsh punishment that follows if they are caught

Today, our politicians are more prone to corruption than ever because they felt they are unpaid and they know they will get away with it because membership has its privileges.
 
send that cocksucker to any private firm for a job that pays S$1million a year for an interview. don't think he will make it past the first interview

Don't think he can even make it past the application form.
 
The theory that high pay discourages corruption is true only to a certain extent and dependent on individuals right?

If u hired Jho Low the fat bastard who bought a plane, boat, properties etc, even if u pay the fucker 300% above market rate, he will still be corrupt.
 
The fallacy of this statement is the assumption that a corruptible person can be satisfied with a reasonable ransom. Either you are dumb enough to believe this or too corrupted to correct the statement.

People who demand politicians take a very low pay and stay clean are the ones who are dumb. They have totally no idea how the world works and they should stay the fuck out of everyone's way.

Try to buy yourself out in China now and see what happens. You will get arrested immediately. This is not because Chinese officials are well paid but because

1. They are proud of their country and their leader
2. They are afraid of the harsh punishment that follows if they are caught

It's a well-known fact that most of the chink politicians and civil service is corrupt. Xi Jinping has arrested tens of thousands of corrupted officials, but yet, there are still many more to be caught.

In Singapore, we use both the carrot and the stick to keep corruption at bay. Politicians and civil servants are well paid enough to not risk their jobs to get caught by a dedicated anti-corruption unit that reports directly to the Prime Minister. It has worked well for Singapore, and you are incredibly stupid for wanting to destroy this system in exchange for one that encourages lowly paid officials to take bribes.
 
People who demand politicians take a very low pay and stay clean are the ones who are dumb. They have totally no idea how the world works and they should stay the fuck out of everyone's way.

Like I said, you are either incredibly dumb or too corrupt to believe that high pay will eradicate corruption.
 
Like I said, you are either incredibly dumb or too corrupt to believe that high pay will eradicate corruption.

High pay, with tough enforcement against corruption, will reduce corruption to a low level. There's no way to eradicate corruption, and that has never been the aim.

Low pay, on the other hand, guarantees high levels of corruption.
 
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