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Contracts: 'It's about quality, not cost'
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THE outcry by Tampines North residents over standards of cleanliness in their housing estates has led labour chief Lim Swee Say to take issue with the way town councils award contracts.

He said their complaints proved the labour movement's tenet of emphasising quality over cost.

If town council cleaning contracts are awarded to the lowest bidder rather than the best, 'nobody wins', he argued yesterday at a National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) event on how to help low-wage workers.

Mr Lim brought up the case of the sloppy cleaners to defend the NTUC's approach to improving the lot of low-wage workers, which emphasises cooperation and negotiation with employers.

'In case you have any doubt, the simple truth is this: That particular zone did not award the cleaning contract on the basis of best-sourcing,' he said, referring to the practice of hiring contractors who can provide high-quality - not the cheapest - service.

'This tells us that our message on best-sourcing will be rewarded. Those with the bad habit of cheap-sourcing will be penalised.'

But according to Tampines North MP Ong Kian Min, this is an inaccurate interpretation.

Contacted by The Straits Times, he acknowledged the cleaning contractor had submitted the lowest bid. But he disputed that cost was the reason the firm was awarded the contract.

'It is one factor, but we also look at track record, resources, financial capability and other factors.'

He said that although the contractor had no experience in HDB estate work, 'we chose to give them a chance as they have a strong record in cleaning industrial and commercial buildings'.

However, the lack of experience meant workers took longer to clean the estates, and labour shortage, as the economy rebounded this year, also caused problems, Mr Ong said.

'In hindsight, it's easy to allege that this happened because you gave the contract to the lowest bidder. But even if you do not, it's no guarantee that you will not fail,' he said, adding that Tampines North contracts had been awarded to the lowest bidder in previous instances with no adverse consequences.

Mr Lim argued that 'cheap-sourcing' depresses wages, hence asking employers to avoid going for the low-cost option will help workers in the long run.

He said the labour movement can use strategies like 'best-sourcing' to better the lot of the rank and file, rather than pressing for a minimum wage, because of its close ties with employers and the Government.

Mr Lim made the point in response to a unionist who had asked why NTUC was against minimum wage when unions in other countries typically call for one.

NTUC could not promote skills upgrading if there were no resources such as the Workforce Development Agency to provide a training framework, or if the Government did not commit to giving Workfare Income Supplement for low-wage workers, he said.

'Many labour movements are not in the position to push for minimum skill because they do not have the tripartite partnership,' Mr Lim said, referring to cooperation between the unions, the Government and employers.

'It's important that we recognise our strengths,' he summed up. 'We can tackle this problem of low-wage workers in a uniquely Singapore way.'

RACHEL CHANG
 
... 'In case you have any doubt, the simple truth is this: That particular zone did not award the cleaning contract on the basis of best-sourcing,' he said, referring to the practice of hiring contractors who can provide high-quality - not the cheapest - service. ...
ppl provide chippest servis bcos ppl got ft who r chippa, betta n fasta, u twit ... :oIo:
 
>'It's important that we recognise our strengths,' he summed up. 'We can tackle this problem of low-wage workers in a uniquely Singapore way.'>

Is he saying that we are paying him obscene salary in an UNIQUE way also, for quality doesn't come cheap, what sort of UNIQUE qualities he has?, besides singing "hokkien song based" off key, & crying at The People's Republic of China, women??

To tackle the low wage problem is allow the employers to bring in much more cheaper labours...that not only benefit the employers in terms of cost but a huge revenue source for the government.

That is why, they 'skip the light fandago' over the "minimum wage" & keep throwing smoke screen.

SINgapore workers should examine carefully, these kind of unique clowns we are getting...your vote is not only your meal on the table today but for tomorrow & also your children tomorrow...vote wisely!;)
 
Pay PAP minister highest

Get lowest tender ..

This is what you get.. You get what you vote for..
 
Pay PAP minister highest

Get lowest tender ..

This is what you get.. You get what you vote for..

Then the backsides of the 66.6% gets so tender...but they are LOVING IT!:D
 
I think we are not getting value for our money as evidenced by the huge surpluses at TC.
 
Singapore is the only place in the world where TCs gamble their surpluses on shoddy investments. That's not all. The returns or losses are known only to themselves after that. For the residents, all they need to know is to be reminded to pay their conservancy fees on time. If you don't pay on time, they'll haul you to court.
 
Contracts: 'It's about quality, not cost'
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oTICXL0V4bA/TFbFLo9t3EI/AAAAAAAABrw/Jg0qeC53zmI/s1600/say.my.jpg

THE outcry by Tampines North residents over standards of cleanliness in their housing estates has led labour chief Lim Swee Say to take issue with the way town councils award contracts.

He said their complaints proved the labour movement's tenet of emphasising quality over cost.

If town council cleaning contracts are awarded to the lowest bidder rather than the best, 'nobody wins', he argued yesterday at a National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) event on how to help low-wage workers.

Mr Lim brought up the case of the sloppy cleaners to defend the NTUC's approach to improving the lot of low-wage workers, which emphasises cooperation and negotiation with employers.

'In case you have any doubt, the simple truth is this: That particular zone did not award the cleaning contract on the basis of best-sourcing,' he said, referring to the practice of hiring contractors who can provide high-quality - not the cheapest - service.

'This tells us that our message on best-sourcing will be rewarded. Those with the bad habit of cheap-sourcing will be penalised.'

But according to Tampines North MP Ong Kian Min, this is an inaccurate interpretation.

Contacted by The Straits Times, he acknowledged the cleaning contractor had submitted the lowest bid. But he disputed that cost was the reason the firm was awarded the contract.

'It is one factor, but we also look at track record, resources, financial capability and other factors.'

He said that although the contractor had no experience in HDB estate work, 'we chose to give them a chance as they have a strong record in cleaning industrial and commercial buildings'.

However, the lack of experience meant workers took longer to clean the estates, and labour shortage, as the economy rebounded this year, also caused problems, Mr Ong said.

'In hindsight, it's easy to allege that this happened because you gave the contract to the lowest bidder. But even if you do not, it's no guarantee that you will not fail,' he said, adding that Tampines North contracts had been awarded to the lowest bidder in previous instances with no adverse consequences.

Mr Lim argued that 'cheap-sourcing' depresses wages, hence asking employers to avoid going for the low-cost option will help workers in the long run.

He said the labour movement can use strategies like 'best-sourcing' to better the lot of the rank and file, rather than pressing for a minimum wage, because of its close ties with employers and the Government.

Mr Lim made the point in response to a unionist who had asked why NTUC was against minimum wage when unions in other countries typically call for one.

NTUC could not promote skills upgrading if there were no resources such as the Workforce Development Agency to provide a training framework, or if the Government did not commit to giving Workfare Income Supplement for low-wage workers, he said.

'Many labour movements are not in the position to push for minimum skill because they do not have the tripartite partnership,' Mr Lim said, referring to cooperation between the unions, the Government and employers.

'It's important that we recognise our strengths,' he summed up. 'We can tackle this problem of low-wage workers in a uniquely Singapore way.'

RACHEL CHANG


hi there


1. aiyoh! damn funny man!
2. a monkey talking about or to another monkey.
3. erh! zorro blah another sheep or what.
 
The ones who are awarded contracts are usually the CONNECTED. Connected means, RC, CCC members or their relatives. Or supporters of that GRC.

The list of RC and CCC members, appointment holders or not, are filled with the nation's leading businessmen, SME bosses and small towkays. Even Chua Tian Poh of Ho Bee and Arthur Tay of SUTL are involved. The former at Bishan, the latter at Holland. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

When you scan the obituaries column, you will be stunned to witness names of prominent businessmen involved in the grassroots when a member of that grassroot passed on. Look at the BBMs and PBMs. Stunning. Altruistic reasons for getting involved? For some maybe. Cant be the majority. They simply make donations here and there.

When the PRC meimei was recently found dead (drowned) at a Sentosa bungalow, the press did not mention the father of the owner of that bungalow. Were they directed not to?

Interesting to monitor how this case will close with a Coroner's Inquiry. What's the cause of death? Was the owner of the bungalow properly investigated and blood-tested for consumption of drugs? Did he leave for Japan? Is he coming home for the Inquiry?
 
Those eligible for the contract or contractors should be made publicly .

Their companies should be announced so we can scrutinize them .



Obviously with super scale , you have no problem paying the toppings .
 
However, the lack of experience meant workers took longer to clean the estates, and labour shortage, as the economy rebounded this year, also caused problems, Mr Ong said.

Come on, give me a break, what labout shortage are you talking about when the PAP allows you to mass import foreign workers? Besides, you hire mainly foreigners on Work Permit. Can work permit holders hop jobs? This just doesn't make sense at all, Mr. Ong, care to elaborate?
 
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