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Chiobu Today reporter: Former Civil Service high-flier says Government has lost way

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Reducing the student/teacher ratio by half isn't going to do a damned thing for young minds. An idiot is an idiot whether the ratio is 40:1 or 1:1.

Smart people don't even need teachers. I was hardly ever in class during my school days as I was heavily involved in ECA. However, my grades did not suffer one iota. I simply went home, read the relevant chapters and did the homework. In fact, I did twice the amount of homework without being asked.

When I was young, I never attended school because my family was too poor. I was wandering the filthy streets until the age of 15, when a catholic sister took me under her wing and tutored me in all subjects. Within a week I learnt how to read and spell. It opened the door of the magical world of maths and science to me. The next year I was instantly enrolledinto college based on my straight A1 scores. Not satisfied, I took on extra curricular projects like implementing micro loans for farmers in 3rd world countries. At university, I debated against representatives from top regional universities and won the best speaker award. Those were really the crazy days. I still remember in the middle of my Everest expedition, I performed an open heart surgery on the sherpa guide when he suffered a massive massive coronary. When I decided medicine was not my calling, I read all the business books available and, in a single semester, graduated in commerce with honours.

My 4th company just went IPO and I am a scratch golfer. In fact, I am piloting my Cessna to Sarawak tomorrow for a game with my good friends Camilo villegas and Lance armstrong. After that we will be attending Prince william's stag party.
 
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My 4th company just went IPO and I am a scratch golfer. In fact, I am piloting my Cessna to Sarawak tomorrow for a game with my good friends Camilo villegas and Lance armstrong. After that we will be attending Prince william's stag party.

Started off well but ended up being too far fetched to be humorous.

My advice is to avoid Catholics. They're nothing but trouble.
 

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Started off well but ended up being too far fetched to be humorous.

My advice is to avoid Catholics. They're nothing but trouble.

Why do you say so?

Please tell us more

:biggrin:
 

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Reducing the student/teacher ratio by half isn't going to do a damned thing for young minds. An idiot is an idiot whether the ratio is 40:1 or 1:1.

Smart people don't even need teachers. I was hardly ever in class during my school days as I was heavily involved in ECA. However, my grades did not suffer one iota. I simply went home, read the relevant chapters and did the homework. In fact, I did twice the amount of homework without being asked.

Your point is about individuals, whereas halving the ratio allows the educator to spend more time teaching the class and monitoring their progress. Overall, students will do better as the teacher can focus more on their weaknesses. The advantages outweighs the increase in cost and Singapore can well afford it. Rather than investing in goods and services that promote social ills, the future of Singapore rests on the shoulders of those that comes after, not on the present generation. The outcome of having less students per class is intangible but across the board, we will have a better educated society that will stand us in good stead. It is not about an individual's genes and iq, but for the good of all.
 

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whereas halving the ratio allows the educator to spend more time teaching the class and monitoring their progress. Overall, students will do better as the teacher can focus more on their weaknesses. The advantages outweighs the increase in cost and Singapore can well afford it.

In NZ, the student to teacher ratio is half that of Singapore and the country has an even higher percentage of idiots. Pop over and see for yourself if you don't believe me.

The fact remains that idiots are idiots because they lack the brain capacity to be anything else. Assigning a whole battalion of teachers to one idiot isn't going to turn an idiot into anything better. Once an idiot... always an idiot.
 

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The guy's an idiot. Creating 30,000 teaching jobs does nothing to attract foreign revenue into the economy. All it does is increase the cost of education with the additional money coming from YOU the taxpayer.

On the other hand, the casinos attract billions in foreign revenue every year. The money is injected into the the Singapore economy to the benefit of the whole country.

Tourists who come to Singapore to gamble don't just throw all their money at the tables. They take taxis, eat at restaurants and food courts, buy stuff at shops and perhaps screw a whore or two. All this activity has an immense multiplier effect which ultimately benefits every Singaporean who is smart enough to recognise the opportunities created and who takes steps to gain a slice of the pie.

Opposition parties should test their candidates to establish whether they have a basic understanding of economics before they are let loose to make a fool of themselves.

Singapore has a well established a tourism industry for decades & The casino is the cause for establishing the Tourism Industry but for a very long way back, even before independence, it because of tax goods.

Singapore cannot attract world class talents no matter what ever policies they made. So, they might as well attract the world class crooks.

Of this 30,000 jobs..... how many are given to Singaporeans?

I am not against the casino as it already here already. There are other matters to talk about. No point talking about things that already being implemented & trying to expose the bad points or effects of making such mistakes.

Bad investment is not common in the present government, remember Shin Corp shares... so it is no point, what is worse is the head behind this bad judgements are still remaining in their position/s.

What the opposition is trying to tell is how a large spending like 10 billion can be used for a better purposes that are more rewarding in nation building. Are we going to produce world class poker players?
 

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What the opposition is trying to tell is how a large spending like 10 billion can be used for a better purposes that are more rewarding in nation building. Are we going to produce world class poker players?

The casino wasn't built for Singaporeans. It was built to generate foreign revenue via tourist arrivals so that the whole country would benefit from the multiplier effect with most not having to go anywhere near a gambling floor.

In the old days, assembling disk drives for Seagate did the job and provided direct employment for 15,000 people and generated thousands of more jobs via the support industries that emerged from the disk drive boom.

Those days are long gone. Unless Singaporeans are willing to work for the same wages as a PRC operator, they're never going to come back.

So many people criticise the the casino decision but what other industry Singapore can invest in that will provide the same kind of returns? It's all very well to heckle from the sidelines but ask any opposition party whether they'll shut the gambling portions of the IRs if they gain power and I guarantee you that they'll be lying if they say yes.

The casinos aren't a 10 billion expenditure. They're a 10 billion investment. The way things are going, whoever fronted up with the money is going to make a killing to the benefit of all Singaporeans.
 

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There is that Ngiam fella, now suddenly very vocal - is there a surprise coming?

Have not heard Ngiam for a long long time. He used to be Goh Keng Swee close Aide. Unfortunately PAP was too indulge in their own luxury politics that they treated him like a small voice in the wilderness.

I hope he stand up to say something before polling day since now opposition parties are much stronger than in the past.
 

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35ooo jobs in casino?how many locals??
for all u know majority are pinoy, prc, myanmar, and bangra!
Local ? maybe 10%
Tourists go casino gamble away their hard earn money I don't think so,
tourists are all on budget tour type!
Perhaps lots & lots of Singies and from JB are the big time losers at
casino donating million and ganhman taking the major share of profits!

Look at the local Singies losers and bankrupts in the ST papers each week,
losers who commited suicide can't pay loan shark, or bank loan.
you'll be shock!
 

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the lightning party is smart to lay off their (non familee) old guards at such short notice, just before the GE... this is to ensure that the 3 stooges won't have a chance to prepare & fight back, or in their perspectives "bite the hands that fed them".

soon, the 3 stooges would be asked to leave & retire in some remote country, for fear that they may band up & form a new opposition party in the next GE.

i've a good feeling that the 3 stooges that weren't entirely on the same side of the fence, singing off pitch from the song the lightning party have sung, will eventually lend a hand to those who oppose.

Actually, all old guards will be discarded. This was the practice from the 1970 scholars. So for these people, now is the time to become opposition - you still can continue to make millions and do something useful. Do not tell me the people who used to run the machinery were bad. Then PAP's claims to date are just lies.
 

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There is that Ngiam fella, now suddenly very vocal - is there a surprise coming?

Ngiam Tong Dow, one of the vey few really trusted servant of LKY. My hunch is that Ngiam may be one of those 'talent spotted' to take over from Prataman. He needs to be perceived as a little anti-establishment to appear popular with the populace. Just my guess.
 

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The guy's an idiot. Creating 30,000 teaching jobs does nothing to attract foreign revenue into the economy. All it does is increase the cost of education with the additional money coming from YOU the taxpayer.

On the other hand, the casinos attract billions in foreign revenue every year. The money is injected into the the Singapore economy to the benefit of the whole country.

Totally agree with you, Sam.
 

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Unlikely. Scroobal is too anti Sdp.

could he be the one who is plant by PAP. first he shoot CSM, then now become the SDP ? we all know
about SDP....

Originally Posted by scroobal

Years ago, I was on an interview panel and interestingly an ACS alumnus hinted why he felt for Singapore by mentioning that he voluntered for NS. I asked him what was the consequence if he did not volunteer for NS. Not only his jaw dropped but those of 3 other interview panel members. He then admitted that he did it to retain his PR and to be with his mum and dad. After the conclusion of the interview sessions, all three members asked me to fill them in. I told them that NS is a not charity and why would someone not take up citizenship yet do NS. When I told them that someone who is not eligibile for citizenship cannot do NS even if he paid the Govt, it then made sense. Mind you the 3 were senior civil servants and they too had no clue.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?89550-The-Chen-Show-Mao-Affair&p=700196#post700196
 

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The guy's an idiot. Creating 30,000 teaching jobs does nothing to attract foreign revenue into the economy. All it does is increase the cost of education with the additional money coming from YOU the taxpayer.

His media responses so far suggested that while his credentials are extremely flashy, he has been brainwashed by CSJ doctrines.

It's better for him to stay put with CSJ and lost the battle rather than to move to another alternative party - recall what CSJ did to CST?
 

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Reducing the student/teacher ratio by half isn't going to do a damned thing for young minds. An idiot is an idiot whether the ratio is 40:1 or 1:1.

Haha I was looking from the view point of those poor teachers teaching N-level. Currently, they probably have 3 to 4 students siting in front who are listening during lessons. The rest of the class are busy playing cards, games and sometimes even smoking behind. The advantage of having a big class - the teacher can "act blur". If the ratio is reduced, those poor teachers would have a real hard time pretending that everything is fine.

It goes to show how much our ex-civil-servant understands the ground and the root of the education problem.
 

tioliaohuat

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Could one of these senior service people be Scroobal?

you judge yourself >>>

Originally Posted by scroobal

Years ago, I was on an interview panel and interestingly an ACS alumnus hinted why he felt for Singapore by mentioning that he voluntered for NS. I asked him what was the consequence if he did not volunteer for NS. Not only his jaw dropped but those of 3 other interview panel members. He then admitted that he did it to retain his PR and to be with his mum and dad. After the conclusion of the interview sessions, all three members asked me to fill them in. I told them that NS is a not charity and why would someone not take up citizenship yet do NS. When I told them that someone who is not eligibile for citizenship cannot do NS even if he paid the Govt, it then made sense. Mind you the 3 were senior civil servants and they too had no clue.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.p...196#post700196
 

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The guy's an idiot. Creating 30,000 teaching jobs does nothing to attract foreign revenue into the economy. All it does is increase the cost of education with the additional money coming from YOU the taxpayer.

His media responses so far suggested that while his credentials are extremely flashy, he has been brainwashed by CSJ doctrines.

It's better for him to stay put with CSJ and lost the battle rather than to move to another alternative party - recall what CSJ did to CST?
 

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