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China's Urumqi city in chaos

cowbehcowbu

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Hanism is the precursor to Nazism, National Shintoism and no different from Christian fundamentalism, Islamic fundamentalism or Sikh fundamentalism. Hanism is a hoary myth created for people in the South and West of China are not Han so to speak of. It is a concept of you either with us or against us, mobilized by the ruling and the fed on by the oppressed ruled to escape the realities of misery. Many who have ruled China were
never Han and many ruled in China were never Han. If not careful, the greater worry of the next international scuffle will not be the Nazis, Islamists nor Japanese. Remember China was never one entity tilll after the 2nd World War as a convenience against external treat. One China was a detente and strategy against external powers. The recent incidents have shown China as ugly as any other nation namecalled for being nationalistic. This is a fact and you do not need foreign press to blow it up. Problem is how far will this be let to go unchecked.
History has repeated before. It is just the names, places and time are different
you have the most queer historical views on china..Han is never a single race ..it is a majority 'race' centred around a unified language and cultures..with different variations fromnorth to south ,east to west...a culturaly moulded 'race' as such..everytime a minority race was conquered..this minority slowly assume the much advanced HAn culture..and gradually assimilated over the century..
CHINA was a unified nation 300BC since the emperor Chin unified china..the territory grows when first the mongol defeat and ruled Tibet 900 years ago, then later on the Qing dynasty rule Xinjiang 600 years ago....
In China today. the commie adopt a Russian approach to have many autonomous province ...that each minority shall govern their own kinds..while the many races works towarrds a unified nationality..gradually...the culture, languages. custom are tediously guarded by the central government.............

your view is truly NAZIST!!!!!!!!!!
 

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you have the most queer historical views on china..Han is never a single race ..it is a majority 'race' centred around a unified language and cultures..with different variations fromnorth to south ,east to west...a culturaly moulded 'race' as such..everytime a minority race was conquered..this minority slowly assume the much advanced HAn culture..and gradually assimilated over the century..
CHINA was a unified nation 300BC since the emperor Chin unified china..the territory grows when first the mongol defeat and ruled Tibet 900 years ago, then later on the Qing dynasty rule Xinjiang 600 years ago....
In China today. the commie adopt a Russian approach to have many autonomous province ...that each minority shall govern their own kinds..while the many races works towarrds a unified nationality..gradually...the culture, languages. custom are tediously guarded by the central government.............

your view is truly NAZIST!!!!!!!!!!
I see you are a radical Hanist. I see you are a nationalistic fundamentalist who is dangerous. All these cultural constructs are imperfect. Those that claim they are otherwise are deluded and dangerous. Every cultural construct carried to its extreme is evil. The current flavor could potentially look Hanist. You clearly know little about Chinese historical and current sentiments North, South, East, West. I see your brainwashing is complete. I am truly sorry for you. I subscribe to none of the flavors, whether Nazism, Hanism, Islamism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Christian fundamentalism. You are truly dangerous. BTW, so advanced China was it was conquered by many, including the League of 8 Nations, once.
 

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Why suddenly all the fuck talk about this PRC and whatfuck Han? Not Singapore business. They want kill themselves and call it what fuck name not fucking Singapore probrem. Just do not FUCK bother us. Why all get so fucking worked up your fuckers here? So obiang talk big fuck, go there and talk and show your fuck power IN chEENNA lar! cAN KILL SOMEONE IN WHATEVER NAME BACK THERE SOMEMORE! Talk here like how big nationalism great cHEENA IS GO home and talk. Here Singapore the biggest fuck! All other country sympathizer, fuck OFF!
 

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I agree with you about the slippery slope to democracy. But I strongly believe that you need a majority middle class population or a certain per capita GDP level before you can have democracy. Without that level of affluence democracy is just a word. The poor have no say. Many are not educated so they do not even know what is happening. Others are merely slaves to the landlords and will vote what they are told for a few pennies.

Give me an example of what you see as a democratic society without this strong middle class.

For some, Singapore is a pseudo democracy. But because there is a strong middle class (comes with the ensuing better education, travel) the population is chafing at the current system of representation and the government knows it.

So I believe it starts with economic development. When the average factory worker can go visit HK with his family and the factory supervisor can afford a trip to the US for holiday they will come back asking for more. They will demand changes. Many of the US universities are filled with students from China. And no these are not there on scholarships are there for an education paid for by their parents. They will come back with certain ideas. I would not be surprised if grandson of MM comes back and tells his grandfather what he thinks. Travel, education and access to information levels the playing ground. And you need money for that.

IMF defines developed country in current terms..it must and have to do it that way..it is a monetary institution that has a global monetary role.

A country takes decades to reach developed nation status, if it has no credible judiciary and legislative systems evolved by democratic process. The USA took 150 years to be where it is today. It is not an easy process. Because it evolves sloppily and sluggish but it endures , it is enduring by strength due to passage of time.

Which is what is hapening in India. The USA and other western nations did have their fair share of turmoil and mishaps along the way. But then , history will tell us that is how democracy evolves before it finally deliver its enduring rewards.

You cannot plant or wish for democracy like instant coffee. History can explain this. Today the most developed nations in the world are all democratic ones with a history of over 100 years of political social evolution.
 

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Looks like the Government managed to stop this with little use of force. That is a good sign.


From Voice of America

China's Urumqi Returning to Normal, Following Bloody Violence
By Stephanie Ho
09 July 2009


Uighur women grieve for men who they claim were taken away by Chinese authorities after Sunday's protest in Urumqi, 7 Jul 2009<br />
Uighur women grieve for men who they claim were taken away by Chinese authorities after Sunday's protest in Urumqi, 7 Jul 2009
The situation is relatively calm in Urumqi, the capital of China's Xinjiang region, days after bloody violence there left more than 150 people dead.

For many people in Xinjiang's capital Urumqi, life is slowly returning to normal.

Alison Klayman is a reporter there.

"The scene today was definitely people getting back to regular life," Klayman told VOA. "There were many shopkeepers who were opening their stores and people going back to work, for the first time since Sunday."

A demonstration in Urumqi on Sunday turned violent and deadly, after mostly minority Uighur Muslim protesters clashed with Chinese security forces.

Chinese authorities have rounded up more than 1,400 people on suspicion of involvement in what they are calling an organized, premeditated and severe criminal act of violence. Authorities say they will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law - including capital punishment for the most serious perpetrators.

The Chinese government also has blamed foreign forces for organizing the violence from afar and calls Uighur businesswoman Rebiya Kadeer, who lives in exile in the United States, the top "mastermind."

Han Chinese men wielding clubs
Han Chinese men wielding clubs
In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang rejected Turkey's concerns that the issue should be discussed in the United Nations Security Council.

Qin says there is no reason for the Security Council to discuss events in Xinjiang because they are entirely China's internal affair.

Instead, he urged the international community to support the Chinese government's efforts to safeguard national unity, ethnic solidarity and social stability.

Klayman says Chinese troops are out in force in Urumqi, to help restore calm.

"There's still a very large military presence, especially in Uighur areas, like the bazaar area, in the south of the city," Klayman said. "Buses and trucks with troops surround that whole area, groups of troops running around, making their presence very conspicuous. They are shouting slogans, 'Protect the people. Protect the country. Save the society.'"

The clashes in Xinjiang have largely been between the Han Chinese majority and the Uighur minority, a Turkic group that shares similarities with peoples in Central Asia.

The Uighurs make up nearly half of Xinjiang's 20 million people. They accuse the Chinese of discrimination and repression. The Chinese government accuses them of seeking an independence for Xinjiang.
 

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Indeed majority in China are Han Chinese. That is why there is unity. Furthermore everyone in China communicates using written Mandarin so again there is a common thread.

My question is what are Indians? I know Tamils are from the south and there are the Bengali. Then there is the Hindi Speaking Northern Indians that control political power. Each of these groups speak their own language. Thanks to the Brit, they are somewhat united under the English language but that is if they are literate. On top of that you throw in the disgusting practice of the caste system and i am totally confused. From my understanding, if you want to know people in power or do business, better to learn Hindi.


Kelings are like this. They are even more fucked up than chinese but they will never look at themselves in the mirror and they only know how to point at others. See who the TS is and his assorted rift raft of shit skin scum bags come in here.
 

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Xinjiang was under the central chinese rule for 600+ years.......there has been many conflicks..especially instigated by FOREIGN power as they know Xinjiang is a resource rich region...Russian was the chief instigator in the early days...even the word UIgers was couned by the Russians.....Uigers was a collections of many minorities..who used to roan the grasslands.....NOT a single tribes per se....they were totally defeated by the Hans 400 years BC during the Hans dynasty.......many small kingdoms were annilated then and after,,,,,,,,,
They remain backwards and not so willing to progress with the Hans...and that is the real problems........The Uigers are notorious in all cities in china..as many are unskilled and lowly educated..most become thieves and robbers in big cities.......
A COLLECTION OF DEFEATED MINORITIES WILL TAHES A LONG TIME TO INTEGRATE..ESPECIALLY THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT RELIGIONS...unlike the HUi tribes who are deeply inter-married witht the Hans..and lived very peacefully with the Hans...
The Uigers are decendents of the horseman...tends to be wild and ferocious when they felt they are left out in the fast pace of progress in china........



Typical of these foreign ppl. They want to give others trouble and yet when trouble brews in their own country they also quell them using forecfulness. How are chechens treated? Remember when the USSR was around?


As usual ppl are going to say see the evil chinese and china despite all the facts u have given. These minorities have better rights than chinese but hey they are always right when they riot and create trouble,
 

Ah Guan

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These minorities have better rights than chinese but hey they are always right when they riot and create trouble,

You are right. In the Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Shanghai, the Xinjiang people are well known as snatch thieves and robbers gangs. Their methods are savage and often use their children as accomplices.

The Gong An can't effectively clamp down on them because ethnic exclusivity makes it hard to gather more info about them. Like gypsies, they drift in and out of the cities which also makes them hard to track.

Locals generally avoid them except maybe to buy their roast mutton skewers. Whenever a fight breaks out between a local and one of these fellas, the Gong An catches both and then lets the Xinjiang guy go immediately.... because it is a government policy to protect these ethnic minorities.
 

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hey bros

can share the cumtacts of the xinjiang gals?

:wink:
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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You are right. In the Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Shanghai, the Xinjiang people are well known as snatch thieves and robbers gangs. Their methods are savage and often use their children as accomplices.

The Gong An can't effectively clamp down on them because ethnic exclusivity makes it hard to gather more info about them. Like gypsies, they drift in and out of the cities which also makes them hard to track.

Locals generally avoid them except maybe to buy their roast mutton skewers. Whenever a fight breaks out between a local and one of these fellas, the Gong An catches both and then lets the Xinjiang guy go immediately.... because it is a government policy to protect these ethnic minorities.


I think even if the gong an arrests them they won't be prosecuted cos of the laws.

Typical that the han chinese just have to suck it up. Contrast the economic development of xinjiang to smaller chinese cities say like shen zhen. I can bet shen zhen is more developed than any xin jiang city. Hence these ughers go to these cities since there's more money to cheat from the people there. In fact some han chinese pretend to convert to islam so that they can be hui to get these benefits.


Now people tend to ignore how unfair it is to han chinese when the laws are so biased towards them. No western media would even mention that. Yet the riot erupts and i bet most of those 150 killed were han chinese, nope the media does not focus on the troubles started by those minorities but instead takes big pictures of han chinese retaliating back after having their friends and family murdered in the streets. :mad: Making them look like the aggressors.
 

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I like the way he said it, assuming correct translation...

"For those who brutally killed the other people in the riot, the government will execute them," Urumqi's Communist Party leader, Li Zhi, said Wednesday.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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I like the way he said it, assuming correct translation...

"For those who brutally killed the other people in the riot, the government will execute them," Urumqi's Communist Party leader, Li Zhi, said Wednesday.


What did he mean by OTHER ppl?
 

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Here's a different perspective :

Washington is Playing a Deeper Game with China
by F. William Engdahl
Global Research, July 11, 2009



After the tragic events of July 5 in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in China, it would be useful to look more closely into the actual role of the US Government’s ”independent“ NGO, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). All indications are that the US Government, once more acting through its “private” Non-Governmental Organization, the NED, is massively intervening into the internal politics of China.

The reasons for Washington’s intervention into Xinjiang affairs seems to have little to do with concerns over alleged human rights abuses by Beijing authorities against Uyghur people. It seems rather to have very much to do with the strategic geopolitical location of Xinjiang on the Eurasian landmass and its strategic importance for China’s future economic and energy cooperation with Russia, Kazakhastan and other Central Asia states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

The major organization internationally calling for protests in front of Chinese embassies around the world is the Washington, D.C.-based World Uyghur Congress (WUC).

The WUC manages to finance a staff, a very fancy website in English, and has a very close relation to the US Congress-funded NED. According to published reports by the NED itself, the World Uyghur Congress receives $215,000.00 annually from the National Endowment for Democracy for “human rights research and advocacy projects.” The president of the WUC is an exile Uyghur who describes herself as a “laundress turned millionaire,” Rebiya Kadeer, who also serves as president of the Washington D.C.-based Uyghur American Association, another Uyghur human rights organization which receives significant funding from the US Government via the National Endowment for Democracy.

The NED was intimately involved in financial support to various organizations behind the Lhasa ”Crimson Revolution“ in March 2008, as well as the Saffron Revolution in Burma/Myanmar and virtually every regime change destabilization in eastern Europe over the past years from Serbia to Georgia to Ukraine to Kyrgystan to Teheran in the aftermath of the recent elections.

Allen Weinstein, who helped draft the legislation establishing NED, was quite candid when he said in a published interview in 1991: "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."

The NED is supposedly a private, non-government, non-profit foundation, but it receives a yearly appropriation for its international work from the US Congress. The NED money is channelled through four “core foundations”. These are the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, linked to Obama’s Democratic Party; the International Republican Institute tied to the Republican Party; the American Center for International Labor Solidarity linked to the AFL-CIO US labor federation as well as the US State Department; and the Center for International Private Enterprise linked to the US Chamber of Commerce.

The salient question is what has the NED been actively doing that might have encouraged the unrest in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, and what is the Obama Administration policy in terms of supporting or denouncing such NED-financed intervention into sovereign politics of states which Washington deems a target for pressure? The answers must be found soon, but one major step to help clarify Washington policy under the new Obama Administration would be for a full disclosure by the NED, the US State Department and NGO’s linked to the US Government, of their involvement, if at all, in encouraging Uyghur separatism or unrest. Is it mere coincidence that the Uyghur riots take place only days following the historic meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization?

Uyghur exile organizations, China and Geopolitics

On May 18 this year, the US-government’s in-house “private” NGO, the NED, according to the official WUC website, hosted a seminal human rights conference entitled East Turkestan: 60 Years under Communist Chinese Rule, along with a curious NGO with the name, the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organisation (UNPO).

The Honorary President and founder of the UNPO is one Erkin Alptekin, an exile Uyghur who founded UNPO while working for the US Information Agency’s official propaganda organization, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty as Director of their Uygur Division and Assistant Director of the Nationalities Services.

Alptekin also founded the World Uyghur Congress at the same time, in 1991, while he was with the US Information Agency. The official mission of the USIA when Alptekin founded the World Uyghur Congress in 1991 was “to understand, inform, and influence foreign publics in promotion of the [USA] national interest…” Alptekin was the first president of WUC, and, according to the official WUC website, is a “close friend of the Dalai Lama.”

Closer examination reveals that UNPO in turn to be an American geopolitical strategist’s dream organization. It was formed, as noted, in 1991 as the Soviet Union was collapsing and most of the land area of Eurasia was in political and economic chaos. Since 2002 its Director General has been Archduke Karl von Habsburg of Austria who lists his (unrecognized by Austria or Hungary) title as “Prince Imperial of Austria and Royal Prince of Hungary.”

Among the UNPO principles is the right to ‘self-determination’ for the 57 diverse population groups who, by some opaque process not made public, have been admitted as official UNPO members with their own distinct flags, with a total population of some 150 million peoples and headquarters in the Hague, Netherlands.

UNPO members range from Kosovo which “joined” when it was fully part of then Yugoslavia in 1991. It includes the “Aboriginals of Australia” who were listed as founding members along with Kosovo. It includes the Buffalo River Dene Nation indians of northern Canada.

The select UNPO members also include Tibet which is listed as a founding member. It also includes other explosive geopolitical areas as the Crimean Tartars, the Greek Minority in Romania, the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (in Russia), the Democratic Movement of Burma, and the gulf enclave adjacent to Angola and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and which just happens to hold rights to some of the world’s largest offshore oil fields leased to Condi Rice’s old firm, Chevron Oil. Further geopolitical hotspots which have been granted elite recognition by the UNPO membership include the large section of northern Iran which designates itself as Southern Azerbaijan, as well as something that calls itself Iranian Kurdistan.

In April 2008 according to the website of the UNPO, the US Congress’ NED sponsored a “leadership training” seminar for the World Uyghur Congress (WUC) together with the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization. Over 50 Uyghurs from around the world together with prominent academics, government representatives and members of the civil society gathered in Berlin Germany to discuss “Self-Determination under International Law.” What they discussed privately is not known. Rebiya Kadeer gave the keynote address...
 

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The suspicious timing of the Xinjiang riots

The current outbreak of riots and unrest in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang in the northwest part of China, exploded on July 5 local time.

According to the website of the World Uyghur Congress, the “trigger” for the riots was an alleged violent attack on June 26 in China’s southern Guangdong Province at a toy factory where the WUC alleges that Han Chinese workers attacked and beat to death two Uyghur workers for allegedly raping or sexually molesting two Han Chinese women workers in the factory. On July 1, the Munich arm of the WUC issued a worldwide call for protest demonstrations against Chinese embassies and consulates for the alleged Guangdong attack, despite the fact they admitted the details of the incident were unsubstantiated and filled with allegations and dubious reports.

According to a press release they issued, it was that June 26 alleged attack that gave the WUC the grounds to issue their worldwide call to action.

On July 5, a Sunday in Xinjiang but still the USA Independence Day, July 4, in Washington, the WUC in Washington claimed that Han Chinese armed soldiers seized any Uyghur they found on the streets and according to official Chinese news reports, widespread riots and burning of cars along the streets of Urumqi broke out resulting over the following three days in over 140 deaths.

China’s official Xinhua News Agency said that protesters from the Uighur Muslim ethnic minority group began attacking ethnic Han pedestrians, burning vehicles and attacking buses with batons and rocks. "They took to the street...carrying knives, wooden batons, bricks and stones," they cited an eyewitness as saying. The French AFP news agency quoted Alim Seytoff, general secretary of the Uighur American Association in Washington, that according to his information, police had begun shooting "indiscriminately" at protesting crowds.

Two different versions of the same events: The Chinese government and pictures of the riots indicate it was Uyghur riot and attacks on Han Chinese residents that resulted in deaths and destruction. French official reports put the blame on Chinese police “shooting indiscriminately.” Significantly, the French AFP report relies on the NED-funded Uyghur American Association of Rebiya Kadeer for its information. The reader should judge if the AFP account might be motivated by a US geopolitical agenda, a deeper game from the Obama Administration towards China’s economic future.

Is it merely coincidence that the riots in Xinjiang by Uyghur organizations broke out only days after the meeting took place in Yakaterinburg, Russia of the member nations of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, as well as Iran as official observer guest, represented by President Ahmadinejad?

Over the past few years, in the face of what is seen as an increasingly hostile and incalculable United States foreign policy, the major nations of Eurasia—China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan have increasingly sought ways of direct and more effective cooperation in economic as well as security areas. In addition, formal Observer status within SCO has been given to Iran, Pakistan, India and Mongolia. The SCO defense ministers are in regular and growing consultation on mutual defense needs, as NATO and the US military command continue provocatively to expand across the region wherever it can.

The Strategic Importance of Xinjiang for Eurasian Energy Infrastructure

There is another reason for the nations of the SCO, a vital national security element, to having peace and stability in China’s Xinjiang region. Some of China’s most important oil and gas pipeline routes pass directly through Xinjiang province. Energy relations between Kazkhstan and China are of enormous strategic importance for both countries, and allow China to become less dependent on oil supply sources that can be cut off by possible US interdiction should relations deteriorate to such a point.

Kazak President Nursultan Nazarbayev paid a State visit in April 2009 to Beijing. The talks concerned deepening economic cooperation, above all in the energy area, where Kazkhastan holds huge reserves of oil and likely as well of natural gas. After the talks in Beijing, Chinese media carried articles with such titles as “"Kazakhstani oil to fill in the Great Chinese pipe."

The Atasu-Alashankou pipeline to be completed in 2009 will provide transportation of transit gas to China via Xinjiang. As well Chinese energy companies are involved in construction of a Zhanazholskiy gas processing plant, Pavlodar electrolyze plant and Moynakskaya hydro electric station in Kazakhstan.

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According to the US Government’s Energy Information Administration, Kazakhstan’s Kashagan field is the largest oil field outside the Middle East and the fifth largest in the world in terms of reserves, located off the northern shore of the Caspian Sea, near the city of Atyrau. China has built a 613-mile-long pipeline from Atasu, in northwestern Kazakhstan, to Alashankou at the border of China's Xinjiang region which is exporting Caspian oil to China. PetroChina’s ChinaOil is the exclusive buyer of the crude oil on the Chinese side. The pipeline is a joint venture of CNPC and Kaztransoil of Kazkhstan. Some 85,000 bbl/d of Kazakh crude oil flowed through the pipeline during 2007. China’s CNPC is also involved in other major energy projects with Kazkhstan. They all traverse China’s Xinjiang region.

In 2007 CNPC signed an agreement to invest more than $2 billion to construct a natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan through Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to China. That pipeline would start at Gedaim on the border of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan and extend 1,100 miles through Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to Khorgos in China's Xinjiang region. Turkmenistan and China have signed a 30-year supply agreement for the gas that would fill the pipeline. CNPC has set up two entities to oversee the Turkmen upstream project and the development of a second pipeline that will cross China from the Xinjiang region to southeast China at a cost of some $7 billion.

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As well, Russia and China are discussing major natural gas pipelines from eastern Siberia through Xinjiang into China. Eastern Siberia contains around 135 Trillion cubic feet of proven plus probable natural gas reserves. The Kovykta natural gas field could give China with natural gas in the next decade via a proposed pipeline.

During the current global economic crisis, Kazakhstan received a major credit from China of $10 billion, half of which is for oil and gas sector. The oil pipeline Atasu-Alashankou and the gas pipeline China-Central Asia, are an instrument of strategic 'linkage' of central Asian countries to the economy China. That Eurasian cohesion from Russia to China across Central Asian countries is the geopolitical cohesion Washington most fears. While they would never say so, growing instability in Xinjiang would be an ideal way for Washington to weaken that growing cohesion of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization nations.
 

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The US is anticipating a extreme stagflation in their economy..so must crear more trouble for china..who is poised to overtake Japan..economy NEXT year..and will accelerate to overtake US ,,IN REAL TERM[ ie.factor in the depreciation of US dollars and asset ] maybe 10 to 15 years..........US shall loose her dominance soon..a question of time.....
US has not stop to creat trouble for china by instigation of racial tension and separatist movements...........US will continue to do so for many years to come..while china will grow stronger by the days...
IF one look at history at 500 years step..US was a novice compare to china and INdia.........
 

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Muslim Indons and Turks are damn buay paiseh to condemn China.

All riots in Xinjiang over the last 20 years have always been started by the Uighurs who massacred innocent people. Exactly like Turks killing Armenians and Indons killing Chinese.

I think the Muslims just support their own, without giving a damn about the facts.

Typical of these foreign ppl. They want to give others trouble and yet when trouble brews in their own country they also quell them using forecfulness. How are chechens treated? Remember when the USSR was around?


As usual ppl are going to say see the evil chinese and china despite all the facts u have given. These minorities have better rights than chinese but hey they are always right when they riot and create trouble,
 
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