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China: Our navy must be the most powerful in Asia

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China: Our navy must be the most powerful in Asia

Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:30 am

China is today the most powerful nation in Asia: it has the biggest ground forces in the world at 1.7 million active personnel, the largest airforce in the continent with over 2,500 aircrafts, and the Asian state with the most devastating strategic missile force - a nuclear arsenal size estimated from between 240 nuclear weapons to as many as 3,000 warheads. In term of military expenditure, China spends US$166 billion every year, an amount equivalent to what the next 6 highest Asian spenders (Japan, India, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Pakistan) put in altogether.

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China now has Asia's biggest ground and air forces, want the same for navy

China however, trailed behind in the seas. To be sure, no other Asian state could mount an effective challenge against the Chinese navy, who is currently as large as the next 3 Asian navies (Japanese maritime self-defense force, South Korean navy and the Indian navy) combined in tonnage, but still the People Liberation Navy isn't the most powerful naval fleet in Asia. That honor goes to the U.S. Pacific Fleet, whom China views as its top maritime competitor, an obstructive force that has long been checking the Chinese ambitions in East Asia, Southeast Asia and the Western Pacific.

But this is about to change. China is rapidly expanding its naval force, aimed largely at countering the U.S. Pacific Fleet. Two months ago, a U.S. congressional advisory panel sounded warning on China's military buildup, predicting Beijing's vast naval modernization programs could mean the country may possess the largest navy in Asia by 2020, altering the balance of power in the Asia-Pacific region and challenging decades of U.S. maritime pre-eminence in Western Pacific. The U.S. then, would need to station 60% of its total warships in the Asia-Pacific region by 2020, compared with about 50% at the moment.

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China's first and second island chain, the U.S. is the only obstacle to such Chinese naval ambition

American allies are worried. Senior Japanese military official Lieutenant General Noboru Yamaguchi told the Lowy Institute last year that the Chinese navy has recently surpassed the Russian navy to be the second largest naval force in the world, though the U.S. Navy remains unrivaled in seas. Without American naval presence, China could tackle the entire Eastern Asian maritime force all by itself alone, which include the navies of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and the 10 ASEAN states. As of 2013, China's submarine fleet is also reportedly the world's second-largest, with as much subs as Japan, India, Taiwan, South Korea and the ASEAN states combined.

China President Xi Jinping has thrown his personal weight behind the maritime strategy. In a speech to the Politburo, Xi said the oceans would play an increasingly important role this century in China's economic development. "We love peace and will remain on a path of peaceful development but that doesn't mean giving up our rights, especially involving the nation's core interests," he was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency. China has since been making waves in the South China Sea, where it has territorial disputes with a number of littoral states, and also the East China Sea, where Chinese warships are a now a permanent presence near or passing through the Japanese islands.

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China President wants a strong navy to establish the country as 'true global superpower'

The ideological keel of Beijing's modern bid to become a maritime power was laid down as the strength of China's economy flowed through into sharply increased military budgets. China believes it should be entitled to a rightful place in the seas after centuries of trauma from European and Japanese colonization. "The Qing Dynasty was badly defeated in naval warfare by overseas imperialist powers, leading to the decline and fall of the dynasty," wrote Zhang Wenmu, a professor at Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

Ni Lexiong, a professor at Shanghai's University of Political Science and Law, documented how China's failure to properly fund its navy was a factor in its 1895 defeat in the first Sino-Japanese war and the subsequent loss of Taiwan. "A truly powerful nation must have thriving international trade, a merchant fleet to carry these goods and a strong navy to protect its sea lanes." The rise of earlier seafaring and trading powers - Portugal, Spain, Holland, Great Britain, the United States and Japan stemmed from the strength of their naval power. China's Ming dynasty once had the world's largest naval fleet, but at some point in history turned isolationist, paving way to the decline of Chinese maritime power in global stage.

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Analysts warn that without the Americans, the Chinese military is now strong enough to take on all these nations alone

China last year overtook the United States as the world's biggest trading nation, according to official data from both countries. Up to 90% of Chinese trade is carried out by sea, including most of its vital imports of energy and raw materials, shipping experts estimate. Beijing's strategists fear the U.S. could interrupt this trade at a time of crisis or conflict. The Chinese military used to focus on its massive ground forces, but now that the eastern seaboard is the throbbing engine of the world's second-largest economy, fighting a war inside China would be catastrophic, win or lose. It is far better to meet challenges at sea or take the battle into the territory of a hostile nation.

As a result, military competition between the the U.S. and China is on the rise, with China's defense budget more than doubling since 2006. The country has developed drones, stealth fighters and an aircraft carrier while deploying a type of anti-ship ballistic missile the U.S. says is meant to threaten its carriers in the region. It is a repetition of the early 20th century, when Britain and Germany engaged in a deadly naval race that led to World War I. At that time, the Imperial German Navy was second only to the (British) Royal Navy, and the German Empire desired "a rightful place in the sun" and a strong navy to protect its ever-increasing maritime trade. By this time, Germany had surpassed Britain as Europe's biggest economy.

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Historians see similarities to the British-German naval race in the 1900s

Captain Alfred Thayer Mahan, an American naval officer back in 1887, emphasized on naval supremacy. His argument was that every nation that had ruled the waves, from Rome to Great Britain, had prospered and thrived, while those that lacked naval supremacy, such as Hannibal's Carthage or Napoleon's France, had not. He hypothesized that what Britain had done in building a navy to control the world's sea lanes, others could also do, if they were to keep up with the race for wealth and empire in the future. German Kaiser Wilhelm II wanted a Navy which shall be larger and stronger than the British navy. In 1898 came the first German Fleet Act, which in another decade propelled Germany from a naval ranking lower than Austria to having the second largest naval fleet in the world.

In 1920, the Imperial Japanese Navy became the third largest navy in the world, behind the Royal Navy and the United States Navy. Regionally in Asia however, it was the U.S. Navy, not the Royal navy, that posed the greatest threat to the Japanese. Since the 1930s, Japan began to structure itself specifically to fight the United States. Prior to the outbreak of World War 2, the Japanese navy was of the size of 35,000 standard ton displacement, half the U.S. Navy 70,000. It resembled a similarity to the German empire back in 1914, when the British Navy was 2 times bigger than the German navy.

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The Chinese navy is undergoing the most rapid build-up in the world

In 1939, the Japanese was bogged down by the war in China. The military originally predicted that China would be conquered in just 3 months, but the Chinese put up an all-out resistance which exhausted Japan's resources and supplies. Japan, like Britain, was almost entirely dependent on foreign resources to supply its economy. At this time the U.S., Britain and other Western powers had placed an embargo on Japan over its expansionist policies. To secure and protect distant sources of raw material (especially Southeast Asian oil and raw materials), controlled by foreign countries (Britain, France, and the Netherlands), Japan drafted up plan to attack Pearl Harbor, which would allow it to gain naval supremacy in Asia-Pacific and enable it a free hand in the region.

The destruction of the fleets in Pearl Harbor led to a temporal superiority over the U.S. navy. In 1941, the standard ton displacement of the Japanese navy was 180,000 - compared to the U.S. 130,000. With that, Japan immediately proceed to sink British battleships Prince of Wales and Repulse in Malaya. Britain's Prime Minster Winston Churchill, after the incidents, said, "in all the war, I never received a more direct shock... As I turned over and twisted in bed the full horror of the news sank in upon me. There were no British or American ships in the Indian Ocean or the Pacific except the American survivors of Pearl Harbor, who were hastening back to California. Over all this vast expanse of waters Japan was supreme, and we everywhere were weak and naked."

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The Japanese navy was for a while, stronger than the U.S. Navy after Pearl Harbor, but lost to American manufacturing prowess

China has not reached the historical level of the Imperial German and Japanese navies, however. The U.S. Navy is currently around 4-5 times bigger than its Chinese counterparts. The Asian giant though, has something to make up for it. While Japan and Germany eventually lost to the vast American manufacturing power, China eclipsed the United States to be the world's largest manufacturing nation in 2010 and the disparity is widening over the years.

Latest news report revealed that China is building its second aircraft carrier, which is expected to take six years, with the country aiming to have at least four such ships, Chinese and Hong Kong media said on Sunday. After two decades of double-digit increases in the military budget, China's admirals are finally pushing forward to develop a full blue-water navy capable of defending growing economic interests as well as disputed territory in the South and East China Seas. The country's first aircraft carrier Liaoning - a Soviet-era ship bought from Ukraine in 1998 and re-fitted in a Chinese shipyard - has long been a symbol of China's naval build-up.

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American poster warning against naval spending cut, citing China as a top threat

16 years after it bought the Soviet carrier, China now possess the technical expertise to build its own aircraft carrier. The size of the carrier, 110,000-ton, will be huge enough to rival the biggest in United States Navy. Early this month, a Japanese newspaper said China was overhauling its military structure in order to strengthen its attack capability and secure air and naval superiority in the South China and East China seas. The Liaoning carrier conducted its maiden mission in the South China Sea in January. It followed an incident in December in which a US warship was forced to avoid a collision with a Chinese naval vessel, prompting Washington to accuse China of being the aggressor.

It is of no secret that China is aiming to have a naval force bigger than the U.S. Pacific Fleet by 2020 or sooner. The country now has the world's second largest navy, and is pushing for a closer parity with the United States. Speaking to state media, Ma Gang, a professor at the People's Liberation Army National Defense University, said: "China should have a military that can match its power status (of a great power). The Chinese military has expanded its sphere of activity, aiming to extend its naval and air forces farther from the coast and into international waters."

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China: We will return to the glorious period like during the Ming dynasty

In Tokyo, Japan says China's growing maritime power has emerged as the biggest challenge to the Japanese military since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Japan this year reversed a decade of declining military outlays and instead boosted its spending by 0.8% to 4.9 trillion yen (US$48 billion). Japanese military analysts believe their navy still holds a clear advantage in technology and firepower over its Chinese rival but the gap is closing. Security experts estimate that it will take China about 15 years to match the Japanese and U.S. naval technologies if Beijing can maintain its double digit annual increases in military spending.

And time is tickling, the Chinese navy is the world's fastest-growing naval force in 2013, commissioning 2 missile destroyers, 3 missile frigates, 9 light missile frigates, 2 large auxiliary ships, 4 conventional submarines, 2 supporting warships for submarines, 1 nuclear submarine, 2 double-hull survey vessels, 1 warship for testing underwater sound equipment and 2 minesweepers. It will again be the fastest-growing this year, and will begin to build its first Type 001A homegrown aircraft carrier and large high-speed combat support warship, improved Type 039B submarine, improved Type 081 minesweeper, improved Type 071 landing platform dock, new-type medium-sized landing ship, Type 055 large missile destroyer, and Type 057 missile frigate.

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China is expected to have the world's largest submarine fleet in 2 years, just like Germany had during World War 2

The U.S. accused the rapid expansion of China's navy as an aggressive act. According to a congressional study, Beijing is by no means simply trying to protect its trade routes and its citizens abroad but, rather, is determined to assert its territorial claims, push back the US' influence in the Pacific and underline its status as a global military power. China rejected the accusation. "It seems to me the West is simply faint-hearted," says Xu Guangyu, 78, a retired People's Liberation Army general and current senior analyst with the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association. China, he says, wants to "build up a navy that is strong enough to keep an adversary from attacking, strong enough to defend itself and strong enough to strike back."

Xu also explained that the biggest competitor to the U.S. Navy is Russia not China. He rejects report that China is now the second largest navy. "When it comes to ships and equipment, though, we rank third, behind the U.S. and Russia." The retired general however, said that personnel ratio between China's army and navy is 7 to 1.5, while the desired ratio should be 5 to 2.5. If that desired ratio were indeed established, China would field the world's largest navy.

Thanks to mevotex of miricom.
 
Full of fake components. The hardware won't last more than a week at sea without breaking down.
 
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<section style="border: 0px; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; line-height: 16px; vertical-align: baseline; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Whenever you hear about counterfeit merchandise, you almost always think about China. It's not completely undeserved -- the country does have a history of churning out tons of fake DVDs, electronics, designer clothing and everything else you can and can't imagine.
Why? Because they're really, really good at it. The amount of work and creativity the Chinese underworld puts into their fakes is so damn impressive that you have to wonder why they'd ever need to steal other people's ideas. These are the people who have faked ...
[h=2]#5. Entire Companies[/h]
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When Chinese counterfeiters decide to set up a series of knockoff store chains, they don't mess around trying to be subtle. Check out this strangely familiar retailer in Kunming, China:
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Everything at this Apple Store is 30 percent cheaper than the one down the street because capitalism.
They have the Apple logo, the displays and even blue-T-shirt-clad staff members sporting that classic Apple smug grin.
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Ha, that awkward 45-degree angle. Classic.
The illusion was so perfect that even the employees thought the place was legit. Let's say that again: Even though it's a complete knockoff, all the employees completely believed they were working for Apple.
Chinese officials have so far found a total of 22 fake Apple stores operating across the country. Hell, at least when somebody opened a chain of fake Ikea stores, they had the courtesy to reverse the color scheme:
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The food in their cafe was 40 percent lead, making it markedly more delicious than the real thing.
But both of those pale in comparison with the scope of the counterfeiting operation that targeted the Japanese electronics giant NEC.
In 2004, NEC got word that some counterfeit computer products with their logo on them were coming out of China. Big surprise, right? But when they had someone investigate it further, instead of a single rogue factory they discovered a massive, multinational operation counterfeiting ... well, all of NEC.
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Which one do we sue? Which one do we sue?
Someone in China actually created an entire parallel NEC enterprise with business cards, R&D commissions, detailed production plans and even warranties all bearing the NEC mark.
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This fake NEC also had a network of over 50(!) factories across China and Taiwan producing existing NEC goods and totally new products like MP3 players and entertainment systems ... for which the evil-twin NEC was receiving "royalties." Some of their products were even found in stores of major retailers.
But here's the craziest part: The real NEC guys admitted that those "original fakes" were actually of a pretty good quality, which was probably like being told that some guy stole your identity and then used it to win the Biggest Penis World Championship.
[h=2]#4. Prehistoric Fossils[/h]
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Dinosaur bones are valuable, for obvious reasons -- besides being a finite resource, they're also difficult to find, being buried deep underground and all. What if you could simply skip the entire "discover it and clean it off and assemble it together" process that makes archaeology so tedious and skip right to the "make money from tourists" part? Leave it to industrious Chinese counterfeiters to find a way.
In the 1970s, the Chinese fossil market exploded, with dino-bits being dug up and sold all over the country. When the supply dried up, someone suggested, "Why don't we just make some more?"
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Really, the difference between a million years and 10 minutes is where you put the decimal point.
And thus, today China is one of the biggest suppliers of fake fossils on the planet. Why bother? Well, here's a fake rat fossil made from a calcified fish. It sold on eBay for over $3,000:
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We don't even buy HDMI cables from Chinese retailers.
They can be made in a number of ways, including building skeletons out of chicken/frog bones or plaster and rock, to more authentic fakes made by mixing existing fossils into completely new animals, and sometimes even crushing them into a paste and sculpting new bones. Examples range from fake pterosaur fossils ...
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Scientists speculate he was delicious with hoisin sauce.
... to fake saber-tooth tiger heads made from modified dog skulls:
The problem is so persistent that some Chinese scientists are claiming that judging modern fossil collections on their authenticity is just "unrealistic." We wonder if the same thing will eventually happen for ...
[h=2]#3. IDs for Underage Kids[/h]
There's been a lot of talk lately about China taking away American jobs, but the one profession we've always assumed would forever stay within U.S. borders is the proud tradition of making fake IDs for underage kids wanting to get shitfaced. That is no longer the case.
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Because you don't need an ID for meth.
Since 2010, police have been finding insanely high-quality fake driver's licenses and other IDs on underage drinkers all across the country. The fakes were so sophisticated, in fact, that they could fool not only bouncers and law enforcement officers, but also some bar-code readers. And they all originated from one company in Nanjing, China.
It works like this: You email the company your physical description, your picture and other information you want on the ID. Then you pay them $300 (or $75 if you order more than 20). Finally, you receive your ID in the mail, hidden in the sole of cheap-ass shoes.
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Which will prevent you from getting into most clubs, no matter how many ID cards you throw at people.
Fortunately, most of the fake IDs can be identified immediately with advanced scanning, so they don't really pose a problem to national security or anything. Still, that doesn't mean they have no negative consequences; studies have shown that underage people are more prone to binge drinking than legal adults, which can often have lethal results. And what about Steve from Dorm B?! How is he supposed to pay for that new laminating machine and his WoW subscription with China taking away all of his business?
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"Well, I guess it's back to the gold farmi -- awww, damn it."
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Does not matter the best way to defeat the Chinese has always been money n sowing discord, tested n proven for thousands of years . Enough money n the air craft carrier will fly your panties as flag
 
Does not matter the best way to defeat the Chinese has always been money n sowing discord, tested n proven for thousands of years . Enough money n the air craft carrier will fly your panties as flag

Alamak, China already holding $1.4 trillion in US debt. Who is to give whom money? Who is to fly whose panties as whose flag?
 
Alamak, China already holding $1.4 trillion in US debt. Who is to give whom money? Who is to fly whose panties as whose flag?

You realise that as long as the debt is in USD, the Americans can pay the debt within 24 hours. China is the loser as it has all its eggs in one basket.
 
Problem is that it never happens overnight. Chinese know about that exposure and pretty sure they have trying to reduce that exposure over the last few years (EU meltdown has not help). Going forward it might become expensive for US to borrow from Chinese. Read that they have been building up their gold reserves (still very small part of reserves).
 
Another big war between China and India will be a good thing. Let them fight it out and the Ah Tiongs and Ah Nehs here can do likewise. After they are done, we can then kick the PAP and the foreigners out.
 
Read that they have been building up their gold reserves (still very small part of reserves).

You're right. China already has the world's 3rd largest gold reserves and may be #2 by the year's end. The aim is simple: holding so much debt in a banana currency like the trashy USD has made the Chinese resolve to revert to the pre-1971 gold standard, with a difference: yuan as reserve currency.



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China Claims To Already Have the Third Largest Gold Reserves in the World




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It should be noted that this report is sourced from 'ScrapMonster.' I have found it on the webpage for the Shanghai Metals Market. The numbers in this article do not agree with the latest reported number for China from the World Gold Council, which by the way is hopelessly out of date.

More importantly, there is no IMF report that I have been independently been able to find that discloses this information. If this story below is true, then it is quite the news piece, since details on China's gold holdings are of great interest to many. The number in the story below is credible, which first sparked my interest in it.

Let's see if the Chinese confirm or deny this, or more likely, continue to say nothing and buy.


Here is a recent news item about this controversy from Bloomberg:
"After adjusting for net imports from Hong Kong and domestic output, the figure is closer to 5,086 metric tons [central bank holdings plus private gold holdings]. When taking away gold uses for jewelry, industrial and other categories and adding implied bar demand to central bank holdings, the figure is likely closer to 2,710 mt.

"China would need 10 years for its gold holdings to catch up to the U.S., based on adjusted Chinese consumption for jewelry, industrial and other uses and using implied bar demand as the primary driver of incremental central bank additions. Based on run rates during 2013, China may have added 622 metric tons of bars to its central bank holdings, after adding 380 mt in 2012."
This news item below is purportedly what China is willing to 'officially report,'` that they have expanded their official gold reserves by 76%, to 2,710 tonnes. If this is accurate then China is now just behind the US and Germany, which say that they hold 8,133.5 and 3,391.3 tonness respectively. China has already surpassed Italy and France.

Given the 2,710 tonne figure I have to wonder if the author of the Scrapmonster piece picked it up from Bloomberg and then ran with it. It would make some sense, although Bloomberg does not mention anything about the IMF.

There is some controversy regarding the disposition of Germany's gold, much of which is held outside that country, as you would know if you frequent this café. More on that later.

Privately there is a great deal of speculation that the heavy flows of gold through Shanghai are not merely going to the public market in China, but are also helping to fill their central bank reserve vaults even further than they will admit.

As you may recall, China is encouraging its people to place some portion of their personal wealth in precious metals.

It is easy to sneer at goldbugs, those who find a refuge from abusive monetary policy in the traditional safe haven of precious metals, but it quite another thing to tell the 800 pound gorillas in the global market, China and Russia among them, that they do not understand anything about risk and money.

Agree with them or not, they are making their case for what they think will happen in the future of global money, and are putting some of their own sizable wealth down on the table to back it up. And if the models of a few academic economists do not agree with them, they really do not care. They have their own economists, and their own interpretations of history, and their own needs and agendas.

And there are other countries who are now desperately seeking to bring their gold home from the custodial storage in New York, which is an artifact of World War II and the Cold War. And some of them, like Germany are finding that it is not so easy to persuade the New York Fed to return it. We can only wonder why.

These are central banks, who seem to be managing their national affairs with quite an informed and determined outlook towards the future. To completely ignore the implications of this, which to me seem quite clear, is nothing short of willful blindness. If we just shut our eyes and say no, then the change will not affect us. Except that the smart money is already on the move behind the scenes.

There is an ongoing debate happening now among the nations' bankers about the suitable replacement for the de facto Bretton Woods IIarrangement which bases global trade settlements on the fiat dollar, no longer tied to gold since Nixon made a unilateral decision to shut the gold window. They have made public statements about what they would prefer to see adopted, and Russia made this discussion a formal topic during its G20 chairmanship last year.

It has been a long time coming. But change is going to come. It always does. And it may wash over those who stubbornly refuse to even admit that it is happening.
 
Why risk it with military all out WAR? Just use $$$ to buy their way to those Islands... starting with Malaysia!

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Chinese ships patrol area contested by Malaysia

Three Chinese ships on Sunday patrolled the James Shoal, an area also claimed by Malaysia, with soldiers and officers on board promising to safeguard its sovereignty in the latest sign of Beijing’s territorial assertiveness in the South China Sea.

The group comprised an amphibious landing craft —the Changbaishan— and two destroyers, said state news agency Xinhua.

“During the ceremony held in the Zengmu Reef area, soldiers and officers on board swore to safeguard the country’s sovereignty and maritime interests,” added Xinhua. ZengmuReef is the Chinese term for the James Shoal.

The news agency said fleet commander Jiang Weilie urged soldiers and officers to always be prepared to fight, improve combat capabilities and lead the forces to help build China into a maritime power.

Beijing is in an increasingly tense dispute with its neighbours over claims to parts of the potentially oil and gas-rich South China Sea. The country claims almost the whole of the sea, which is criss-crossed by crucial shipping lanes, and regards the James Shoal as the southernmost part of its territory.

Last March, Malaysia protested against the incursion of four Chinese ships in the James Shoal, about 80km off Sarawak on Borneo island. Chinese sailors fired shots in the air during the visit to the shoal. In April, a Chinese maritime surveillance ship returned to the shoal to leave steel markers to assert its claim.

China upset the Philippines and the United States this month when rules demanding fishing boats to seek permission to enter waters under the jurisdiction of China’s Hainan province took effect. Hainan is an area the provincial government says covers much of the South China Sea.

Vietnam, Taiwan, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines also claim other parts of the South China Sea. Beijing has a separate dispute with Tokyo in the East China Sea.
 
Some people might be impressed by military might and channel their resources to having the mightiest armies, navies and air forces in the world/region. Well, fine. Go for it. But every country should first take care of their internal woes, poverty, infrastructure, medical, education, and other social needs first, reduce the income gap, improve the quality of lives for their people first. That should be the priority.

For all the military hardware, I would like to see PRC compete with other industrialized big countries like creating the equivalent of Disney productions. As long as her defences are strong enough that nobody can invade and instruct PRC on how to run her country (like in her recent history), that's sufficient.

Cheers!
 
During a recent Asia-Pac military meet involving many countries.

There was a 2 week exercise, and many countries showed off their helicopters. China had the fiercest looking helicopter with the most guns. Problem was, it was only available for two days, for the rest of the two weeks, it was facing technical difficulties.

The US shouldn't be too worried.
 
For this time round, i concur with you !

Hope the Chinese Defence Industries will not resort to the ways some other manufacturers in China pursue their business, like the melamine in infants milk and the card-boards in the char siew incidents of the past.

If they resort to these styles then their propellors and gen-sets may malfunction or worse still break down in the middle of a deep sea.

Some other foreign navies will have to come to their aid.

Remember the Russian submarine case in Swedish (or was it Finnish) waters
 
I can't wait for the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere version 2.0, led by China.

Men can be translators and 'traders', women can be comfort women. ;)
 
japan have the best navy in asia now, not to mention usa is the best navy in the world.
 
Just drop a few nuclear bombs on Beijing, Shanghai and the Hainan island and everything is solved.
 
Dumbfuck Americans have been invading other countries with their military for decades. How dare they accuse China of doing anything compared to their own shameful record
 
Having the biggest fleet (in terms of tonnage) and the largest army (in terms of manpower) doesn't mean shit if they do not know how to fully utilize the equipment. This by itself is the biggest reason why they will not win a war if they were to start one. It's not about how many, it's about how you fully use it. :rolleyes:
 
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