Casino gambling fall in here!!!

[silverfox@]

Don't worry, go Genting VIP room.

(errr.bro genting need abt 5-6 hr journey a bit far right?)

(errr....hmm not a bad idea, but hate travelling by bus, will heed ur advice and travel to mgm at macau instead, junket had been arrange and air ticket and lodging had been taken care by the junket, thanks for the advice to gamble over sea. too bad subokong only can go on jan2009, will meet bro tintin and guys first)

Genting you can take coach which is 7 hours.
You can take air which amounts to about 5 hours.
Or you can take limousine pick you up from Singapore. About 4+ hours.

It's not about journey. You see, if you go cruise, you spend 1 hour take ferry. In the end, the table limit is so small for you. Then you might as well spend few hours go to a place with big limits when you can even bet 10 times more than what you usually can bet on ship.

BTW, if you go VIP room and the table limit limits you, you can request to up the table limit. That is provided you bet that big and can be done. Genting not scared you ask them to up limit. They only afraid you don't bet.

Well to some people, when they bet, it all depends on their comfort level.
I go Genting, I bet $800-$1000 per bet.
I stay at home online, I play $5USD per bet.

(but $10 reduce risk and enhance gain?am really admire at your patience and energy for 4 hours of travelling to gamble and make $150 if u win.i am totally impress for ur so call system. if u are so confident raise ur entee.)

I must put it more clearly. Hope you can read it clearer.

I started out in Genting then with $1000 Ringgit and $10 bets. Till today, I place $800-$1000 per bet.

My friend attempted and is doing $5K-$10K per bet, because he wants to win big. My appetite not as big as his.
My philosophy is like this, why use own money to whack casino? Win and slowly use casino's money against them. That is why I started with $10 where I could have started from $100.

Whether its $10, $100, $1000, I don't think people are wasting time.
If you can win $10 15 times - $150, that one person who bet $1000 may lost 3 times which is $3000. Lose time vs lose money, which one more serious?

I have seen richies become paupers. the blackjack, roulette, baccarat tables , chairs are sponsored courtesy of them. Every now and then go and pay salary to croupiers

 

[silverfox@]

Anyone know the maximum bets for roulette on 1-12 and 19-36 bets on casinos. On baccarat, I am still not convince that betting on banker is the best option. On blackjack is more on luck. On roulette, I think is more viable, 30 numbers against 7 numbers.

This method, i tried before with $25 bets, wouldn't win money.
In fact can lose if the 7 numbers open and if they open often, it will become a nightmare. So you don't need to try with few thousand and just bet that 1 time. Because emotionally, you wouldn't place bet just that 1 time and then leave. If that 1st time is a loss, what is your contingency? Lose and go home or stay and fight?

Increasing the percentage of hitting, doesn't mean the percentage of winnings is increased. In fact, your percentage of winnings is greatly reduced

 

[fl_slayer]

Genting you can take coach which is 7 hours.
You can take air which amounts to about 5 hours.
Or you can take limousine pick you up from Singapore. About 4+ hours.

huh?flying to perth or macau also abt the same time , y should i waste my effort travelling to genting?u r really weird.wat so fantastic abt genting and u seem like promoting it?

It's not about journey. You see, if you go cruise, you spend 1 hour take ferry. In the end, the table limit is so small for you. Then you might as well spend few hours go to a place with big limits when you can even bet 10 times more than what you usually can bet on ship.

?i am trying to say u spend abt 2 hours by ferry to cruise and bet $10 is a waste of time. and i had never mention $600 limit is too small for me(u are putting words into my mouth bro)limit too small for ppl using martingale system which will not work in cruise.

I must put it more clearly. Hope you can read it clearer.
I started out in Genting then with $1000 Ringgit and $10 bets. Till today, I place $800-$1000 per bet.
My friend attempted and is doing $5K-$10K per bet, because he wants to win big. My appetite not as big as his.
My philosophy is like this, why use own money to whack casino? Win and slowly use casino's money against them. That is why I started with $10 where I could have started from $100.

are u a malaysian?keep mentioning genting?which other casino have u been?u sound like a novice to me. btw i really like to know ppl with $10bet can make casino lose tons of money.

Whether its $10, $100, $1000, I don't think people are wasting time.
If you can win $10 15 times - $150, that one person who bet $1000 may lost 3 times which is $3000. Lose time vs lose money, which one more serious?

'IF' is the biggest word in oxford dictionary.'IF' u can win 15 times(very unlikely for barcarat) u keep mentioning $150? u mean ur aim is to make $150 a day in cruise?dun understand at all, by the way can u really make that $150 a day without fail?:oIo:

I have seen richies become paupers. the blackjack, roulette, baccarat tables , chairs are sponsored courtesy of them. Every now and then go and pay salary to croupiers

richies become paupers(agreed but we are talking abt ppl betting with a system and not gamblers, we r toking abt investor in casino who know abt gaming)

 

[silverfox@]

huh?flying to perth or macau also abt the same time , y should i waste my effort travelling to genting?u r really weird.wat so fantastic abt genting and u seem like promoting it?

The discussion first started out with you saying that people are betting too little. You were the one who started saying that you might get banned as you were always winning. I am suggesting land casinos where limits can be increased. You can try Perth, Macau if you wish though, but the nearest land casino would be Genting.

?i am trying to say u spend abt 2 hours by ferry to cruise and bet $10 is a waste of time. and i had never mention $600 limit is too small for me(u are putting words into my mouth bro)limit too small for ppl using martingale system which will not work in cruise.

Whatever people bet is up to others, I place bets between $800-$1000 when I am in genting. But I don't preach to others that their bets are too small or criticise they are wasting their time. Everyone should play at their own comfort level.

are u a malaysian?keep mentioning genting?which other casino have u been?u sound like a novice to me. btw i really like to know ppl with $10bet can make casino lose tons of money.

I have been to casinos in US, Cambodia, Macau, Australia, Malaysia. That's all I have been to. Genting is the nearest to singapore.

'IF' is the biggest word in oxford dictionary.'IF' u can win 15 times(very unlikely for barcarat) u keep mentioning $150? u mean ur aim is to make $150 a day in cruise?dun understand at all, by the way can u really make that $150 a day without fail?:oIo:

I will remember this middle finger of yours.
The purpose of this thread is to share and not to reign superiority on who is going to be right or wrong.
If you think it cannot be done, then it cannot be done. No point explain further as I don't think you will be keen to know.

richies become paupers(agreed but we are talking abt ppl betting with a system and not gamblers, we r toking abt investor in casino who know abt gaming)

I have seen many types of people from casino. Everyone have their way of gambling. If you created a nick here to share, you are very welcomed. But if your purpose here is to F people over how much they bets, then I think its better you spend the time gambling than to waste your time here. Don't you agree with what I say.

Anyway wish you the best of luck in your gambling endeavours.

 

[Natural Nine]

hengheng!!! C u there.

Hi SBK , how was your day at LW ?

i took the 11am ferry and the 8.30pm ferry back.

i made About S$500/- today...

my friend and i was at level 6th .

 

[Alibaba]

I am not here to argue but just to share again my FR at LW today.

Again, my stake range from $40 to $60. Been constantly betting these amounts but mostly $40. I can afford higher stake but I am still new to Bacarrat and hope to learn more thus never intend to raise stake yet.

So far my profit today is $800. Monday I also win $800. But today took me 3.5 hours + to achieve this amount.

I believe pros here got their likings on their preferred game. So long you can win money, that will be the best game for you.

In the past, I play Black Jack, Carribean stud poker, fruit machines. I never won a single cent.

After i come to this forum, I start to do research on Bacarrat and play on this. I have been playing Bacarrat for 8 times so far. So far so good. I wont comment as a sure win game. But to me, now is the best game.

What I benefitted from this forum is I have a set strategy and learn to discipline. And I only bet banker.

 

[silverfox@]

I am not here to argue but just to share again my FR at LW today.

Again, my stake range from $40 to $60. Been constantly betting these amounts but mostly $40. I can afford higher stake but I am still new to Bacarrat and hope to learn more thus never intend to raise stake yet.

So far my profit today is $800. Monday I also win $800. But today took me 3.5 hours + to achieve this amount.

What I benefitted from this forum is I have a set strategy and learn to discipline. And I only bet banker.

It's good to hear you winning.
A lot of gamblers do not seem to be able to see money even when they win. This is because when they win, they tend to spend it lavishly and when on a day they lose, they are losing their capital.

So its always good to have the discipline. And great to hear another convert in just on Banker.

 

[0939]

Hi SBK , how was your day at LW ?

i took the 11am ferry and the 8.30pm ferry back.

i made About S$500/- today...

my friend and i was at level 6th .

You spent about 8 hrs on the ship. How many hours do you bet on the table.
Do you have a target of your winnings and your losses. At time you may take a rest, what other activities in the ship beside casino. Do they allow you to roam around and not betting.

 

[0939]

I am not here to argue but just to share again my FR at LW today.

Again, my stake range from $40 to $60. Been constantly betting these amounts but mostly $40. I can afford higher stake but I am still new to Bacarrat and hope to learn more thus never intend to raise stake yet.

So far my profit today is $800. Monday I also win $800. But today took me 3.5 hours + to achieve this amount.

I believe pros here got their likings on their preferred game. So long you can win money, that will be the best game for you.

In the past, I play Black Jack, Carribean stud poker, fruit machines. I never won a single cent.

After i come to this forum, I start to do research on Bacarrat and play on this. I have been playing Bacarrat for 8 times so far. So far so good. I wont comment as a sure win game. But to me, now is the best game.

What I benefitted from this forum is I have a set strategy and learn to discipline. And I only bet banker.

You learned a lot from here. By betting $40 -60, you made $800 on each visit. Do you based on strategy by betting banker. Did you play every round on every shoe. Looks like you can make a living on casino.

 

[Alibaba]

No la, I am still far from able to make money visiting casino.

I am still at the learning stage. Every round I go, I see something different. Like yesterday, the table had 17 players streak with 1 Tie in between. But the entire 16 times I just sit and watch. Alot of people winning money. The aunty knows I only bet banker but kept telling me to try on players as this is a real opportunity. I just smile and say : nvm, since I dont bet already, I dont want to sink the ship, you guys win more. In fact I help them cheer too when player wins. Many a time, I want to place banker, but I dont want to go against a one sided crowd. Hard to explain, though I have 'miss' the golden opportunity to make more, I am however yesterday contented to what i made.

And yes, I stick to banker bet right from the beginning. I dont bet every game, when i place a bet will be banker. Of course I dont get it right everytime, I would say so far is 60% right.

Once I breed enough confident, I will increase my stake.

 

[rofthelper]

hmmm who is this bro rofthelper? ya went with emperor without any FL.keke

Dun worry, I'm your frd, not foe. :p

I know this emperor aka denden likes to go LJ one.

Saw him at Club 25 several times, but didn't meet up with you b4.

 

[skymud]

I started gambling real money with $100USD online today.
Currently $50 up. bets at $5

hey bro, which online casino you playing on? I want to practice a bit also

 

[silverfox@]

hey bro, which online casino you playing on? I want to practice a bit also

Many online casinos can open and close down. There are many on the internet where we can see that comes from China, off shore ones, US, UK sites.

China ones are like their dairy products, see can, try cannot. They have the most attractive bonus schemes and likely they are the fastest ones to cheat or con you.

Off shore ones have a problem of transferring the money back to you.

I only look at sites which have been in the market for many years and are reputable bookmakers in their own country. Also, they must do sports betting as well. That means to say I don't look at sites which just have casino alone.
In addition, I don't play online which uses RNG (Random Number Generator).

I only play with live feed web cam. Where they have a dealer who deals live being shown on webcam and they shuffle the deck when the cards are finished.

This concept I have played before in Thailand where can link up to Cambodia Poi Pet casinos and I just play baccarat with their dealer distributing cards. But they only allow Thai internet network to access. So if we are not in thailand, basically, we cannot play.

You can look at Ladbrokes or William Hill. These 2 have been around for very long and they do sports betting too.
However I think William Hill doesn't have Live feed.

And another thing is playing online casino, you must have a lot of discipline and its even more easily available than going to land casinos.
1 thing for me is I don't like to bet big when I first go to a casino. Because you only bet bigger and bigger when you win and you use the casino winnings to win them back. Not using your own money to win them.
Winning in casino is not just about using your own money.
It's an investment where you compound your returns and slowly increase your stakes when your capital gets bigger from the returns which are compounded from previous wins.
Furthermore even if the online casino is going to 'withhold' your money, they wouldn't hold much and initially if you win, you can draw a bit out slowly and you wouldn't incur much losses( that is provided you have been winning)

When the results in an online casino table don't go the way we want it, its easy to say they cheat. But on a land casino, such results that don't go our way is common to be seen.
Most important is always keep cool, don't get frustrated and play slowly, win slowly, snowball your earnings.

 

[rofthelper]

Many online casinos can open and close down. There are many on the internet where we can see that comes from China, off shore ones, US, UK sites.

Bro, can you share which online casinos you go? Can share the website? They accept our local credit cards? I used to have a ladbrokes and sportingbet account for years, but didn't use it since our credit cards can't be used.

I used to see my bro setting up accounts for locals here. Most of his websites are from macau and guangzhou. Some of the sites are quite impressive, but my bro says this sites are very "咸水" one. That's means punters very difficult to win from them.

 

[silverfox@]

Bro, can you share which online casinos you go? Can share the website? They accept our local credit cards? I used to have a ladbrokes and sportingbet account for years, but didn't use it since our credit cards can't be used.

I used to see my bro setting up accounts for locals here. Most of his websites are from macau and guangzhou. Some of the sites are quite impressive, but my bro says this sites are very "咸水" one. That's means punters very difficult to win from them.

Check your PM.

our local CCs cannot be accepted for online casinos. But these online casinos have a 3rd party proxy where we can tx funds over and from there tx to casino.

Example 3rd party such as moneybookers or paypal.

Never trust china sites. Difficult to win is one thing. Even land casinos also not easy to win:p
Most important thing is reputation and they don't close overnight or those that with-hold your money

 

[sohbuckkong]

Hi SBK , how was your day at LW ?

i took the 11am ferry and the 8.30pm ferry back.

i made About S$500/- today...

my friend and i was at level 6th .

Hi,
Yes, I last minute change my mind and go to Longjie instead because I guess longjie will be less crowded.

I was lucky, I made $2k but I must say that I do faced danger many times. Basically I played banker all the time but my stakes varies. I ride on the basic principle that eventually both banker and player will equalise at the end of the shoe. with these I therefore increase my bet progressively when losing for eg, after losing 5 times, I increase my bet.

Take note that the aircond in longjie is still not ok.

 

[sohbuckkong]

Always remember, the most difficult part in casino gambling is when losing, most of us get very impatient, emotional, and will eventually dump our stakes, thus losing everything.

I am not here to argue but just to share again my FR at LW today.

Again, my stake range from $40 to $60. Been constantly betting these amounts but mostly $40. I can afford higher stake but I am still new to Bacarrat and hope to learn more thus never intend to raise stake yet.

So far my profit today is $800. Monday I also win $800. But today took me 3.5 hours + to achieve this amount.

I believe pros here got their likings on their preferred game. So long you can win money, that will be the best game for you.

In the past, I play Black Jack, Carribean stud poker, fruit machines. I never won a single cent.

After i come to this forum, I start to do research on Bacarrat and play on this. I have been playing Bacarrat for 8 times so far. So far so good. I wont comment as a sure win game. But to me, now is the best game.

What I benefitted from this forum is I have a set strategy and learn to discipline. And I only bet banker.

 

[sohbuckkong]

.........what other activities in the ship beside casino. Do they allow you to roam around and not betting.

In Longjie, Leisure world, royal star and virgo , you can do whatever u want and you can go there everytime without gambling. No problem.

 

[Alibaba]

Hi,
Yes, I last minute change my mind and go to Longjie instead because I guess longjie will be less crowded.

I was lucky, I made $2k but I must say that I do faced danger many times. Basically I played banker all the time but my stakes varies. I ride on the basic principle that eventually both banker and player will equalise at the end of the shoe. with these I therefore increase my bet progressively when losing for eg, after losing 5 times, I increase my bet.

Take note that the aircond in longjie is still not ok.

Bros, just asking, players and bankers will equalise at end of shoe? Not always the case I saw. Especially yesterday, that shoe got 38 players 10 bankers.

Would it be better if a table say after 15 hands, players have about 10, then i start bet? That is what i presently do. I choose table with more players. Then I start state after observing on bankers.

 

[silverfox@]

Hi,
I ride on the basic principle that eventually both banker and player will equalise at the end of the shoe.

Bros, just asking, players and bankers will equalise at end of shoe? Not always the case I saw. Especially yesterday, that shoe got 38 players 10 bankers.

Would it be better if a table say after 15 hands, players have about 10, then i start bet? That is what i presently do. I choose table with more players. Then I start state after observing on bankers.

SBK goes by the basic principle that if player opens 60%, banker opens 40%, then eventually more bankers will appear to leverage to 50/50
Its like roulette if black opens more, then eventually red will open more. This is due to law of average.

Theoretically, it sounds logical. But because we are humans, we cannot be at a casino 24 hours a day, as we still have to eat and sleep and rest. So we can never know whether it happens.

Real life situations like what you have seen, a shoe can be very PLAYER intensive. The probability of a BANKER intensive shoe is slightly higher than a PLAYER intensive shoe. However because of Banker commission, the casino do not lose money.

Back to your question, if after 15 hands, 10 hands are banker, is it better to bet on Banker. I would say the next result is completely independent of the previous results. However, no one can ensure that after 15 hands, the next 10 hands that comes out, majority might still be PLAYERS.

I can summarise into 3 kinds of SHOES.

1. Banker intensive shoe.

2. Player intensive shoe.

3. Banker/Player equal shoe.

Most of the time if betting on Banker only, Player shoes will reduce the winnings from Banker shoes. And EQUAL shoes will just neutralise both sides.

For me, if I see a Player shoe, I will try my best to cut once I reach a certain point to minimise losses. No point go all the way thinking it will eventually be equal with Banker results.

And by reducing bets when you win and increasing bets when you lose with a cap point, if the Shoe is Banker/Player equal, you will still make money based on the turn of the thrend.
That means BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP.
If all bets are equal and just bet on Banker, commission will be lost.

But if you increase when you lose and reduce when you win.
B(+100)
P(-80)
B(+100)
P(-80)
B(+100)
P(-80)
B(+100)
P(-80)

You do some calculations, you will still make money. And even if BBPPBBPPPBBB, you still make money

That is why I emphasise before, winning I don't need to teach, because everyone knows. It's how to lose less so that it will not eat into what we win.