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silverfox@

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Since you asked nicely, the following is a well known case which got caught. This happened in 1999. Highly likely that somewhere out there, there have been groups that perfected the technique and never got caught.

Here´s basically how the team operated:
2 men worked as card counters. They began playing Mini-Baccarat, betting with low stakes and noting the cards played (this is a common enough practice in baccarat- nothing wrong in doing this as long as you can do it in your head).

When it was time to shuffle the deck, the Card Counters stopped betting and left the table. The dealer, also part of the team, set up a new shoe of cards, but shuffled in a pre ordained way, which gave other members of the team an edge against the house. Then 9 more players from the team sat down at the table. Because they knew the card order , they bet big on each hand – up to $3,000 on a hand and won more than $100,000.

Sorry to burst your bubble again. Since you said you been to Genting malaysia and I am not sure whether you notice how mini baccarat and baccarat are being run.

Please tell us how are the cards being shuffled in Mini Baccarat in Genting?

If you don't know the answer, you can ask me, I will tell you and everyone.

1999 scam. Oh my. Now is already year 2010. Modern day baccarat play don't have such flaws you stated.
 

aurvandil

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Please tell us how are the cards being shuffled in Mini Baccarat in Genting?

wah ... scared scared ...grand master showing off kung fu.

If you need to impress everyone that you know eveything, please don't let me stop you. Please impress us with what you know.

[muttering] ... might don't even know the difference btw an auto-shuffler and a continous shufller ... hehehe
 

silverfox@

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wah ... scared scared ...grand master showing off kung fu.

If you need to impress everyone that you know eveything, please don't let me stop you. Please impress us with what you know.

[muttering] ... might don't even know the difference btw an auto-shuffler and a continous shufller ... hehehe

Modern day mini-baccarat tables have machine shufflers to shuffle 8 decks thoroughly. Alternating between 2 big packs of 8 deck cards. So the example you are telling us is not feasible.
 

aurvandil

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Modern day mini-baccarat tables have machine shufflers to shuffle 8 decks thoroughly. Alternating between 2 big packs of 8 deck cards. So the example you are telling us is not feasible.

clap...clap ... impressed

Do you know if it is an auto or a continous shuffler? Also what is the difference between the 2?
 

sohbuckkong

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Cheating and scams are very different from having a system that can win the casinos.


aurvandil;...............[b said:
Baccarat Scam- How the Card Cheats Got Caught Red Handed[/b]

................and up to 5 years in the slammer. Ouch.
 

aurvandil

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Cheating and scams are very different from having a system that can win the casinos.

Very true. Hence my original posting that for baccarat and roulette, there is no known, statistically proven system that can consistently beat the casino. The only way to beat these two games consistently is to cheat.
 

sohbuckkong

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On the contrary, Baccarat whales can send casinos in the red if they bet very big.

..........write.

Yes these Baccarat whales can sent red cards to these casinos but if they cannot stop gambling then its just a matter of time these whales will be swallowed by sharks and crocodiles.

Its very difficult to beat the casinos because its very difficult, by the law of chance and average, to guess more than 50% correct out of a 50% / 50% game of chance such as baccarat.

To all gamblers : I am intending to go Macau and zhuhai at the first week of october 2010, basically this trip is to hope to win in macau and then spent the money in zhuhai etc..... If you are interested to join me, then pm me. Thanks
 

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jjcc88

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Thanks Kia0042 for the link !

A quick glance shows that it's more of an american slot forum tho' - not a 'localised' one - but can get wider exposure/knowledge too :biggrin:

Guess we should start a new Slot Thread here for easy reading/posting/sharing/etc .....
If we continue to post in this thread, quite hard as mixed into the "non-slot posts"
 

volcanolee

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Thanks Kia0042 for the link !

A quick glance shows that it's more of an american slot forum tho' - not a 'localised' one - but can get wider exposure/knowledge too :biggrin:

Guess we should start a new Slot Thread here for easy reading/posting/sharing/etc .....
If we continue to post in this thread, quite hard as mixed into the "non-slot posts"

i agreed but maybe active participant will not be that much tho
 

silverfox@

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clap...clap ... impressed

Do you know if it is an auto or a continous shuffler? Also what is the difference between the 2?

Blackjack tables in Genting Malaysia, Genting SP, MBS uses this
one2six shuffler.
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_mdc/one2six.asp

Mini Baccarat tables uses another machine similar to
MD2
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_mdb/md_2.asp

When the cards are shuffled, all are covered up.

The auto shuffler you talk about I think you still travelling on leisureworld which can be bought cheaply from shops in singapore. :wink:
 

Thatenough

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Blackjack tables in Genting Malaysia, Genting SP, MBS uses this
one2six shuffler.
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_mdc/one2six.asp

Mini Baccarat tables uses another machine similar to
MD2
http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products/shufflers/shufflers_mdb/md_2.asp

When the cards are shuffled, all are covered up.

The auto shuffler you talk about I think you still travelling on leisureworld which can be bought cheaply from shops in singapore. :wink:

Bro SF well said and explained on above thumbs up...:smile:
 

Thatenough

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Very true. Hence my original posting that for baccarat and roulette, there is no known, statistically proven system that can consistently beat the casino. The only way to beat these two games consistently is to cheat.

As mentioned in the quote, if winning consistently means cheating how about losing consistently ?
 

balajii

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i am a millionnaire but i do not gamble. work smart for $. do not be like some who gamble away fortune and need to run away from home.
 

Thatenough

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wah ... scared scared ...grand master showing off kung fu.

If you need to impress everyone that you know eveything, please don't let me stop you. Please impress us with what you know.

[muttering] ... might don't even know the difference btw an auto-shuffler and a continous shufller ... hehehe

Although i am a newbie in this forum, the information and experience provided by bro SF is valuable and true life reality.

I understand and much appreciated on the details shared.

Above quote and previous quote shows that you are getting too personal.

i am not very impressed by your words and there is no need for everyone including myself to show off anything.

This forum is to share info and not getting into personal conflict.
 

Thatenough

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i am a millionnaire but i do not gamble. work smart for $. do not be like some who gamble away fortune and need to run away from home.

Thumbs up and well said

You never know when you are poor again.

Disclipined and calm is the way to maintain or increase your wealth.
 

dragon

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1 lucky man won the 3rd Lamborghini this afternoon at the 3Lions slot machine in the smoking area at RWS!!!

it created a small crowd, i took a peek and went over and shake his lucky hand and saw
"game delayed..." on the main screen &
“Congratulations, you have won the Lamborghini!” the message flash across the small screen!!!
within 5mins, he was escorted away to claim his prize!!!

the lucky handshake brought me luck! Thanks bro! Hope u make good use of the $$$ :biggrin:
 
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