Casino gambling fall in here!!!

[silverfox@]

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Thk for the example. using the same logic the croupier

can also "pay-out" more to his "friends" say eg $50 more each time...

paying out more could be genuine mistake. Sometimes they don't really bother if it goes undetected. It happened on a couple of occasions especially in new casinos with new croupiers or even tired croupiers. But if the pit manager receives a call and said there is a wrong payout and we have to return the extra winnings, just ask them explain why. If you return like this means you know they gave you extra but you keep quiet.

 

[BCR101]

paying out more could be genuine mistake. Sometimes they don't really bother if it goes undetected. It happened on a couple of occasions especially in new casinos with new croupiers or even tired croupiers. But if the pit manager receives a call and said there is a wrong payout and we have to return the extra winnings, just ask them explain why. If you return like this means you know they gave you extra but you keep quiet.

chances of more payout more likely at roulette ...

 

[BCR101]

2. Bros can you share here what are some of
the ways casinos can "cheat" the punters ???

They will change dealer.

i think as much as we must know the game well at casino

in order to win we must also be at least aware

why casino do certain things in certain way in various

games ... One thing is for sure ... they are not doing

it so that gamblers can win more or doing it

to help the gamblers' luck ...

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Slots I really don't know how to play :o

I haven't play livefeed for a while already. Because streaming was very slow at certain times during the night till I gave up.

If a person place $50 bet and wins around $200, its considered good and should leave. If he place $300 bet and wins around $1500, its considered very good too and should leave the casino a winner. That's why in most cases, its not how long you stay in the casino that makes you win more. It's how much you are betting and how much bankroll you are using.

The sickening part is we start procrastinating why we should have left the casino earlier when we are on a winning run and instead wait to lose all.

I normally play like this. If I play and result is lose win lose win lose win, about an hour, I will leave already. If I play and result is lose lose lose, about an hour or about 30-40% is lost whichever comes first, I will also leave the casino. If I play and result is on a winning run, I will stop only when the winning run stops and then leave the casino.

Not hao lian...

one occasion I entered RWS with only $200 cash chips thinking playing Non-Commission Baccarat (min $25) near stage for fun only.

I played on I progessed to min $200 tables in smoking area ended up walking away with $3k nett winning with half a day.

That best performance so far... of course I did have losing streak too

 

[rofthelper]

Recently a croupier called my friend up. (Not naming which casino). He said how about collaboration with my friend on roulette where he will be on duty on certain days beforehand and tell us to go down. He will spin to the sector for us to win. Success rate is about 70%. Upon winning have to split winnings with croupier. Actually this is wrong and if caught can get banned from casinos.

This is also why in roulette game play, they are very suspicious of heavy bets and croupiers are rotated. But no matter how they rotate, each croupier still has to stay a certain time on that table.

Not worth the risk to collaborate with him. I mean how long can you actually cooperate with him? Not for very long. In long run, the surveillance cameras will spot the "patterns", the alleged croupier will be jailed and banned while your frd will be in the "ban list" in worldwide casinos.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

As to say use winning $ to win more $....

Bro HBK, I agree manz!

Now a changed man, I will go home if I win $3k excluding of capital. I will return later or other day with this 3k only. To use this to win more $$.

Now I observed now you into slots?

No more blackjacks or pontoon?

Blackjacks results in some casinos can be fixed using high-tech shuffling machines exp those in private rooms.
So no more Blackjacks or Pontoon for me

Ya bro roft, now I am learning to play slot machines in RWS or MBS. Jackpot payout is better than roulette.

 

[GramStroker]

How can changing of dealer affect you or stop your winnings? Don't be superstitious lah, bro. It's casino's rotation policy to change dealer a certain period of time so that they can have ample rest or move to another table.

I wonder why ppl always stake "TIE" when there is a change of dealer in baccarat. it is just coincidence that it happen to open TIE game.

Bro it's not superstition. Though it's nothing to be proud of, but since 97, when i started visiting Crown Melbourne regularly, I've seen this tactic more than enough to my liking. But the big con is the member card, points and upgrade. This is by far the most deadly weapon in a casino's arsenal. And MBS has got this absolutely spot on coupled with sky high parking charges.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

How can changing of dealer affect you or stop your winnings? Don't be superstitious lah, bro. It's casino's rotation policy to change dealer a certain period of time so that they can have ample rest or move to another table.

I wonder why ppl always stake "TIE" when there is a change of dealer in baccarat. it is just coincidence that it happen to open TIE game.

Counters can count TIE. Baccarat don't use shufflers. 8 deck cards as more and more cards come out, serious counters can count the percentage of which number cards are likely to come out after 30-40 hands of baccarat play. Once the percentage is higher than normal vs the payout, these people will buy TIE.

Not profitable technically to count & bet on TIE here 8 to 1. Buying PAIRS is a better option which I think so.

In San Jose USA card houses, TIE pay 10 to 1 also no one bet on it.

 

[GramStroker]

A round of average 75, tie games less than 10%

 

[rofthelper]

Hi all,

as what bro silver shared earlier ...

if he goes in its "win , win , win then he will stay until it breaks"

simething like that.

Casinos have also study historical trend/ punter psychology of

winning and losing ....

Casino can "cheat" us "legally" very simply by

changing and or will try to change our winning pattern to

a losing pattern ... change dealer is one of it

Since you said Casinos "cheat" us "legally" by changing dealers, you can move to the next tables. :p

 

[BCR101]

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Bro it's not superstition. Though it's nothing to be proud of, but since 97, when i started visiting Crown Melbourne regularly, I've seen this tactic more than enough to my liking. But the big con is the member card, points and upgrade. This is by far the most deadly weapon in a casino's arsenal. And MBS has got this absolutely spot on coupled with sky high parking charges.

Bro the majority of gamblers mentality is that when

they are in the casino ( they will not pay attention to

all these periheral things that casino are doing )

, the chinese has a saying that when got chance to gamble

one will forget and foregone all other things ...

How true ...


i am trying to avoid going to casinos already ...


it is hard to believe that casinos will do

things , anything , if i were to tell you today ...

that they are doing it for your good luck so that you

can win more from them ...

 

[Heart Break Kid]

A round of average 75, tie games less than 10%

Pointless to aim on TIE & hope its happen because payout is too little for that.

Find opportunity on BANKER or PLAYER dragons which is better.

Play Baccarat cannot be stubborn

 

[Heart Break Kid]

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Bro the majority of gamblers mentality is that when

they are in the casino ( they will not pay attention to

all these periheral things that casino are doing )

, the chinese has a saying that when got chance to gamble

one will forget and foregone all other things ...

How true ...


i am trying to avoid going to casinos already ...


it is hard to believe that casinos will do

things , anything , if i were to tell you today ...

that they are doing it for your good luck so that you

can win more from them ...

Bro, casino gambling can only be moderate & take it like entertainment.
We are actually paying for these games & the salaries of the dealers & pit bosses.

Just like we cheong KTV ... we are paying the KTV girls, mama-sans & nightclub bosses for entertainment.

 

[BCR101]

Bro, casino gambling can only be moderate & take it like entertainment.
We are actually paying for these games & the salaries of the dealers & pit bosses.

Just like we cheong KTV ... we are paying the KTV girls, mama-sans & nightclub bosses for entertainment.

Bro , you just gave a very good example parellel ...

very good one ...

i rest my case ...


Heng Heng to all bros , sis here ...

 

[GramStroker]

Exactly. I have a friend who's happy to lose 1 or 2k everytime he goes to MBS. A night at Tiananmen incurs about the same cost. His rationale, nett result at the end of it is the same, walking out drunk.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Exactly. I have a friend who's happy to lose 1 or 2k everytime he goes to MBS. A night at Tiananmen incurs about the same cost. His rationale, nett result at the end of it is the same, walking out drunk.

The only difference between casino gambling & Havelock nightclubs is in cheonging TAM KTV is money spent is consider a sunk cost. But in MBS there is still possibility of your friend walking out as a winner than in TAM.

 

[rofthelper]

Bro it's not superstition. Though it's nothing to be proud of, but since 97, when i started visiting Crown Melbourne regularly, I've seen this tactic more than enough to my liking. But the big con is the member card, points and upgrade. This is by far the most deadly weapon in a casino's arsenal. And MBS has got this absolutely spot on coupled with sky high parking charges.

Bro, "changing dealer" tactic is seen almost everywhere in asia. I'm not so sure on Australia casinos as that time I went, I only play blackjack that I know many years back. Ya, membership perks, freebies and VVIP treatments are some of the privileges that casinos offer to make gamblers feel "high" and pampered. :p

 

[rofthelper]

A round of average 75, tie games less than 10%

If the stats is as above, not profitable to stake TIE liao if TIE appeared less than 10%. Even if it appeared 10% or 8 TIES, you still lose.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

If the stats is as above, not profitable to stake TIE liao if TIE appeared less than 10%. Even if it appeared 10% or 8 TIES, you still lose.

Most of the shoes I had seen is average of 4 to 5 TIE per shoe.

Very few shoes I had seen 9 to 10 TIE per shoe.

Occasion side bet on PAIRS is still ok ..... 11 to 1

 

[theblackhole]

...You would want to continue the winning run till its end

I hit the $3K too early! That was also a tragic thing! Continued and then lost rapidly life a fiery inferno..

Very difficult to run when you hit the target too early and too easily...I knew the spinner had changed...and I continued to bleed! Never learn!