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Feb 5, 2010
Online joke turns nasty
Offended by the racist postings of three youths, he reported the incident
By Chua Hian Hou

The Internet is a convenient medium of expression but one is still accountable for actions online, said police. -- ST PHOTO ILLUSTRATION: WANG HUI FEN

WHEN full-time national serviceman Prhabagaran joined a Facebook discussion on the things parents do to frighten their children into behaving, he expected to be amused.

Instead, he was offended to find remarks being made about Indians. He felt some of the comments were racist, and made a police report on Jan 31.

On Wednesday, police said three Chinese youths aged between 17 and 18 had been arrested for sedition and were out on bail while investigations continued.

They are believed to have been involved in the postings on the Facebook discussion site, which drew more than 2,000 members in two weeks.

An avid Facebook user, Mr Prhabagaran told The Straits Times that he found a Jan 29 post by someone calling himself Desmond Tan especially offensive for the things said about Indians. Mr Prhabagaran, who uses the moniker 'Prab Nathan' online, said: 'It started to hit me that what could have started as a joke had become mindless, point-blank racism.'

He and other members - including those with Chinese names - ticked off 'Desmond Tan' and others who had put up offensive posts, but to no avail.

Read the full story in Friday's edition of The Straits Times.

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elephanto

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Sedition Charge Used Again ?!

I read with some shock the news that 3 Chinese boys are arrested then released on bail, charged with Sedition Act for making racist remarks on Facebook.

At first, I thought 'Chinese' as in from China. FT none of my business.

On closer examination, oh my, Singapore boys of Chinese race, aged around 15-17.

I have no sympathy for immature teenagers on Facebook. I also have no knowledge of what incendiary racial remarks were made.

The gist of it is : started with discussion of what parents say to scare children when they are young (remember those ah-neh bogeyman warnings?), one thing led to another, then 1 powderful racist post, next a Nathan guy threaten to make police report, then report made, post traced, boys identified & arrested.

My shock and concern is in : where does one cross the line from harmless self-depreciating jokes on race into the dark area of rabid racism ?

Is Political Correctness, the infamous 'PC' at work again?

I have read terrible racist expressions at 3in1 kopitiam & here from some regulars who even have monikers like 'yellow people' etc.

Some are harmless rantings, some are witty puns & rhymns on the sound of 'Singh' & 'Ba-iology' & some are crude racial expletives.

If like Nathan, every politically correct pygmy were to go make police reports, won't the mata be very busy?

If 'childhood warning of ah-nehs & kelings' can eventually lead to arrest, what about all the Singh jokes that even I have contributed a thing or two ?

Bloody humorless Political Correctness !
 

Highfalutin

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Re: Sedition Charge Used Again ?!

An Indian, a lawyer and a snake is coming at you. You have only two bullets. Use them well!
 

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As i put it before,if these bloody indians step on my toe again,i assure you that we will shed blood!
 

cheekenpie

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Would Mr Prhabagaran care to make another report? Or he also don like bangla?

http://holly--jean.blogspot.com/2010/02/banglah-hits-on-me.html
Wednesday, February 03, 2010
Banglah Hits On ME ???!!!!
You know what?

I was at Loyang Point a few days ago having dinner with mom. Then she went to Sheng Song supermarket (or how ever you spell it). There is this luckydraw at the bottom of every receipt. My mom passed it to me, and told me to fill it in and put it into the box.

I made some noise and sulky face, cos I think this is a waste of time, I did it once looong ago and didn't win so I think it's bullshit. Anywayyyy... that's not the point.

I filled it out while standing at the lucky draw box, using the corner of the lucky draw box as a table to write. And I was scribbling DAMN FAST... Because I think it's such an aunty thing to do; fill out sheng song supermarket lucky draw forms (!), so I was embarassed and wrote very quickly.

I did notice a few Bagladeshi workers because they were standing too close for comfort. But I just ignored them. Banglahs always have a knack for walking too close by, staring as if they've never seen women before or getting in your personal space.

So I dropped the lucky draw into the box. It's a transparent box, and the hole on top is damn big, like... I can squeeze my head in if I wanted to.

After that, I walked hurriedly to the taxi stand because my mom as usual, walked off to the taxi stand after asking me to do something (in this instance, it was to fill in the lucky draw form). I was probably in a grumpy mood by the way, cos I hate it when she expects me to be freaking Flash Gordon.

While walking to the taxi stand, my phone rings. I yank it out of my pocket "Hello?"... but nobody answers. I dive into the waiting taxi. I forget about the anonymous phone call.

Ok fast forward my story. Today, I get this SMS:

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The whole SMS reads: "Hi how r u now? Please u dont angry to me . Because yester day u writing time I see u & take your number. U also see me ready . U come from? R u married? I know u very beautyful girl. Please u dont wrong understand me. I hope u happy & longlive."

At first I thought, WTF, English is horrible. And I thought it was a wrong number. Then I read it again, and it dawned on me that it was one of the Banglahs at Loyang Point who either had bionic eyes and managed to memorise my number as I scribbled it super fast, or he fished my lucky draw coupon out. Which is not entirely impossible, since its a transparent box, and you can keep your eye on where the paper lands.

That paper has not just my phone number but my address too!

But I don't think he's any danger.

I'm just very very peeved that this bagladeshi construction worker who hardly speaks english, smells of 3 day old sweat, holds other Bangla men's hands, thinks he has a shot with me!!!! *indignant shriek*

Reminds me of this one not great looking (i got to be careful not to just call people ugly while using a public domain, lest some very anal people go on and on about me being shallow, blah blah)...(haha)... so yes, this not great looking chinese man who lives somewhere in my block, chatted me up while in the lift. I mean, I smile at most people who are in my block/lift... but that's just being friendly.. it's not an invitation to try to bed me or something right?!

Yeah, well, he had very yellow teeth and bad breath too. And he asked for my number (!), and I POLITELY declined. "No, I don't think it's a good idea, sorry."

But he persisted, "I seldom bumps into u, so if got your number can just call mah."

And I said , " but I have a BF".

And the fucker still didn't get the message, " Nevermind we go drink only mah."

Seriously dude, WTF? Go brush your teeth, and go hit on some girl that's in your league. Say perhaps the woman who serves you Tiger at the coffeeshop. I'm not even interested in being your friend.

And when a girl doesn't want to give you her number, she's not interested! Getting her number with the intention of pestering her, isn't going to do you any favours. So just leave it.

I am not worried that he might read this, because he didn't look like he knew how to switch a computer on, much less own one. Yes, it was THAT bad.
Forever, Holly Jean at 12:55 PM
 
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Re: Sedition Charge Used Again ?!

Anyone have access to Facebook & know a little more details of how severe the racist remarks are that warrant an arrest ?

So we can get some pointers to know where the OB markers are. Thks !

P.S. Highfalutin, the answer is 3in1 - the lawyer is the snake is the ... so 2 bullets overkill lah !
 

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If FT indians in Spore dont complain so much, racism wouldnt even exist. Then again, its easier to take a snake out of a jungle than to take a jungle out of a snake. The snake's nature is always forked tongued & the do the twist even better than Chubby Checker.
 
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Mr Prhabagaran has done the right thing, I wish there will be more courageous Singaporean like him stand up for justice. I proposed jail imprisonment and corporal punishment for these 3 chinese youth.. btw I am also chinese
 

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Re: Sedition Charge Used Again ?!

I read with some shock the news that 3 Chinese boys are arrested then released on bail, charged with Sedition Act for making racist remarks on Facebook.

At first, I thought 'Chinese' as in from China. FT none of my business.

On closer examination, oh my, Singapore boys of Chinese race, aged around 15-17.

I have no sympathy for immature teenagers on Facebook. I also have no knowledge of what incendiary racial remarks were made.

The gist of it is : started with discussion of what parents say to scare children when they are young (remember those ah-neh bogeyman warnings?), one thing led to another, then 1 powderful racist post, next a Nathan guy threaten to make police report, then report made, post traced, boys identified & arrested.

My shock and concern is in : where does one cross the line from harmless self-depreciating jokes on race into the dark area of rabid racism ?

Is Political Correctness, the infamous 'PC' at work again?

I have read terrible racist expressions at 3in1 kopitiam & here from some regulars who even have monikers like 'yellow people' etc.

Some are harmless rantings, some are witty puns & rhymns on the sound of 'Singh' & 'Ba-iology' & some are crude racial expletives.

If like Nathan, every politically correct pygmy were to go make police reports, won't the mata be very busy?

If 'childhood warning of ah-nehs & kelings' can eventually lead to arrest, what about all the Singh jokes that even I have contributed a thing or two ?

Bloody humorless Political Correctness !

What to do? Police no standard, can only catch people on FB and Stomp.
 

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Mr Prhabagaran has done the right thing, I wish there will be more courageous Singaporean like him stand up for justice. I proposed jail imprisonment and corporal punishment for these 3 chinese youth.. btw I am also chinese

To make the culprits fully appreciative of the unique indian culture, might as well force them to embrace Indian oddities like holding hands between males, complain at anything & everything, shake head (L to R vigourously in agreement). what else did i missed?
 

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It's really sickening to see people making fun of people of another ethnicity.

People are the same no matter what their ethnicity. People must be treated as people, no matter what ethnicity.
 

elephanto

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Thks Highfalutin, for starting a similar thread as mine BUT with more details.

Good. I am still trying to know WHAT exactly did the Chinese boys post that warrants the Sedition Act ?

Otherwise, Ron Ron can just report some of the common but arguably racist remarks here, and we are all done for !

But has Ron Ron the balls or the wisdom ? :smile: sorry just baiting !
 

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We must be polite and courteous toward each other. Living in perfect harmony. Just curse and swear inside your heart. What a wonderful world we live in.
 
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