Cantonese vs Vietnamese Language

[eErotica69]

I'm Cantonese and I speak very fluent Cantonese since young. I always think that Vietnamese lanaguage sound very much like Cantonese. Whenever I hear someone speaking a language that sound very much like Cantonese but I don't understand a thing, then it must be Vietnamese!

Listen to these 2 sounds and the arguements over Youtube!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTL4aDXgaY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rROgBhDN9H8&feature=related

What you reckon?



eErotica69696969696969

 

[Sideswipe]

from a non-cantonese speaker, I agree that Cantonese and Vietnamese sound the same.

a new language/dialect is difficult to learn. But you can basically understand and speak the language by just listening to people speak it everyday and alternatively you might not understand let alone speak a language if you try learning it the classroom way.

My parents speak Hokkien and I understand and speak Hokkien despite my parents never speaking a word of the dialect to me. You just pick up the language naturally when u heard peoples speak it everyday.

 

[VIBGYOR]

maybe because they are neighbours?

 

[MentisMortis]

I'm Cantonese and I speak very fluent Cantonese since young. I always think that Vietnamese lanaguage sound very much like Cantonese. Whenever I hear someone speaking a language that sound very much like Cantonese but I don't understand a thing, then it must be Vietnamese!

Listen to these 2 sounds and the arguements over Youtube!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTL4aDXgaY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rROgBhDN9H8&feature=related

What you reckon?



eErotica69696969696969

Hi 69,

You are right. Most Viets can trace their roots to Guangdong. The rest of the language is made up of French words that have been simplified.

Cheers,

MentisMortis

 

[Ah Guan]

Actually I share a similar opinion as yours... except to me it sounds Hainanese

Thought I overheard an old man speak Hainanese at the Star Casino years ago and sneaked closer to listen... then realised he was speaking Vietnamese

It's no surprise since Hainan Island and Vietnam are so close

 

[0939]

Those Vietnamese refugees during the late 70s were Cantonese when I encountered during one of my diving trips in Pulau Permangir next to P. Tioman. I saw first hand account of the refugees on the boat. The boat was slightlly bigger than our tongkang,
there were easily more than 100 starving and skinny people covered with blankets. They were begging for water and spoke to us in Cantonese. I have never fogotten the plight of these people.

 

[newyorker88]

Those Vietnamese refugees during the late 70s were Cantonese when I encountered during one of my diving trips in Pulau Permangir next to P. Tioman. I saw first hand account of the refugees on the boat. The boat was slightlly bigger than our tongkang,
there were easily more than 100 starving and skinny people covered with blankets. They were begging for water and spoke to us in Cantonese. I have never fogotten the plight of these people.

KNN, you will never forget how singapore gov treated these people who travel close to singapore. They were towed out to the open seas. No help or anything given to them.

Down in Batam, about 1 hour trip, link by bridges to an island named Galang, there you see many housing of former Viet refugees. They settled there for a number of years before they were forcefully removed again.

Do a google on galang, viet, you see more info.

 

[blueblobster]

I'm Cantonese and I speak very fluent Cantonese since young. I always think that Vietnamese lanaguage sound very much like Cantonese. Whenever I hear someone speaking a language that sound very much like Cantonese but I don't understand a thing, then it must be Vietnamese!

Listen to these 2 sounds and the arguements over Youtube!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTL4aDXgaY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rROgBhDN9H8&feature=related

What you reckon?



eErotica69696969696969

It's definitely NOT true that Vietnamese is derived from Cantonese or simplified French. I'm Cantonese and I've been working and living in Vietnam for years.

Many Vietnamese words ARE indeed derived from Cantonese, e.g. thank you, hotel, university, student, traffic, hotpot, soy sauce, etc, etc. But the language as a whole is incomprehensible if you try to figure it out using Cantonese. Unless you speak it since young, it's very difficult to pronounce Vietnamese words properly. Vietnamese has 6 tones and Cantonese has 8.

There are however many Vietnamese Chinese who mainly speak Cantonese albeit with a weird accent. In Chinatown, most signboards are in Chinese and you can converse with most of them in Cantonese although you may still have some problem understanding them because the accent is very different from what we are used to.

Cheers

 

[HTOLAS]

I'm Cantonese and I speak very fluent Cantonese since young. I always think that Vietnamese lanaguage sound very much like Cantonese. Whenever I hear someone speaking a language that sound very much like Cantonese but I don't understand a thing, then it must be Vietnamese!

The southern territories that now make up Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan and even Fujian were the last to come under Chinese sovereignty and occupied by the Han race. This is incidentally why southerners call themselves Tang (a later dynasty than the Han) people rather than Han people.

Before conquest by the Han Chinese, these regions were occupied by peoples such as the Yue (Viet) who later mixed with the ethnic Hans. The resulting languages are probably what we call Cantonese (several very distinct varieties including the Xinning that my father spoke), Hainanese, Hokkien, etc.

Not only do these languages often sound like Vietnamese, they also share grammatical and lexical features with that language as well. Indeed, the southern 'dialects' have more similarities with Vietnamese than they do with the northern dialects in many cases.

 

[travelbug]

KNN, you will never forget how singapore gov treated these people who travel close to singapore. They were towed out to the open seas. No help or anything given to them.

Down in Batam, about 1 hour trip, link by bridges to an island named Galang, there you see many housing of former Viet refugees. They settled there for a number of years before they were forcefully removed again.

Do a google on galang, viet, you see more info.

How times have changed! Witness PAP open arms now to Viets to take up PRs & then Spore citizenship & the large no of Viet students at our local unis. Compared this to what Old Fart Lee said about Viets in the early 80's when he said he would engage vessels to tow those boat people out of Spore waters!

 

[eErotica69]

How times have changed! Witness PAP open arms now to Viets to take up PRs & then Spore citizenship & the large no of Viet students at our local unis. Compared this to what Old Fart Lee said about Viets in the early 80's when he said he would engage vessels to tow those boat people out of Spore waters!

Times changes mah. In the 70s, US and Vietnam were war enemies and lots of yankees got kill in Vietnam. Now the are friends and trading partners!

This thread is to discuss about Cantonese language and Vietnam and not "attack PAP on any f**k thing" thread.

:(

 

[tonychat]

Viet girls are so cute,

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1AsdFyFYGlM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1AsdFyFYGlM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

 

[eErotica69]

Here we go.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rROgBhDN9H8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[eatshitndie]

test the difference with your dick on both canto-speaking and viet-speaking women. you can finish the bang with a canto woman while she's yapping and gasping away. but it's extremely "hard" to finish it with a yapping and gasping viet woman. raiders should know. :p

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

test the difference with your dick on both canto-speaking and viet-speaking women. you can finish the bang with a canto woman while she's yapping and gasping away. but it's extremely "hard" to finish it with a yapping and gasping viet woman. raiders should know. :p

huh? why ah?

 

[Semaj2357]

huh? why ah?

perhaps the canto woman goes straight to the point...chou meh kum marn ah, faiti-ler - sei chai korn , whereas the vietbu goes about it in a roundabout manner trying to string these same words together

 

[eatshitndie]

perhaps the canto woman goes straight to the point...chou meh kum marn ah, faiti-ler - sei chai korn , whereas the vietbu goes about it in a roundabout manner trying to string these same words together

bingo! hahahahahaha!

 

[Semaj2357]

Those Vietnamese refugees during the late 70s were Cantonese when I encountered during one of my diving trips in Pulau Permangir next to P. Tioman. I saw first hand account of the refugees on the boat. The boat was slightlly bigger than our tongkang, there were easily more than 100 starving and skinny people covered with blankets. They were begging for water and spoke to us in Cantonese. I have never fogotten the plight of these people.

but we did right by them, never caving in to temptation by their vast amounts of precious metals and provided them with food, water and navigation aids to Christmas island before they left the camp. Along came the fucking Indonesian bastards (haze notwithstanding) who relieved them of their gold and used their women - in essence, the viets were literally fucked, twice over!

 

[Force 136]

For 1000 years Vietnam was under Chinese rule ( 200 BC to 900 AD). They were considered an integral part of China.

Had they not been given independence from China, they would have been another Chinese dialect group.....

Anyone who practises Han culture is considered Han, as "Chinese-ness" is defined by culture, not only genetics. Thats why DNA studies reveals that Southern Chinese Genes are different from Northern Chinese genes. Southern Chinese are genetically closer to the Vietnamese than their Northern cousins....

In simple words - Cantonese people are actually a mix of Han and Yueh (Viet)......

Culturally, the Viets share a similar culture with the Chinese. We even share similar Surnames..... meaning we are all related if you trace our ancestry back far enough.......

 

[Sinkie]

No way...I watched the videos and because I know both languages, obviously I'm bias, but no way. Both are so different.