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In that case, La Pavoni is better ?
It's not better. It's just a comparison between super and semi automatic. A semi automatic is easier to maintain.

You have to check online reviews on the quality of the boiler. A copper boiler will heat up faster and, likewise, lose heat faster compared to stainless steel boiler.
 

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It's not better. It's just a comparison between super and semi automatic. A semi automatic is easier to maintain.

You have to check online reviews on the quality of the boiler. A copper boiler will heat up faster and, likewise, lose heat faster compared to stainless steel boiler.
If I see any coffee shop go bankrupt , I want to approach the owner to 便宜 便宜 买他的 coffee machine
 

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Jin expensive no wonder your mentor 看你不爽,天天骂你
There is a V5 model which is cheaper.

Anything semi auto you buy, just make sure there is a proper boiler inside, and not some heating element like your instant water heater.

My mentor 天天骂我 is fake. She doesn't know how to start a proper conversation with the opposite sex. So she scolds a person in order to provoke a response.
 

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There is a V5 model which is cheaper.

Anything semi auto you buy, just make sure there is a proper boiler inside, and not some heating element like your instant water heater.

My mentor 天天骂我 is fake. She doesn't know how to start a proper conversation with the opposite sex. So she scolds a person in order to provoke a response.
Thank you sir

 

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Dear @NanoSpeed did u say that the coffee boiler (not instant type) must be made of copper ? Aluminium ok ?
Copper or stainless steel.

If you drink on and off, and you don't keep the machine on for most of the time like a café does, then copper is suitable as it heat up fast and you switch off after you have had your coffee.

For business, stainless steel will maintain the heat of water better than copper, and the machine will do less re-boiling and save electricity.
 

JurongEast

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Copper or stainless steel.

If you drink on and off, and you don't keep the machine on for most of the time like a café does, then copper is suitable as it heat up fast and you switch off after you have had your coffee.

For business, stainless steel will maintain the heat of water better than copper, and the machine will do less re-boiling and save electricity.
This one ok ?

 

NanoSpeed

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This one ok ?

Gaggia made too many cheap super automatic machines. In other words, they want everything.

This particular model seems to use aluminium boiler. Gaggia is a brand that I will not touch.

For super-automatic, I pick Jura. For semi-automatic, Rancilio or Breville. Breville has a pretty sleek design.
 

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Breville Dual Boiler, not cheapo thermo coil.

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Dear @NanoSpeed what is dual boiler and PID ? Coffee machine is a bit complicated to me. I only own Nespresso machine and it is now spoil after more than 10yrs of regular usage.

Nespresso capsules are expensive and I am thinking to buy a machine and to save some money some money, ultimately coffee beans are cheaper than coffee capsules
 

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Dear @NanoSpeed what is dual boiler and PID ? Coffee machine is a bit complicated to me. I only own Nespresso machine and it is now spoil after more than 10yrs of regular usage.

Nespresso capsules are expensive and I am thinking to buy a machine and to save some money some money, ultimately coffee beans are cheaper than coffee capsules
KNN, you really think I'm Mr Know-It-All ah ? :confused:

Dual-boiler means there are 2 separate boilers, one for brewing the other for steaming. PID sounds more kinky - Pre-Infusion Delay. That means if the machine is 9 bar it will not immediately use 9-bar pressure to pump the water into the coffee basket. Instead, it will use something like 5-bar pressure to "wet" the coffee powder in the basket and soak them for say 5 seconds before it starts pumping 9-bar pressure to extract the coffee.

Like that KYM ?
 

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KNN, you really think I'm Mr Know-It-All ah ? :confused:

Dual-boiler means there are 2 separate boilers, one for brewing the other for steaming. PID sounds more kinky - Pre-Infusion Delay. That means if the machine is 9 bar it will not immediately use 9-bar pressure to pump the water into the coffee basket. Instead, it will use something like 5-bar pressure to "wet" the coffee powder in the basket and soak them for say 5 seconds before it starts pumping 9-bar pressure to extract the coffee.

Like that KYM ?
I think I do not need Dual boiler. I just need single boiler
 
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